Indication of randomness

The jurisdiction I reside in has no legal regulations about VP randomness. Machines with 12 games (4 slots + 8 VP games) are widespread here. I have analyzed some of the VP games and found some of them to be slightly positive (all this apply if the games are random). I played a little the game with the highest payout in a local casino. Then I returned in the same joint after 3 days. I started playing the game again and found the odds for 4 of a kind lessened. Could this change in odds be a good indication the game is random?

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The jurisdiction I reside in has no legal regulations about VP randomness. Machines with 12 games (4 slots + 8 VP games) are widespread here. I have analyzed some of the VP games and found some of them to be slightly positive (all this apply if the games are random). I played a little the game with the highest payout in a local casino. Then I returned in the same joint after 3 days. I started playing the game again and found the odds for 4 of a kind lessened. Could this change in odds be a good indication the game is random?

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If the game is not random then how can you analyze it? Unless you know the algorithm that they are using I think you are out of luck.

The fact they did lower the paytable is likely a good sign, but not complete proof either.

But some tests to rule out some forms of predetermination would be to toss away a small winning dealt hams and see if you consistently get at least the same amount back. Obviously try that as cheaply as possible.

If the cards are random but weighted unequally, then that would be a lot harder to determine.

Here's another question. What do simple games like Jacks or Better look like in these places? What are the paytables for those?

I think if you just tell us what state you are in we can probably tell you if they are random or not.

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If the cards are random but weighted unequally, then that would be a lot harder to determine.

This is what I am afraid of – some cards can be more probable to be dealt than others. Maybe I could get a good estimate of the fairness of the deck by playing a wild game and count the wild cards.

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Here's another question. What do simple games like Jacks or Better look like in these places? What are the paytables for those?

The games are quite different from those you have in the USA. One has to bet twice (on the deal and on the draw). This makes the pay table different. Straight for deuces wild is paid 3 for 1 compared to American 2 for 1.