Vulturing 'Ultimate X'
Quote: tringlomaneMore multipliers on quarters vs. nickels is a nice place to be at. Most of the nation is not close to that good.
That is what I would expect on the Las Vegas strip.
Quote: DRichThat is what I would expect on the Las Vegas strip.
Eh...still a lot of nickel units even there, but it's closer than most places probably. Finding more quarters is a function of nickel availability. When I look, the most multipliers are typically at the lowest denomination available for that unit, whatever it is.
Quote: strictlyAPjust fyi one explanation for the quarters is on quarters you can play 3-5-10 line on nickels you can only play 10 line
Oh that does explain a lot. I have never seen a UX machine force ten play on nickels. Only 5/10 play. And most set ups still allow 3 play nickels in my experience.
Quote: strictlyAPyea its weird on the dollar amount you can only do three line also
Now that's more standard. Lowers casino risk on massive dealt hand payouts.
Quote: strictlyAPReport for today. http://i.imgur.com/wmkhkRW.jpg
Really, someone left this multiplier behind?
Quote: rxwineReally, someone left this multiplier behind?
If they were playing quarters, that is a $102 win. I think lots of players are happy with that number and just walk away. We know it is foolish, but most people don't see gambling the way we do.
Quote: GWAEWhy do you keep posting these in the vulturing thread?
Because he left them for someone vulture. ;+)
Best hit, but still ended down $20...meh
When trying to vulture at a casino near me, it seems that they have newer "Ultimate X" Machines that do not allow you to vulture. As soon as you put your money in to make a bet, the multiplier goes away.
Has anyone else seen this, or am I doing something wrong?
Quote: makeshots22This might have been answered earlier in the thread, but...
When trying to vulture at a casino near me, it seems that they have newer "Ultimate X" Machines that do not allow you to vulture. As soon as you put your money in to make a bet, the multiplier goes away.
Has anyone else seen this, or am I doing something wrong?
I've noticed this too. All Ultimate X machines at Maryland Live seem to kill the multiplier when one cashes out, then another puts money in. Next time I visit, I will test this theory.
Ocean Downs in Ocean City, MD allows for vulturing. It's usually the first thing I do when entering that casino.
Try loading free play to see if it works if they disappear. I've seen the Star Wars game from IGT paying out for forfeited bonus features and wonder if they do.Quote: wrxrobI've noticed this too. All Ultimate X machines at Maryland Live seem to kill the multiplier when one cashes out, then another puts money in. Next time I visit, I will test this theory.
Ocean Downs in Ocean City, MD allows for vulturing. It's usually the first thing I do when entering that casino.
Also, I'm gonna be in AC for a few hours tomorrow, anybody have any locations on Ultimate X machines in Boardwalk Casinos? Not gonna spend a ton of time on this, but I'd like to try it out.
Based on the star wars game I mentioned, I'm assuming some of the value would have to be returned. You got $4 per accomplishment but it couldn't have been all the value because it increased the progressives significantly.Quote: Boney526How is it legal for a casino to just have the paid for multipliers just dissapear? Seems like something which wouldn't be allowed by most gaming commissions.
Also, I'm gonna be in AC for a few hours tomorrow, anybody have any locations on Ultimate X machines in Boardwalk Casinos? Not gonna spend a ton of time on this, but I'd like to try it out.
Based on the star wars game I mentioned, I'm assuming some of the value would have to be returned. You got $4 per accomplishment but it couldn't have been all the value because it seeded the progressives significantly.Quote: Boney526How is it legal for a casino to just have the paid for multipliers just dissapear? Seems like something which wouldn't be allowed by most gaming commissions.
Also, I'm gonna be in AC for a few hours tomorrow, anybody have any locations on Ultimate X machines in Boardwalk Casinos? Not gonna spend a ton of time on this, but I'd like to try it out.
FWIW, I finally played a couple of these in AC, and I was surprised as to how fast I found decent multiplayers (a couple 3 lines w/2x on all 3 and some others scattered around.) Then again, it was Saturday afternoon, and being that I found like 15x in multipliers in just a few minutes I'd guess that's not the norm. It was all on a bank of like 11-12 machines all right next to each other, though. Only made 10 bucks, but hey it only took a few minutes haha.
Quote: Boney526
FWIW, I finally played a couple of these in AC, and I was surprised as to how fast I found decent multiplayers (a couple 3 lines w/2x on all 3 and some others scattered around.) Then again, it was Saturday afternoon, and being that I found like 15x in multipliers in just a few minutes I'd guess that's not the norm. It was all on a bank of like 11-12 machines all right next to each other, though. Only made 10 bucks, but hey it only took a few minutes haha.
It really depends on timing and competition. If you're the only one looking there for the last 24 hrs on a weekend, then it will be pretty good. If you see 4 others looking for them like I did Friday night, then it will suck. I somehow lucked out and did find one triple play quarter game with 2,2,3 in it. Made a few bucks. I didn't look very much because of the competition. It's the worst I have ever seen in St. Louis so far.
And the day before I had the place to myself for a few hours. But it was fairly cleaned out before that. Found my first 12X at quarters last night. A guy bailed after dealt trip kings made a quad and a boat. I did okay on it considering my starting hand.
Quote: kingdomofsalildIs it unusual for a machine to not show any previous hand multipliers? Found 3 machines at one store and there were no previous hand multipliers on any game in any denom. Struck me as odd. Of course didn't find any next hand multipliers either. At first thought they had all been scavenged but then wouldn't it still show previous multipliers?
That is becoming a usual occurrence. I think they just updated the software or whatever. Although some places still use the old "show previous hand multipliers" version of UTX.
Quote: kingdomofsalildIs it unusual for a machine to not show any previous hand multipliers?
You mean, is it unusual for someone to lose two rounds of hands in a row and then decide that they've enjoyed all they can stand?
On ten play... maybe (or, they just play out their remaining multiplier on a low bet, and give it one more for good measure). On 3 or 5 play... nope, I wouldn't find that unusual.
I also wouldn't put it past an uninformed someone to try it casually on a 1 coin per hand bet, not see the appeal, and move on.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI don't know but if You saw them all at max bet last hand, then it would be interesting. Without knowing this, it's safer to assume someone played them all.
I often end play by some particular event rather than hitting a certain amount of money. I can't recall how many times I decided to end the night after the next 4 of a kind on regular VP. Countless times. Unfortunately, sometimes my patience can be tried when the quads refuse to show and I'm tired.
(frequent muttering, is a 4 going to come up again, ever! blah! damn machine)
Quote: BTLWIWhat I find interesting is when I see a 10-play hand that has 100 credits bet, has winning hands shown and no multipliers available to vulture. Will get a screenshot next time I see it but I've seen it plenty lately.
The cards shown are not particular to that denomination. The situation you described would occur if something like the following happened:
Player A plays $0.25 denomination, 10 line, 10 credits per line on BPD (Bonus Poker Deluxe). Their last hand is 4 to inside straight, and they brick every hand (so every hand loses). Then, Player B comes along and plays the $1 denomination, 10 lines, on Bonus Poker Deluxe, doesn't matter how many credits they bet per line (let's just say 5 credits per line). Player B gets a dealt flush then cashes out. Then you, BTLWI, come along and look on the machine. You'll notice on the $1 denomination the last round was a dealt flush (makes sense). When you switch over to the $0.25 denomination, you will notice, still, a dealt flush.
Quote: DieterYou mean, is it unusual for someone to lose two rounds of hands in a row and then decide that they've enjoyed all they can stand?
On ten play... maybe (or, they just play out their remaining multiplier on a low bet, and give it one more for good measure). On 3 or 5 play... nope, I wouldn't find that unusual.
I also wouldn't put it past an uninformed someone to try it casually on a 1 coin per hand bet, not see the appeal, and move on.
Oh I get that, but it was 3 machines, 3 denoms, and I think 15 games per denom so 135 games and not a single previous hand multiplier... I checked them all.
Probably they are older machines as Tring mentioned that don't show the multipliers for the previous hand (And someone scavenged off any next hands).
Quote: IbeatyouracesI've been getting my rear end kicked lately vulturing. Down well over $100 over the last week and mostly on nickels and dimes with a few quarters thrown in. :-(
I 2nd that. It is like the machine is set to not pay us vultures. I am down $275 in the last 2 weeks although some of the machines are $1. The other day I was dealt a FH on a 10 like $0.50 machine. I ended up losing $100 on that machine due to all the misses on $1 and $2.
Deuces wild probably hurting you the most I would guess. It does for me if I'm not dealt 3 deuces and even then I get screwed.Quote: GWAEI 2nd that. It is like the machine is set to not pay us vultures. I am down $275 in the last 2 weeks although some of the machines are $1. The other day I was dealt a FH on a 10 like $0.50 machine. I ended up losing $100 on that machine due to all the misses on $1 and $2.
Quote: onenickelmiracleDeuces wild probably hurting you the most I would guess. It does for me if I'm not dealt 3 deuces and even then I get screwed.
they always kill me. I can not see how anyone likes playing that game. I got a natural 4oak the other day that pays squat. I don't agree that a 4oak with deuces pays the same as a natural. The pay scale needs more work.
forgot which game or how many lines but it wasn't a line w/multipliers.
was more happy that I (finally) got a royal than the $400.
next machine was .50 10line and had 28x worth of multipliers!
thought my lucky day.
nope.. whiffed on all lines :(
so left +$375 :)
best vulturing in my small sample size
and I'm finally up since doing this
In honor of a recently departed member,
I got hit pretty hard in vegas for the little I looked for them. And went to Hammond IN on Thursday. Won about $15 doing it. Lost playing other crap though. Meh.
now if it had a 12x multiplier, then yes that would have been worthy.
or if the .50 10line machine with 28x worth of multiplers hit something big to give me a w2-g, then yes too.
Quote: 100xOddsno pic. royal was just $400. wasn't worth it.
now if it had a 12x multiplier, then yes that would have been worthy.
or if the .50 10line machine with 28x worth of multiplers hit something big to give me a w2-g, then yes too.
well, that $400 royal on a .10 machine WAS the best. (and it didn't even have a multiplier.)
today on a .50 machine, I hit quads w/a 4x multiplier.
$500 :)
