AxiomOfChoice
AxiomOfChoice
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March 26th, 2014 at 12:48:23 PM permalink
https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/a-13-b-120-c-1-d-0-d-1-d-1-d-2-d-4-d-6-d-9-d-50-d-80-d-200-d-400-d-800-d-50-d-800/

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3 of a Kind + 1 Kicker 2223; 2224; 222A; 3332; 3334; 333A; 4443; 444A; AAA3; AAA4
3 of a Kind + 1 Kicker 4442; AAA2


I don't understand why these are split into two lines, nor do I understand why they are in the order that they are in. First, how can 2224 be worth more than 4442? The latter makes QQ when pairing the kicker, the former makes FH, and everything else is the same. Of course, there are no conflicts here, so it doesn't really matter, but, still, why put them on separate lines, and, if you are going to put them on separate lines, why put the less valuable one first?

Second, isn't AAA2 worth the same as AAA3 and AAA4? I don't see any difference. If dealt AAA23, it shouldn't matter which kicker you keep.

Am I missing something? Can't these just be combined into 1 line, because in all the situations where there are conflicts, it doesn't matter which one you keep?

Also:

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1 Pair 22; 33; 44; 66; 77; 88; 99; TT
4 to a Straight 6789; 789T; 89TJ; 9TJQ; TJQK
1 Pair + 1 Kicker 224; 552; 554; 662; 664; 665; 66A


Aren't 224, 66A, 662, 664, and 665 dominated hands here? The strategy generator doesn't usually list dominated hands... why are these ones here?
tringlomane
tringlomane
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March 26th, 2014 at 8:13:23 PM permalink
Well, 4442 must be in the bottom line of the two as 4443 and 444A are better holds. Not sure why AAA2 is there with it.

As for the latter part, I'm not sure why the dominated ones are listed in the main strategy either.

And while I am here, I would like to remind JB to try to reorder his 4 to a flush listing vs. 3 to a Royal Flush listing on 9/6 DDB, 9/6 Bonus Deluxe, and 9/6 Double Bonus and possibly other games. He has 4 to a Flush listed higher, and you have to hit the "more" button to see the only 4 to a Flush hands that also have 3 to a Royal in them is AxT.

It's correct technically, but is probably the most misleading thing on the generator. I use this awesome tool a lot. I would like to thank JB for all his hard work.
AxiomOfChoice
AxiomOfChoice
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March 26th, 2014 at 8:23:43 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Well, 4442 must be in the bottom line of the two as 4443 and 444A are better holds. Not sure why AAA2 is there with it.


Oh, I see, 2 lines are needed for the 444A2 or 44423 case.

It just seems strange to list worse hands above better hands, even if no conflict is possible (I am talking about 2224 being above 4442 -- it seems that 2224 should be on the lower line, not the upper one)

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As for the latter part, I'm not sure why the dominated ones are listed in the main strategy either.

And while I am here, I would like to remind JB to try to reorder his 4 to a flush listing vs. 3 to a Royal Flush listing on 9/6 DDB, 9/6 Bonus Deluxe, and 9/6 Double Bonus and possibly other games. He has 4 to a Flush listed higher, and you have to hit the "more" button to see the only 4 to a Flush hands that also have 3 to a Royal in them is AxT.


Ohh, that is NASTY. I just saw that massive list and assumed that all 4-flushes were in there.
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