Triple Play JoB VP- Royal Flush Meter Contribution
1. When I'm the only player, is this a ~100.54% game (ignoring comps, mailers, cashback)?
2. When 3 other players play at the same speed as me, is the return still the same? The meter now moves 4 times as fast, but 4 people are chasing the progressive Royal Flushes.
3. If there is 1 ploppy playing 4 credits/hand (short-coin), 12 credits total, at the same speed as me, can I include his 1% meter contribution in my return, since he cannot hit the 5 credit/hand progressive in any of the three hands?
The fact that the contribution is distributed over 3 hands is a huge disadvantage. You basically need a dealt royal to "collect" the entire cashback amount, which happens 1 in 650K deals, or 1 in 1.95M hands.
The ploppy would definitely help and would turn the game +EV.
Quote: phendricksA local casino offers a bank of quarter triple-play 9/6 Jacks of Better (99.54%) with a clocked 1% Royal Flush meter rise ($375.00 coin-in brings up the Royal Flush payout on each hand A/B/C by $1.25).
1. When I'm the only player, is this a ~100.54% game (ignoring comps, mailers, cashback)?
2. When 3 other players play at the same speed as me, is the return still the same? The meter now moves 4 times as fast, but 4 people are chasing the progressive Royal Flushes.
3. If there is 1 ploppy playing 4 credits/hand (short-coin), 12 credits total, at the same speed as me, can I include his 1% meter contribution in my return, since he cannot hit the 5 credit/hand progressive in any of the three hands?
1. Yes
2. Yes. Well - how fast they play doesn't matter, their RF cycle vs your RF cycle is what matters. Ie: imagine other people might be playing a super-aggressive Royal-only strategy (where you ONLY go for royals). Even though their overall return sucks, that doesn't matter to you. If they expect to hit a royal every 20k hands and you expect one every 40k hands, then you suffer. However, this is rarely the case, I imagine.
3. If there are 4 players max-betting and 1 player short-coining, I think you would have to split up the 1 player's action 4 ways, so each player gets an extra 0.25% meter based on the short-coiners action.
Assuming everyone started and stopped at the same time you should be able to count the entire meter move. The problem is you can only play so long and eventually you have to walk off. That sucks because you abandon some your contribution. As everyone pushes up the meter it attracts more people who suck off your previous contribution therefore affecting the 1%.Quote: phendricksA local casino offers a bank of quarter triple-play 9/6 Jacks of Better (99.54%) with a clocked 1% Royal Flush meter rise ($375.00 coin-in brings up the Royal Flush payout on each hand A/B/C by $1.25).
1. When I'm the only player, is this a ~100.54% game (ignoring comps, mailers, cashback)?
2. When 3 other players play at the same speed as me, is the return still the same? The meter now moves 4 times as fast, but 4 people are chasing the progressive Royal Flushes.
3. If there is 1 ploppy playing 4 credits/hand (short-coin), 12 credits total, at the same speed as me, can I include his 1% meter contribution in my return, since he cannot hit the 5 credit/hand progressive in any of the three hands?
You can make up for that by being the one who jumps in once it get some meat on it.
Either way a 9/6 with a 1% meter is fairly strong nowadays as far as progressives go. especially if there's mail and other goodies.
Quote: chaunceyb3, which happens 1 in 650K deals, or 1 in 1.95M hands.
The 1.95M hands concept is a bit misleading.
RS, You should play 4 coins, it's 4 of a kind lucky, everyone knows the casino doesn't give Royals easily. ☺Quote: RS1. Yes
2. Yes. Well - how fast they play doesn't matter, their RF cycle vs your RF cycle is what matters. Ie: imagine other people might be playing a super-aggressive Royal-only strategy (where you ONLY go for royals). Even though their overall return sucks, that doesn't matter to you. If they expect to hit a royal every 20k hands and you expect one every 40k hands, then you suffer. However, this is rarely the case, I imagine.
3. If there are 4 players max-betting and 1 player short-coining, I think you would have to split up the 1 player's action 4 ways, so each player gets an extra 0.25% meter based on the short-coiners action.
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I would assume this gets up to $1500 regularly ?
9/6 with a 1% meter is fairly rare. It's great for someone just wanting to have a +EV and low risk meanwhile generating comps. Any drawings, hot seat or whatever promotions are just gravy.
Assuming you come in at a low number you can always play a bit slower and as time goes on and the meter rises just speed up your play.
I'm not saying you SHOULD do this because it's always plus EV. I'm just saying if you want a better percent with the bulk of your play.
