coilman
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June 29th, 2015 at 9:58:12 PM permalink
They are adding 6 new SUPER TIMES PAYS machines at Caesars Windsor.....so that means the pay tables will suck

Was watching the guy program the percentages tonight on all the $1 games....all of them I watched were either 96 or 97% pay tables per the selections he was entering

Long live caesars great video poker pay tables
tringlomane
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June 29th, 2015 at 10:42:15 PM permalink
Unfortunate, but definitely not surprising. It's not uncommon for CET to use the lowest possible setting for these machines at nickel denominations. IGT won't let you offer 6/5 DDB on STP or Ultimate X games for example. Caesars probably hates that.
coilman
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June 29th, 2015 at 10:52:30 PM permalink
Just before I was watching this I noticed the techies and a SUIT testing out another poker machine that was already IN SERVICE.....well it was till after they had their computer and two screens attached to the inside guts pulling up the data....not sure why but the machine was put OUT OF SERVICE and a card placed on it
again on a 50cent dollar machine

Will look at the $1 progressive next time I go in there people always playing it when it gets up to $4300-4500 even with the really bad tables on all the games offered 6/5 on those is not out of the question thats for sure
RS
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June 30th, 2015 at 2:36:46 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

Was watching the guy program the percentages tonight on all the $1 games....all of them I watched were either 96 or 97% pay tables per the selections he was entering



Can you go into more detail as to what you saw and what he was entering? In other words, was it like a list of paytables and each one had a % next to it? Or what'd the format look like when he was programming it?
Ibeatyouraces
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June 30th, 2015 at 2:42:33 AM permalink
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Quote: coilman

Was watching the guy program the percentages tonight on all the $1 games....all of them I watched were either 96 or 97% pay tables per the selections he was entering



Can you go into more detail as to what you saw and what he was entering? In other words, was it like a list of paytables and each one had a % next to it? Or what'd the format look like when he was programming it?


Each game has a list of % paybacks shown to them. They click on the appropriate box and that pay table is what's loaded for that type of game.
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coilman
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June 30th, 2015 at 5:35:03 AM permalink
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Quote: coilman

Was watching the guy program the percentages tonight on all the $1 games....all of them I watched were either 96 or 97% pay tables per the selections he was entering



Can you go into more detail as to what you saw and what he was entering? In other words, was it like a list of paytables and each one had a % next to it? Or what'd the format look like when he was programming it?


Each game has a list of % paybacks shown to them. They click on the appropriate box and that pay table is what's loaded for that type of game.



He was picking which game he wanted to check/ set the odds on. Let's say Deuces Wild Three lines.... up would pop a list of all the different PAYBACKS on the bottom left side of the screen.... he would check his clipboard and select the payback which is displayed in order from highest to lowest that matched his list.... each and every one he selected was either the 96 or 97% . I was surprised at just how many different game were listed ... seeing how its a 3,5 or 10 play machine each one required its own setting.

Machines are located outside the HIGH LIMIT area right next to the new electronic roulette that was installed in the past week also
tringlomane
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June 30th, 2015 at 9:24:26 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

Just before I was watching this I noticed the techies and a SUIT testing out another poker machine that was already IN SERVICE.....well it was till after they had their computer and two screens attached to the inside guts pulling up the data....not sure why but the machine was put OUT OF SERVICE and a card placed on it
again on a 50cent dollar machine

Will look at the $1 progressive next time I go in there people always playing it when it gets up to $4300-4500 even with the really bad tables on all the games offered 6/5 on those is not out of the question thats for sure



Game Kings can offer 6/5 DDB, one of my local casinos does at the bar with a progressive that barely gets above $1050 at quarters (shameful). But if the machine is a super times pay machine or an ultimate x machine, the machine is not allowed to offer 6/5 DDB; IGT didn't allow that to be a programmable option on those machines. IGTis actually protecting the player from casinos' greed!

They take it even a step further with the newer "Hot Roll Poker". The worst paytables they can offer are all above 96% with some games above 97%. 8/5 DDB (96.79%) and 8/5 JoB (97.3%) are the worst available for that game. The worst game they can offer overall is 9/6/4 Double Bonus at 96.38%.
Ibeatyouraces
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June 30th, 2015 at 11:02:27 AM permalink
Quote: coilman

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Quote: RS

Quote: coilman

Was watching the guy program the percentages tonight on all the $1 games....all of them I watched were either 96 or 97% pay tables per the selections he was entering



Can you go into more detail as to what you saw and what he was entering? In other words, was it like a list of paytables and each one had a % next to it? Or what'd the format look like when he was programming it?


Each game has a list of % paybacks shown to them. They click on the appropriate box and that pay table is what's loaded for that type of game.



He was picking which game he wanted to check/ set the odds on. Let's say Deuces Wild Three lines.... up would pop a list of all the different PAYBACKS on the bottom left side of the screen.... he would check his clipboard and select the payback which is displayed in order from highest to lowest that matched his list.... each and every one he selected was either the 96 or 97% . I was surprised at just how many different game were listed ... seeing how its a 3,5 or 10 play machine each one required its own setting.

Machines are located outside the HIGH LIMIT area right next to the new electronic roulette that was installed in the past week also


I watched them lower all the paybacks a Motorcity last year.
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champ724
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July 3rd, 2015 at 12:53:22 PM permalink
so how can anyone say video poker has skill besides the obvious plays of holding winners or drawing to winning hands? on youtube the lady made a video trying to sell a book on how to beat video poker and went as far as saying the rng is a real deck of cards and the probability of winning a hand is really the true odds like a real deck of cards. everything goes by the payback % you can play like a complete idiot and win.
Ibeatyouraces
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July 3rd, 2015 at 12:56:43 PM permalink
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...you can play like a complete idiot and win.


But most likely, you'll lose faster.
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