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February 11th, 2015 at 4:25:07 AM permalink
On the WOO page for Super Times Pay, it says the standard deviation increases by about 51%. To find the variance, would I just figure out the variance of n-play lines, find the square root of that (std Dev), add 51% to it (multiply it by 1.51), square it, and now have the variance for n-play w/ STP?


What about Double STP? Naturally, if STP is 51% more, then seems like DSTP would be about 100% more. But I don't want to make any assumptions.
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February 11th, 2015 at 4:46:40 AM permalink
I thought there was a special feature of DSTP that raised the variance even more.

If a deal multiplier is awarded, and you're dealt a royal, it pays at 20x. (80000 coins per hand)

Of course, dealt royals aren't particularly common.
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February 11th, 2015 at 4:58:39 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

I thought there was a special feature of DSTP that raised the variance even more.

If a deal multiplier is awarded, and you're dealt a royal, it pays at 20x. (80000 coins per hand)

Of course, dealt royals aren't particularly common.



Yes, this is true.

And come to think of it, I think it'd be proper to multiply it by 3.25 instead of 2. Since you'd really be doing 1.5*1.5=3.25. That is, of course, if that can even be done.

If anything, I think the increase from STP to DSTP is less than that of regular to STP, since multipliers on DSTP are more common and more dispersed than STP.
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February 11th, 2015 at 6:11:19 AM permalink
The variance of DSTP 9/6 Jacks or Better is about 2.52 times that of standard 9/6 Jacks or Better.

The now mobile-friendly video poker calculator can calculate the variance of STP and DSTP games.
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February 11th, 2015 at 6:56:40 AM permalink
Considering I don't like high variance generally, it really doesn't make sense why this is my favorite game. I definitely try to avoid playing DDB though, that's definitely a rollercoaster.

And nice work on updating the calculator JB!
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February 11th, 2015 at 6:56:06 PM permalink
Quote: JB

The variance of DSTP 9/6 Jacks or Better is about 2.52 times that of standard 9/6 Jacks or Better.

The now mobile-friendly video poker calculator can calculate the variance of STP and DSTP games.



Awesome. Now how do I take into account for multi-line? Do I find the ratio from 9/6 DSTP to 9/6 (which is 2.52:1), find the variance of n-play (say 10 lines at 37), then do 2.52*37 to get total variance of 10-play 9/6 JoB DSTP?

Nice calculator BTW. Any plans on doing that with a strategy generator on it?
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February 11th, 2015 at 8:01:45 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Quote: JB

The variance of DSTP 9/6 Jacks or Better is about 2.52 times that of standard 9/6 Jacks or Better.

The now mobile-friendly video poker calculator can calculate the variance of STP and DSTP games.



Awesome. Now how do I take into account for multi-line? Do I find the ratio from 9/6 DSTP to 9/6 (which is 2.52:1), find the variance of n-play (say 10 lines at 37), then do 2.52*37 to get total variance of 10-play 9/6 JoB DSTP?

Nice calculator BTW. Any plans on doing that with a strategy generator on it?



The strategy generator is already mobile friendly.

Unfortunately multi-line variance is much more complicated than that. :(
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February 11th, 2015 at 8:17:58 PM permalink
There's a page on wizard of odds with multi-line variance up to 100 lines, the increase/decrease per line variance is fairly linear. Not sure if it applies exactly to STP, haven't looked at it in a long time.
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February 12th, 2015 at 7:37:02 AM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

There's a page on wizard of odds with multi-line variance up to 100 lines, the increase/decrease per line variance is fairly linear. Not sure if it applies exactly to STP, haven't looked at it in a long time.



Yeah, I'm not sure how that affects multiline variance exactly either. Since the multiplier is always awarded to all lines, that probably makes things worse in the variance department.

JB...help!
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February 12th, 2015 at 8:21:58 AM permalink
I'm thinking it would be added/multiplied to the DRAW variance, since the DRAW effects all lines.

But yes, JB HELP!!!
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July 22nd, 2016 at 11:42:13 AM permalink
Quote: JB

The variance of DSTP 9/6 Jacks or Better is about 2.52 times that of standard 9/6 Jacks or Better.

The now mobile-friendly video poker calculator can calculate the variance of STP and DSTP games.



variance on normal JoB = 20
dstp JoB would be 50? (worse than ddb!)

how much higher for triple line dstp JoB?

just see how much of a wild ride i'll be in when I visit Vegas next month where $1 3play dstp (9/5 JoB) is the fastest tier credit machine. (98.95% @ planet Hollywood)
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July 22nd, 2016 at 11:43:42 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

I thought there was a special feature of DSTP that raised the variance even more.

If a deal multiplier is awarded, and you're dealt a royal, it pays at 20x. (80000 coins per hand)

Of course, dealt royals aren't particularly common.



included in the dstp return is the dealt Royal with auto 20x multiplier?
how much does that add to it?
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