whatdoyouwant
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November 11th, 2009 at 4:35:53 PM permalink
This question is directed to Michael Shackleford

I noticed your analysis of Ultimate X. I believe I have some ideas that
may give a practical solution to the task of analyzing the game.

I do not wish to share this with the general public. If, however, you
are interested in taking a look at my ideas, I would like to send
you a private email. I could not find one on your site, could
you please tell me how to send you a private message?

Jim
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November 13th, 2009 at 12:50:05 PM permalink
Jim and Micheal,

I was looking at both the Ultimate X and Super Times Pay machines and I was wondering which one you feel is the better play. I understand the pay tables matter but when I look at the Ultimate X machines you must bet 10 credits per line to activate and only 6 on the STP machine. If you constantly are getting only one pair, doesn't it seem like winning 5 while betting 10 every hand on the Ultimate X machine is a fast and easy way of parting with your funds?

I played both machines the last time I was in LV and I liked them but I think the STP machine was a better play, do you agree?

Anthony
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May 31st, 2016 at 5:00:37 PM permalink
https://imgur.com/a/EXZ6D
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May 31st, 2016 at 5:00:51 PM permalink
Sorry wrong thread guys
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May 31st, 2016 at 6:20:21 PM permalink
Quote: whatdoyouwant

I noticed your analysis of Ultimate X. I believe I have some ideas that
may give a practical solution to the task of analyzing the game.



I think he already has that figured out??
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May 31st, 2016 at 6:27:56 PM permalink
Didn't mean to resurrect this old thread I searched from my cell and this came up and I thought it was a different thread
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May 31st, 2016 at 7:52:05 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

https://imgur.com/a/EXZ6D

2F has to occasionally open his big mouth and stick at least one foot in there. I see the pic, I see the game being played, the bet per hand, the lines.
Damn, I missed something.
I need to go look closer.
I'll be back, maybe ;-)
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June 1st, 2016 at 4:30:24 PM permalink
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June 1st, 2016 at 10:22:19 PM permalink
Are you sick of Ultimate X yet?
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June 2nd, 2016 at 5:04:57 AM permalink
As long as it's profitable it's my favorite game- once something changes I'll have to stop playing and find the next game
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June 2nd, 2016 at 6:51:53 AM permalink
Hello,

I noticed you play 10 credits on each line. Is it more ev to play this at 10 credits for a chance at multipliers or is it more ev to just play 5 credits each line?
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June 2nd, 2016 at 6:54:47 AM permalink
It's more ev to play 10 credits for the purpose that I'm playing
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June 2nd, 2016 at 7:01:05 AM permalink
For what purpose if you don't mind me asking? I would assume points.
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June 2nd, 2016 at 7:12:50 AM permalink
more or less
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June 2nd, 2016 at 4:57:18 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

As long as it's profitable it's my favorite game- once something changes I'll have to stop playing and find the next game



So are you constantly at a casino where ultimate x is the only game giving a huge promo margin? That paytable isn't even 97%, so I'm confused why you're playing ultimate x over all other options. Considering how popular ultimate x is around here, casinos would be bleeding money if the game was positive after factoring in everything.
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June 2nd, 2016 at 6:25:13 PM permalink
Yes it's profitable, can't go into why on the board but I'm playing with an edge 100 percent of the time on it, and yes I am there a lot because of that
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June 2nd, 2016 at 6:30:02 PM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Yes it's profitable, can't go into why on the board but I'm playing with an edge 100 percent of the time on it, and yes I am there a lot because of that



But it has to be ultimate x and not some better playing game? That's what I don't get. And if that's the best payback game available, they have some real crappy vp.
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June 2nd, 2016 at 6:35:36 PM permalink
Yes , that it the only game at this point , I have put over 3.1 million coin in ytd
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June 2nd, 2016 at 7:10:53 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

But it has to be ultimate x and not some better playing game? That's what I don't get. And if that's the best payback game available, they have some real crappy vp.




Overall they have some incredibly awful paytables like 7-5 job and 6:5 bonus is pretty standard
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