Vegasrider
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February 26th, 2019 at 1:50:51 PM permalink
I was going to just PM Bob Dancer but maybe someone would know the answers to my questions.

Would a reverse sequential qualify under the progressive payout of a sequential machine? Technically, it is sequential. There is nothing stated on the machine about a reverse, just states sequential. There are no written rules to be found on or within the machine. In the event I hit a reverse sequential and it didn't payout the progressive, I would get the machine locked up and contact the gaming control board. Even the slot manager agreed but had no answers for the question above.

When does a sequential become playable or become an overlay if there is such a thing being its 2 million to 1 odds. The RR casino in Vegas was hit at 217k on a $5 spin. That's over 40k tines the $5 hand.

When it gets hit, at what point do you think it gets reset at? You think it starts at where a normal Royal pays out just like all progressives? How would I go about obtaining that info?
rsactuary
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February 26th, 2019 at 4:27:53 PM permalink
A sequential royal is considered to be either... AKQJT or TJQKA
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February 26th, 2019 at 4:55:51 PM permalink
TJQKA would be the reverse sequential, but still sequential. But why do some casinos offer a reversible sequential game if hitting a sequential would be in either order?
GaryJKoehler
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February 27th, 2019 at 4:00:39 AM permalink
The Wiz has a page on Sequential Royals:
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/tables/sequential-royal/
and he distinguishes between a sequential royal (only one way, 10 to Ace) and Reversible Royals (both ways).
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February 27th, 2019 at 4:09:04 AM permalink
does not answer your question directly but the definition of sequential is forming or following in a logical order or sequence. Doing it A-10 is not a logical order so technically a reverse sequential is not sequential. Now whether the game will pay out in either direction is something completely different and I do not know the answer. If I were playing and I had it in reverse I would not expect to get paid and would be thrilled if it did.
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February 27th, 2019 at 5:06:20 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

does not answer your question directly but the definition of sequential is forming or following in a logical order or sequence. Doing it A-10 is not a logical order so technically a reverse sequential is not sequential. Now whether the game will pay out in either direction is something completely different and I do not know the answer. If I were playing and I had it in reverse I would not expect to get paid and would be thrilled if it did.

I think an argument could be made for A-10 meeting the dictionary definition "sequential," but you are right -- it only matters what the game manufacturer thinks (or rather has programmed).

I would hope that either direction would qualify for the jackpot. That would potentially save the casino a big headache. Could you imagine how mad someone would be if they hit the "reverse" sequential, and it didn't qualify for the jackpot? I could see something like that going to court if it wasn't made clear on the machine the definition of "sequential."

BTW, has anyone ever waded through the help screens to see if it defines what a "sequential" is? I'll have to remember to do that next time I see one.

I did have a sequential sweat last year. I was on a quarter machine and the progressive was $27k. Got dealt Th-Jh-x-Kh-Ah, but no luck finding the Qh.
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Vegasrider
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February 27th, 2019 at 6:57:12 AM permalink
Joeman, yes I scrolled through the help screen and there is nothing listed on the rules of what constitutes an actual payout except for the home screen that lists the payouts of JJ or better.

IGT is the machine, the programmer would only have the answer but legally the way it is now, I'm thinking a reverse would be valid and I would take it to gaming if it didn't pay on the reverse.
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February 27th, 2019 at 8:39:00 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

does not answer your question directly but the definition of sequential is forming or following in a logical order or sequence. Doing it A-10 is not a logical order so technically a reverse sequential is not sequential. Now whether the game will pay out in either direction is something completely different and I do not know the answer. If I were playing and I had it in reverse I would not expect to get paid and would be thrilled if it did.





A-10 is exactly as logical as 10-A.
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February 27th, 2019 at 8:59:48 AM permalink
Some time ago, there was a bank of machines at the California with a progressive jackpot for a sequential royal. It paid either direction.
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Vegasrider
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February 27th, 2019 at 9:09:52 AM permalink
Quote: standbymyman

A-10 is exactly as logical as 10-A.



I agree. Reason why I would like to confirm is because it affects the way I play, as i may want to hold an A or T on either end

Next question is when does the sequential progressive become playable or has an overlay. As I mention in the OP, the RR sequential paid out over 40k:1 on a $5 bet. Was it overdue? If the progressive resets at $4k, then the bank of machines played out over 2 million hands to get to $217k.

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