2016 Diamond in a Day
July 18th, 2016 at 12:01:26 PM
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I am hoping for an update on the possibility of making Diamond in a Day with Total Rewards in 2016. I also need mathematical advice on how much bankroll I need to bring based on the current requirements. I plan on playing full pay JoB on $1 machines ($5 per hand) in Atlantic City, at Caesars if possible. I am willing to put in long hours up to the full day if necessary.
Is this still possible and how much do I need to bring? Thanks!
Is this still possible and how much do I need to bring? Thanks!
July 18th, 2016 at 12:10:51 PM
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Careful, I think most or all of the full pay machines in AC only reward 1TC per $20 coin in.
It's probably less -EV to do 8/6 or 9/5 that rewards $10/coin in.
It's probably less -EV to do 8/6 or 9/5 that rewards $10/coin in.
July 18th, 2016 at 5:14:17 PM
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Feel free to double-check my math, but I think you would have to player at a higher denomination:Quote: JerseyGirlI am hoping for an update on the possibility of making Diamond in a Day with Total Rewards in 2016..... I plan on playing full pay JoB on $1 machines ($5 per hand) in Atlantic City, at Caesars if possible. I am willing to put in long hours up to the full day if necessary.
5000 = number of Tier Credits needed in One Day to get the 10,000 Tier Credit Bonus
$ 20 = coin-in to earn 1 Tier Credit per VPFree2.com for 9/6 JoB in Atlantic City
$ 100,000 = coin-in required
20,000 hands at $ 5 per hand
500 hands/hr is one hand every 7.2 seconds
40 hours = time required to earn 5000 Tier Credits in A/C playing 9/6 JoB, $1 denom x 5
$ 500 = Expected Loss IF you were played very accurately AND were close to the long term EV
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
July 20th, 2016 at 8:56:39 PM
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What, you won't give her the location of your secret slot? ;)
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
July 21st, 2016 at 7:07:52 AM
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There's a bunch of threads about this exact same topic. Simply search the forums for Diamond In A Day.
More/Less your EV is about -$300 (well -$460 in your case of $100k coin in), but your 2SD is about +/- $2500. So you need to bring about $2500 to be 2SD (95%) confident you won't bust.
Another option is to bump up to $2 single line, or $10/pull. That will cut the hours in half.
How fast do you play? 500/hour is a good assumption for someone not that proficient... but anyone that plays a lot should be able to get 800hph easily. That's how you can figure your time. I ended up doing $1 denom last year and did 2 days of 2500 + 5000.
More/Less your EV is about -$300 (well -$460 in your case of $100k coin in), but your 2SD is about +/- $2500. So you need to bring about $2500 to be 2SD (95%) confident you won't bust.
Another option is to bump up to $2 single line, or $10/pull. That will cut the hours in half.
How fast do you play? 500/hour is a good assumption for someone not that proficient... but anyone that plays a lot should be able to get 800hph easily. That's how you can figure your time. I ended up doing $1 denom last year and did 2 days of 2500 + 5000.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
July 21st, 2016 at 7:27:56 AM
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I thought two days of 2500 + 5000 was the most efficient way now, with the new bonus scheme. Is there a more efficient way for only one day (and the very impatient)?
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
July 21st, 2016 at 7:35:52 AM
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Quote: MathExtremistI thought two days of 2500 + 5000 was the most efficient way now, with the new bonus scheme. Is there a more efficient way for only one day (and the very impatient)?
I think people do 1 day of 5000TC for a higher ADT. Not sure how different it would be though.
July 21st, 2016 at 7:52:56 AM
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Ahh, got it. I thought the limit was 5000 bonus TC in a day once you hit 2500 earned TC, but the Caesars website says otherwise:
https://www.totalrewards.com/content/cet-tr/en/earn-and-redeem/with-total-rewards.html
https://www.totalrewards.com/content/cet-tr/en/earn-and-redeem/with-total-rewards.html
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
July 21st, 2016 at 9:34:55 AM
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Quote: RomesThere's a bunch of threads about this exact same topic. Simply search the forums for Diamond In A Day.
More/Less your EV is about -$300 (well -$460 in your case of $100k coin in), but your 2SD is about +/- $2500. So you need to bring about $2500 to be 2SD (95%) confident you won't bust.
Another option is to bump up to $2 single line, or $10/pull. That will cut the hours in half.
My DiaD:
I did $2 single line 9/6 Job when it was still $10 per 1tc.
5k tc in one sitting which got me 10k bonus tc = 15k tc.
$50k coin-in, and I ended up +$1000.
How much +SD was I if I didn't hit a Royal? (and I didn't hit one)
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
July 21st, 2016 at 11:32:32 AM
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Anyone know how the Tropicana VP tier credits work? I looked everywhere and saw 1 point for 1$ but obviously that can't be right.
July 21st, 2016 at 2:51:41 PM
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Too soon, TeddyS, too soon.Quote: teddysWhat, you won't give her the location of your secret slot? ;)
Now I would consider selling that information, let's see, 10 people, $ 100 each.....
Are there any of those left at any denom ?Quote: 100xOddsMy DiaD:
I did $2 single line 9/6 Job when it was still $10 per 1tc.
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
July 22nd, 2016 at 7:52:27 AM
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Wouldn't your EV be a lot lower because if you were to hit a royal or even a straight flush a a high denomination you would be taxed heavily on your jackpot?
What goes around always comes back around
July 22nd, 2016 at 11:08:28 AM
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Quote: CasinoKillerWouldn't your EV be a lot lower because if you were to hit a royal or even a straight flush a a high denomination you would be taxed heavily on your jackpot?
the only hand you get a w-2g for @ $2 denom for 9/6 JoB is a Royal
Last edited by: 100xOdds on Jul 22, 2016
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
