Greasyjohn
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November 18th, 2014 at 6:02:57 PM permalink
The last Royal I got was on a quarter 8/5 BP game at the Casino Royale bar. $1,000 in credit was applied to my machine. Some stores hand pay on royals of $1,000 I would think. Are there chains that hand pay and chains that don't? Do any casinos hand pay for amounts less than $1,000? Or is it at each casino's discretion? (I think the bar at Casino Royale is now all 7/5 on BP now.)
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November 18th, 2014 at 10:09:57 PM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

The last Royal I got was on a quarter 8/5 BP game at the Casino Royale bar. $1,000 in credit was applied to my machine. Some stores hand pay on royals of $1,000 I would think. Are there chains that hand pay and chains that don't? Do any casinos hand pay for amounts less than $1,000? Or is it at each casino's discretion? (I think the bar at Casino Royale is now all 7/5 on BP now.)

its the casinos discretion. A few places have the same game side by side where one locks up on .25 1000 coins. The other one is set to lock up at 4000 coins. I don't believe there's any thought that was put into this, I think someone made a mistake and mixed up dollar amount VS .25. It's an easy fix, however it has been like that for years.
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November 18th, 2014 at 11:02:33 PM permalink
Some stores, like in Primm area, lock up on $500 wins or something funky. Maybe I'm thinking of a different area, but yeah. Only reasons why I'd think a store would do that are either 1) By error / accident, 2) to generate more tips for slot attendants (doubtful), or 3) to "follow the money" for lowroll joints (big player and needs a host....or a cheater and needs to be looked into....or just sweating the $$).
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November 19th, 2014 at 5:26:24 AM permalink
It just depends on the casino. When I really liked Seneca Niagara, they hand paid any win over $250 or 1000 credits. I think they changed to reduce labor and less noticeably reduce paybacks since people would notice less hand pays consistently occurring.
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Greasyjohn
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November 19th, 2014 at 6:01:15 AM permalink
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think they changed to reduce labor and less noticeably reduce paybacks since people would notice less hand pays consistently occurring.



What is paybacks? Tipping?
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November 19th, 2014 at 6:06:58 AM permalink
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What is paybacks? Tipping?

Payback percentage of the slot machines.
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November 19th, 2014 at 6:21:03 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

Do any casinos hand pay for amounts less than $1,000? Or is it at each casino's discretion?



Out here in the hinterlands, I normally see $1200. There's tax papers involved at that point.

Back before the days of TITO*, there was a valid reason to handpay on lower amounts - that size payout would empty the coin hopper. It's far easier to just lock up the machine and have an attendant come around and hand out paper money (also quicker - dispensing 10 pounds of quarters ($200), one at a time... probably takes just shy of 10 minutes - time that you can't be losing money). I can believe that some older machines might not have been updated when converted from coin to TITO.

As for "payback", if someone hands you a stack of money from a win, you may be less likely to keep playing it trying for another win vs if credits are just added to your machine.



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Greasyjohn
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November 19th, 2014 at 1:07:04 PM permalink
Thanks for all the replies. If you cash out of a VP machine for say $1,300 there is no W-2G involved as long as no one play paid in excess of $1,199 right?
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November 19th, 2014 at 1:09:13 PM permalink
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Thanks for all the replies. If you cash out of a VP machine for say $1,300 there is no W-2G involved as long as no one play paid in excess of $1,199 right?



correct
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November 19th, 2014 at 3:20:40 PM permalink
I would be really annoyed with hand pays under the $1200 tax limit. Seems like an excuse for a person to stick their hand out wanting a tip when it's unnecessary.

Do they come with W2G's as well, or just the hand pay? I try not to generate WG2's unnecessarily. Just today my partner hit a straight flush at a $5 machine generating a hand pay and WG2, while he was SUPPOSSED to be playing free play through at $1, which would only generate handpay/WG2 when hitting a Royal. I was furious. He's about to get his ass fired. Lol

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