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March 11th, 2018 at 6:16:09 AM permalink
I played 440 hands in 10 minutes for a pace of 2,640 hands per hour from 0:40 to 10:40 in this video:

The game is 1085(+/- a few)/9/6 Jacks or Better. I don't think I made any errors and checked each obviously borderline hand on the right side, although some of the hands on the left side have proven difficult to discern or transcribe due to the poor quality of the shot causing the threes and fives to look similar. Still, I don't remember making any error during play.

I was actually trying to measure my speed over 20 minutes but hit the Royal Flush, unexpectedly ending the challenge.

...I don't know what the proper formatting is to link or embed a youtube video here, or if it's even possible since my account is new.
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March 11th, 2018 at 6:25:13 AM permalink
Quote: NathanV

I played 440 hands in 10 minutes for a pace of 2,640 hands per hour from 0:40 to 10:40 in this video: /watch?v=hHpSjtqSXUs

The game is 1085(+/- a few)/9/6 Jacks or Better. I don't think I made any errors and checked each obviously borderline hand on the right side, although some of the hands on the left side have proven difficult to discern or transcribe due to the poor quality of the shot causing the threes and fives to look similar. Still, I don't remember making any error during play.

I was actually trying to measure my speed over 20 minutes but hit the Royal Flush, unexpectedly ending the challenge.

...I don't know what the proper formatting is to link or embed a youtube video here, or if it's even possible since my account is new.



Congrats on the RF. I think after 10 regular posts or such you will be able embed the link. Can't wait to watch.
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March 11th, 2018 at 7:28:28 AM permalink
Here we are:

Video
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 11th, 2018 at 8:55:29 AM permalink
Quote: NathanV

I played 440 hands in 10 minutes for a pace of 2,640 hands per hour from 0:40 to 10:40 in this video: /watch?v=hHpSjtqSXUs

The game is 1085(+/- a few)/9/6 Jacks or Better. I don't think I made any errors and checked each obviously borderline hand on the right side, although some of the hands on the left side have proven difficult to discern or transcribe due to the poor quality of the shot causing the threes and fives to look similar. Still, I don't remember making any error during play.

I was actually trying to measure my speed over 20 minutes but hit the Royal Flush, unexpectedly ending the challenge.

...I don't know what the proper formatting is to link or embed a youtube video here, or if it's even possible since my account is new.




I am impressed. You're not the "Piano Man", are you? No, too young. But I have heard of some "kid" who does this with FPDW. Are you him?

By the way, probably a stupid question, but what does "1085" refer to?
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March 11th, 2018 at 9:13:29 AM permalink
No

1085 coins for a Royal Flush--what the progressive was at during the play
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March 11th, 2018 at 9:22:28 AM permalink
Quote: NathanV

No

1085 coins for a Royal Flush--what the progressive was at during the play



I didn't watch with a microscope, but did you actually adjust for the royal size? I'm even more impressed.
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March 11th, 2018 at 9:31:30 AM permalink
Quote: NathanV

No

1085 coins for a Royal Flush--what the progressive was at during the play




Here is you again. You're famous now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAdcgyC233I

I think I saw another one too, I'll look at that next.
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March 11th, 2018 at 9:31:42 AM permalink
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I am impressed. You're not the "Piano Man", are you? No, too young. But I have heard of some "kid" who does this with FPDW. Are you him?

By the way, probably a stupid question, but what does "1085" refer to?


Looks like the value (divided by the $5 per hand bet) for the Royal Flush progressive; the $5432 payout at the end is 1086.4-1. ("Normal" JoB is 800.)
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March 11th, 2018 at 9:36:46 AM permalink
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I didn't watch with a microscope, but did you actually adjust for the royal size? I'm even more impressed.



I did.
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March 11th, 2018 at 6:33:40 PM permalink
I'm going to re-upload this video on a different channel and without my face visible. I'm new to player vs casino gambling and forget how it's not a world where you can openly share your successes.
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March 11th, 2018 at 6:40:15 PM permalink
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I'm going to re-upload this video on a different channel and without my face visible. I'm new to player vs casino gambling and forget how it's not a world where you can openly share your successes.




In that case, I might add that playing two machines at once, or even demonstrating proficiency on one machine, might not be a good idea either. Hopefully some others here can add to that.
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March 11th, 2018 at 9:21:24 PM permalink
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I'm going to re-upload this video on a different channel and without my face visible. I'm new to player vs casino gambling and forget how it's not a world where you can openly share your successes.

I hope it was my PM that prompted your decision. I think its the right choice.
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March 12th, 2018 at 2:48:46 AM permalink
From one Nathan to another Nathan, welcome to WOV! :D Congrats on your gambling successes! :D
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March 12th, 2018 at 9:07:58 AM permalink
Welcome to the forums - looking forward to seeing your composition play/speed, and hey, who doesn't like to see a royal hit?? Sounds very impressive =).
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March 13th, 2018 at 1:47:18 PM permalink
Here is the new video uploaded: /watch?v=h0gU2oTrwC8
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March 13th, 2018 at 2:40:39 PM permalink
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Here is the new video uploaded: /watch?v=h0gU2oTrwC8



Here you go.

Your link posted wouldn't even do anything unless someone already had the http://www.youtube.com put in.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 13th, 2018 at 2:44:30 PM permalink
NathanV,

By the way, your speed is just straight ridiculous! (Complimentary way) I could use both hands, one machine and not match what either of your machines was doing.
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March 13th, 2018 at 3:28:01 PM permalink
Nathan I mean no disrespect, but... there s always a but. How do we know that the video is not sped up. Even speeding it not o 1.2 wouldn't make it much different but would increase your hands greatly. Again no disrespect, just asking the question..
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March 13th, 2018 at 3:32:13 PM permalink
Why would he speed up the video to participate in a challenge with very little chance of succeeding because his means of entry to the challenge is a video that he sped up?

It would be like me posting a video of running a 4.4 40, and then when it comes time for me to do it live...haha, that's cute!

I think the video sounds good in the sense that I don't think the sounds are faster than they should be. I could be wrong.
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March 13th, 2018 at 3:34:36 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Nathan I mean no disrespect, but... there s always a but. How do we know that the video is not sped up. Even speeding it not o 1.2 wouldn't make it much different but would increase your hands greatly. Again no disrespect, just asking the question..



Why would he go to the trouble of faking it? It never occurred to me to ask the question. Just puzzled at the suggestion.
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:14:50 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Here you go.

Your link posted wouldn't even do anything unless someone already had the put in.



Whenever I try to post the full link, the *** part disappears. I assume it's an anti-spam measure against new accounts.

"New members are not allowed to post links until they reach 20 posts." And it says this when I tried to type youtube dot com.

If you can edit the OP to include the link that would be nice.
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:18:10 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Nathan I mean no disrespect, but... there s always a but. How do we know that the video is not sped up. Even speeding it not o 1.2 wouldn't make it much different but would increase your hands greatly. Again no disrespect, just asking the question..



I think it would make the sounds wrong.
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:22:26 PM permalink
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If you can edit the OP to include the link that would be nice.



That won't work because it would still be your post, I'm pretty sure.
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:24:59 PM permalink
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Why would he go to the trouble of faking it? It never occurred to me to ask the question. Just puzzled at the suggestion.



Why would people say they can 100 nuggets and show up to eat 22? People just do.
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:25:51 PM permalink
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I think it would make the sounds wrong.



That is very true.

Was that your full speed or could you go faster?
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:28:29 PM permalink
He's hitting deal/draw on left machine (or maybe max bet), probably thinking for a split second, "Son of a Bismark, I'm trying to play as fast as I ca.....oh, nice!"
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:34:46 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

That is very true.

Was that your full speed or could you go faster?



If I attempted this a dozen more times right now I'm sure I could get over 2700/hour, and even better if I got really lucky and got dealt only easy hands and little to no 4 or 5 card holds. You can see plenty of time wasted holding multiple cards then deselecting all of them because of stuff like high cards vs 3 to straight flush that's hard to see. I've been playing video poker for a few months and only realized playing two machines at once was something people seriously did about a week ago after reading the Wizardofodds page on the speed challenge; that video was the result after I practiced for a few days. I don't want to claim too much without producing though, and once the progressive on those machines gets +EV again I'll do some more attempts on video.
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:39:03 PM permalink
NathanV,

I'm really impressed at 15:01, you almost make the, "Wrong," play holding all four high cards, but then self-correct and keep KhJh because of the adjustment for the Progressive. That's not something most people would look up, much less know off of the tops of their heads (though you did hesitate for a second) and it was also a crazy-close decision!

Did you look at the dollars on the Progressive and divide by five already knowing where the cutoff is for that switch?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 13th, 2018 at 4:48:45 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

NathanV,

I'm really impressed at 15:01, you almost make the, "Wrong," play holding all four high cards, but then self-correct and keep KhJh because of the adjustment for the Progressive. That's not something most people would look up, much less know off of the tops of their heads (though you did hesitate for a second) and it was also a crazy-close decision!

Did you look at the dollars on the Progressive and divide by five already knowing where the cutoff is for that switch?



There was a funny thing about that hand.

KJss>AKQJx, when 'x' is not same suit and not nine @ $5100
KJss>AKQJ9, when 'x' is not same suit @ $5400

The royal was $5420.

I didn't remember how much the nine penalized and felt kind of screwed there because I knew it was borderline and wanted to play every hand right for the challenge, so I took longer than I would've. Normally I wouldn't care at all and know that playing more hands per hour is much more important than any slowdowns for penalty considerations. That was the only hand where I remember restraining myself and my hand pausing before hitting draw.

The regular KJss vs AKQJ would've been instantaneous.
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March 13th, 2018 at 5:00:50 PM permalink
I almost watch that video like a sporting event, if videos like that got broadcast on ESPN, that hold would be SportsCenter's Play of the Week.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 23rd, 2018 at 11:48:53 AM permalink
So how can I submit this to the wizardofodds dot com/games/video-poker/speed-records/ page?
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March 23rd, 2018 at 2:06:45 PM permalink
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So how can I submit this to the wizardofodds dot com/games/video-poker/speed-records/ page?



Sorry for the late arrival. I would be very interested to do an official challenge. However, I won't accept this video because I can't confirm it wasn't sped up. For it to make my record book, I have to witness it, record it, and go through every single hand to confirm accuracy. Are you up to doing that?
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March 23rd, 2018 at 2:48:02 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry for the late arrival. I would be very interested to do an official challenge. However, I won't accept this video because I can't confirm it wasn't sped up. For it to make my record book, I have to witness it, record it, and go through every single hand to confirm accuracy. Are you up to doing that?



I would be interested.
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March 23rd, 2018 at 2:52:19 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry for the late arrival. I would be very interested to do an official challenge. However, I won't accept this video because I can't confirm it wasn't sped up. For it to make my record book, I have to witness it, record it, and go through every single hand to confirm accuracy. Are you up to doing that?



Ooh. A worthy WoV Spring Fling event. No?
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March 23rd, 2018 at 4:13:15 PM permalink
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I would be interested.



Wunderbar! When would you like to do it? If you can hold off until the May 19 weekend we can make a WoV gathering over it.
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March 23rd, 2018 at 8:28:33 PM permalink
Quote: NathanV

I would be interested.




Hi Nathan. What's with the cat? I am looking on the positive side and hoping that that is just your sarcastic sense of humor or some innocent weirdness on your part. You better not have killed a cat, Nathan.
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March 24th, 2018 at 11:17:22 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Sorry for the late arrival. I would be very interested to do an official challenge. However, I won't accept this video because I can't confirm it wasn't sped up. For it to make my record book, I have to witness it, record it, and go through every single hand to confirm accuracy. Are you up to doing that?



From all the people in the background it does not appear to be sped up in any way.
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March 25th, 2018 at 3:03:07 AM permalink
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Wunderbar! When would you like to do it? If you can hold off until the May 19 weekend we can make a WoV gathering over it.



Where? I presume you mean in Las Vegas but I don't live there. I will coincidentally be visiting there starting around May 29 for the WSOP.
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March 25th, 2018 at 3:05:25 AM permalink
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Where? I presume you mean in Las Vegas but I don't live there. I will coincidentally be visiting there starting around May 29 for the WSOP.



That is fine with me. Let's resume this discussion when the date gets closer. Do you already know where in Vegas you want to play?
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March 25th, 2018 at 3:15:31 AM permalink
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That is fine with me. Let's resume this discussion when the date gets closer. Do you already know where in Vegas you want to play?



I have no idea as I've never played VP there. Optimal conditions would be slant tops of the same style as in the video with max bet and deal on the same side, max bet button not individually incrementing each credit before the deal, and of course the machines being close to each other and having buttons in perfect condition.
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March 25th, 2018 at 3:43:21 AM permalink
I'll definitely do a bit of my own scouting of the Vegas VP the first few days of the WSOP.
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March 25th, 2018 at 12:29:29 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

That is fine with me. Let's resume this discussion when the date gets closer. Do you already know where in Vegas you want to play?



I'm going to ask one more time. As you can see, NathanV avoided my question about the cat. Either it was a "joke", a very bad joke and not funny at all, or he killed a cat. Which is it? If he had just replied in the first place I would not be making a big deal out of it. If it was just a joke, I would have been done with it.

But, if he did kill a cat, I urge you to disqualify him from participating in this video poker speed challenge. At the very least, I suggest that you bring someone with you when meeting him, do not go meet him alone. Meet him in a public place. Perhaps in front of the police station.
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March 25th, 2018 at 12:32:17 PM permalink
Quote: bobbartop

I'm going to ask one more time. As you can see, NathanV avoided my question about the cat. Either it was a "joke", a very bad joke and not funny at all, or he killed a cat. Which is it? If he had just replied in the first place I would not be making a big deal out of it. If it was just a joke, I would have been done with it.

But, if he did kill a cat, I urge you to disqualify him from participating in this video poker speed challenge. At the very least, I suggest that you bring someone with you when meeting him, do not go meet him alone. Meet him in a public place. Perhaps in front of the police station.



What the f are you talking about?
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March 25th, 2018 at 1:15:27 PM permalink
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What the f are you talking about?




He just needs to answer the question. This is not funny.
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March 25th, 2018 at 1:31:03 PM permalink
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He just needs to answer the question. This is not funny.

Bob, some of us have no clue about this cat killing you talk of, can you enlighten us a bit?
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March 25th, 2018 at 2:25:45 PM permalink
There's a video on my personal youtube channel (which I had originally linked to when I first upload the video poker video but then unlinked for my own privacy after advice to do so) where I'm playing with my cat. He grabs on to my leg as I walk around my house then into an unlit part of a room and I jokingly titled it "cat... (redacted for privacy)".

No, I did not kill my pet ... (redacted for privacy )...s. I am honestly disturbed that you might think that. The title is a joke between me and the few people I intended to share the video with, and if you stalked my personal channel which I intentionally unlinked from here to find it and became outraged at it, that's your problem.

I would link the video here so you can see how ridiculous this is, but I don't want my personal youtube channel linked here, and, no, not because it contains any nefarious content. I'm starting to regret having ever posted any video of myself here or even signing up with a handle that contains my first name.
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March 25th, 2018 at 2:41:32 PM permalink
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No, I did not kill ... (redacted)



That's all you had to say. I'm done with this.
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March 25th, 2018 at 2:44:42 PM permalink
Now that we know the name of the video, we can all find it and the channel. That's why I didn't quote the post... Maybe Nathan wishes to edit the post?

Anyway, IMHO it was a huge overreaction to question you about that video.

I hope you stick around here Nathan. Clearly you have skills and this board needs that. There are way too many people here that have self appointed themselves as the internet police. I recommend ignoring them.
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March 25th, 2018 at 2:55:09 PM permalink
NathanV,

I redacted the key words in your post to keep you private channel private.

Thanks for clarifying.

We're a little short on humor these days. I hope you'll stick around anyway.
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March 25th, 2018 at 2:59:01 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

Now that we know the name of the video, we can all find it and the channel. That's why I didn't quote the post... Maybe Nathan wishes to edit the post?

Anyway, IMHO it was a huge overreaction to question you about that video.

I hope you stick around here Nathan. Clearly you have skills and this board needs that. There are way too many people here that have self appointed themselves as the internet police. I recommend ignoring them.




Oh really? I have nothing to apologize about. How dare you call me an "internet police". Is my concern for animals something to be ashamed about? I said I was done, all is well, so why don't you let it drop. I will if you will.

And it's interesting that you took "a side" on this when you don't know me, and you don't know him. And I will self-appoint myself a policeman and stick my nose in it any damn time I feel like it, if it concerns a cat. Just drop it.
'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded.
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