Stunkyouki
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May 15th, 2015 at 9:39:09 PM permalink
Hi I'm new here and been searching but had no luck with a pay out table for 500-50-15-6-5-4-3-2-1 it's on a pog machine I'm in Hawaii and this is the only way we gamble here..there are pog machines in liquor stores..any help would be nice..if the pic is there it's on $5 bet


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May 15th, 2015 at 9:54:38 PM permalink
Quote: Stunkyouki

Hi I'm new here and been searching but had no luck with a pay out table for 500-50-15-6-5-4-3-2-1 it's on a pog machine I'm in Hawaii and this is the only way we gamble here..there are pog machines in liquor stores..any help would be nice..if the pic is there it's on $5 bet


[img]http://s23.postimg.org/ehc89op2f/image.jpg[/img]





I think this is what you're asking for, anyway...from the wizard's video poker calculator

I put in the values from the picture.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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May 15th, 2015 at 9:58:49 PM permalink
That's a 91% return machine. Meaning a 9% house edge. If possible, STAY AWAY!
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May 15th, 2015 at 10:00:14 PM permalink
Pretty rough, but probably not unexpected in a state that doesn't even have a lottery.
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May 15th, 2015 at 10:22:02 PM permalink
Or any legal gambling whatsoever. You know the game you're playing is illegal, right?
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May 17th, 2015 at 5:41:16 AM permalink
Hi Sry been busy at work..so should I play a different game there's spin jack, black jack gold, shamrock 7 I will take pic next time I go there....yes it's illegal in Hawaii..these machines let you double up your win..from 5-10-20-40-80-160 depends on the hand you win..lmk if I should be playing any other games on pot-o-gold,these are the only machines we got in Hawaii thanks 😄😄😉
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May 17th, 2015 at 5:45:30 AM permalink
There keno, triple 7's too ill take a pic tho just wanna know wat game Will pay out more
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May 17th, 2015 at 5:59:15 AM permalink
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There keno, triple 7's too ill take a pic tho just wanna know wat game Will pay out more

I assume they are rigged and it doesn't matter what you play.

Why do you feel the need to play them? Do feel you have an advantage of some kind? If not I suggest finding a trustworthy online site(probably far better odds). Hawaii might be tough to find a US site that accepts Hawaiian players.
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May 17th, 2015 at 3:48:34 PM permalink
People do win on these machines because of the double ups..the most I seen someone cash out was 12k playing jacks..I'm going with my friends n I'll take some pics but this is the only way to gamble in Hawaii...there's fishing games too here like ocean king,fish hunter, etc..do you guys have a form about these machines as well?
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May 17th, 2015 at 3:51:17 PM permalink
Do anyone no a legit n trustworthy online site
Any help
Thanks in advance
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May 17th, 2015 at 3:55:34 PM permalink
That's interesting I've never heard of machines in Hawaii, only cockfighting. Closest I've seen to gambling when living there were poker games here and there but they weren't too big.
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May 17th, 2015 at 4:11:40 PM permalink
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That's interesting I've never heard of machines in Hawaii, only cockfighting. Closest I've seen to gambling when living there were poker games here and there but they weren't too big.



I lived there from 2011 to 2013. On the Big Island, they had (illegal) cockfighting, pit bull fighting, and illicit poker games that I know of. Nobody, even the private clubs that had that other stuff, had machines or house-dealt games. But I guess it could have been there. However, Hawaii is far and away the most thorough and particular state about inspecting and banning anything illegal. So it would be pretty tough to get any gambling machines into the state without their cooperation.
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May 17th, 2015 at 5:10:35 PM permalink
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Here are the games
Stunkyouki
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May 17th, 2015 at 5:12:49 PM permalink
It illegal in Hawaii but cops don't really care here!!!
It in like mom n pops stores,some bars have it too some one won 6k today
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May 17th, 2015 at 5:40:11 PM permalink
I have one of these machines of that exact era. Does the "Black Gold 21" pay 3-2 on blackjack? If so, that is the game you should be playing. Some pay substantially overpay on blackjack and only pay +150 on other wins. Don't play that if that is the case.

Keep in mind that there are aftermarket chips for these machines that can make them play like pull tabs. In the end, I don't suppose that really matters.

That Shamrock paytable is awful, but it is probably among the better games on it if you gave that table posted earlier.
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May 17th, 2015 at 6:13:25 PM permalink
I'm not to sure about the payout for the gold black jack I think it's 1-2 half-5 so if ur betting $1 the pay out will be..
$1 tie
$2.50 win
$5 black jack
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May 17th, 2015 at 6:15:20 PM permalink
There a triple 7's game on the pog machine it 80cent to cover all lines if you hit the triples 7's with 80cents you'll get back $1000
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May 17th, 2015 at 6:25:29 PM permalink
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I'm not to sure about the payout for the gold black jack I think it's 1-2 half-5 so if ur betting $1 the pay out will be..
$1 tie
$2.50 win
$5 black jack



Probably $1.50 for the tie and $5 for blackjack. The $5 payout is the worst on there. Its edge is at least 8% iirc. There is a 3-2 blackjack game in the settings with S17 D9-11 and hit split aces.
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May 17th, 2015 at 6:57:29 PM permalink
So every card game is rigged on the pot o gold machine?

Will I be better off playing triple 7's and keno..Sry so many question
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May 17th, 2015 at 7:45:05 PM permalink
The title of the thread reminded me of this

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May 18th, 2015 at 12:03:18 AM permalink
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So every card game is rigged on the pot o gold machine?

Will I be better off playing triple 7's and keno..Sry so many question



They don't leave the manufacturer rigged. There were aftermarket boards for that version floating around AL, GA, SC and NC last decade that would lower the variance of the owner of the machines by making the games play more like pull tabs. I imagine this is why the games aren't in any casinos regulated by a state gaming commission. I've seen a few on tribal land before.

The one in my house has a real board in it and it is the exact version you have. I will turn the device on and show you the theo payouts if you post the payouts. There are multiple paytables for each game. It looks like yours is set on the lowest payouts across the board.
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May 18th, 2015 at 12:16:57 AM permalink
Ok thanks a lot if you can do that for me....do you think you will be able to figure out wat game that will be the most profitable game
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May 18th, 2015 at 2:03:35 AM permalink
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Ok thanks a lot if you can do that for me....do you think you will be able to figure out wat game that will be the most profitable game



I'll use the definition "best of the worst games".

I need to know what payouts you have on the game though. How many coins for the progressive and the percent that goes towards the meter would also be helpful, if applicable. You can set the progressives to be on 4+ coins and up to 10% can go towards the meter as long as the game doesn't go over 98.5%.
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May 19th, 2015 at 3:12:21 AM permalink
I don't own it but what would u like to take a pic of
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May 31st, 2015 at 11:03:24 PM permalink
if you can bet $5 on shamrocks theres a way to beat the machine. we had these a couple years before casino's came and they r beatable. I forget the exact sequence but if you can bet $5 let me know and i'll ask around see if anyone remembers.
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July 3rd, 2016 at 9:36:49 PM permalink
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I lived there from 2011 to 2013. On the Big Island, they had (illegal) cockfighting, pit bull fighting,



I know this is an old thread but somehow I just found it, linked from 2+2. I saw this and my hair stood up. Anyone involved in either "sport", especially dog fighting, really should spend the rest of their life in prison. With a cellmate named Tiny. And if that doesn't stop it, then the gas chamber would be suitable. That's my 2-cents, I don't know why I even had to add it. But how can a civilized government not crack down and completely eliminate something like dog fighting?
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