100xOdds
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August 15th, 2016 at 9:20:08 AM permalink
taphouse, ultimate X, stp/dstp, etc

im assuming the return takes into account all the times you wiff when you get a multipler?
like this one:


also, for dstp, how much EV does a 20x dealt royal add to the return?
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tringlomane
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August 15th, 2016 at 9:32:21 AM permalink
Ugh. But at least you can find opportunities like that.

1) of course it does
2) 0.117%
sabre
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August 15th, 2016 at 11:30:51 AM permalink
I hate having to hold 3 to a straight with a deuce, even though it's the right play in many (most?) DW variants.
tringlomane
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August 15th, 2016 at 12:09:41 PM permalink
Quote: sabre

I hate having to hold 3 to a straight with a deuce, even though it's the right play in many (most?) DW variants.



When deuces only pay 200 for 1, I think this is correct except for full pay deuces.

I don't feel like the hold comes up too often though.
GWAE
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August 15th, 2016 at 5:03:20 PM permalink
Since you know a vp paytable when playing 5 credits and you have to pay 10 credits for ux. I assume the average multiplier is 2x. So whenever you have more than 2x on a game you are playing at an advantage.

So in your case with 12x and 5 credits you are playing at approx 96%x12 advantage. Which obviously is huge. So if you do the right play you your ev is huge. If you just hold the 2 then your ev is still huge. So would you like a huge advantage with more variance or a "huger" advantage with less variance.

Hell with 12x you could probably discard all and still be at a large EV.
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onenickelmiracle
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August 15th, 2016 at 5:29:14 PM permalink
If you're paying for the multiplier there really isn't ev, because although you're getting more for your money, you're still not gaining. I think it is universal the extra credits for max bet raise the overall return.
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onenickelmiracle
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August 15th, 2016 at 5:30:58 PM permalink
As far as 20x royal, wake up and stop dreaming.
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Ibeatyouraces
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August 15th, 2016 at 5:59:59 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

As far as 20x royal, wake up and stop dreaming.


I've seen it once. Lady playing 2 hands of triple play get it for $40,000.
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August 15th, 2016 at 6:14:04 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I've seen it once. Lady playing 2 hands of triple play get it for $40,000.



Is a dealt an automatic 20x or does it have to be a dealt on a hand that had a multiplier?
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August 15th, 2016 at 6:20:50 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Is a dealt an automatic 20x or does it have to be a dealt on a hand that had a multiplier?


Has to have a deal multiplier. It's supposed to automatically be 20x also.
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