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onenickelmiracle
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August 21st, 2018 at 7:58:09 PM permalink
I tried teaching someone the basics, they seem to be a little slow. Basically all they wanted to do was hold high cards, couldn't notice there being low pairs, four to a flush, etc. They actually couldn't even remember what the suits were, couldn't even see that a diamond was a diamond and a heart a heart. It was actually so funny to hear her answers, but they were so unintelligent, I have trouble believing this could be learned even close to quickly. Will they be able to learn slowly over the course of years rather than months, I don't know, probably. I know they are quite terrible at basic math, their answers to simple math questions is really a guessing game, they failed algebra many times.

Even if they learn, I expect many mistakes and for them to forget to hold premium dealt hands eventually.
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August 21st, 2018 at 11:27:43 PM permalink
Did they want to learn? Big question.

If so, what were they hoping to accomplish by learning? Did they want to lower the house edge, learn how to play computer perfect for their pride, or heard it's a way to make +EV?
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August 21st, 2018 at 11:45:31 PM permalink
Few people are completely unable to learn something when taught correctly. People learn differently and sometimes the problem isn't the student, or the teacher but the chemistry between them.
The only class I ever failed in HS was geometry. Had the same teacher for summer school and failed again. I originally had the same teacher a third time but I was able to talk my way into another teacher's class. This guy's techniques worked for me. I finished the year with an 87 and got a 94 on the Regents. I don't think the first guy was a bad teacher, just not a person I could learn from.
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August 22nd, 2018 at 9:34:20 AM permalink
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August 22nd, 2018 at 10:54:48 AM permalink
Sounds like someone who had never played a card game in their life, and you were trying to teach them to run before they could crawl.
onenickelmiracle
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August 22nd, 2018 at 2:33:26 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Sounds like someone who had never played a card game in their life, and you were trying to teach them to run before they could crawl.

In some ways, yes, kind of immersion. They have some learning disability, short term memory problems, etc. Everything I tell them about everything, they act like understand, then completely blow it routinely.


To answer DJ, I want them to learn and everyone else, so they're not stuck to only slot machines. I'm beginning to think the actual losses could go up if she played VP over the usual slot bets she makes, which can be pretty low. There won't be much if any EV VP around this area, but you never know what might change, or when there will be travel.
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August 22nd, 2018 at 2:39:13 PM permalink
Well, if this person has some mental disabilities, perhaps video poker is too complex a game for them to learn.

Maybe show them some baccarat? Or just some super basic craps, like pass line with odds, and nothing else.

Oh, there's also those electronic craps and roulette games, now, if you want to stick to non-slot machines.
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August 22nd, 2018 at 4:36:03 PM permalink
My ex-wife had ZERO card sense. There was no way to teach her anything. She struggled with Casino War.
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September 3rd, 2018 at 2:37:38 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Well, if this person has some mental disabilities, perhaps video poker is too complex a game for them to learn.

Maybe show them some baccarat? Or just some super basic craps, like pass line with odds, and nothing else.

Oh, there's also those electronic craps and roulette games, now, if you want to stick to non-slot machines.



Exactly. Play baccarat... it's easy, bet banker.

Even I can't learn craps. It's too complicated.

Roulette is easy and requires no strategy whatsoever. You get to choose how much variance you want, from the lowest (red/black) to the highest (single spot) and a bunch in between.

Or just play slot machines. So what if it's eighty-something percent return, at 30 cents a spin, who cares?!
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September 3rd, 2018 at 3:11:03 PM permalink
Quote: KevinAA

Even I can't learn craps. It's too complicated
?!

You got a Pass line bet, you got an odds bet, you got a come bet, you got odds, if your line bet neither wins nor loses you go into the 'bonus round'. You ignore everything in the center of the table or anything that someone is calling out. What's complicated about it?

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