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AxiomOfChoice
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February 25th, 2014 at 1:55:38 PM permalink
Nice hit. I only ever find abandoned multipliers on nickel machines, which is honestly not even worth the time to check.
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February 25th, 2014 at 1:59:54 PM permalink
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February 25th, 2014 at 2:10:04 PM permalink
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Same here. A good majority of quarter and higher players know the whole point to playing the game is the multipliers. I've had some decent nickel wins though. It's where I got the AWAK on TDB for $200.00 then the same hand on DDB for $100 the next day.



That is pretty nice. The problem is that checking for them usually involves cycling through 5-10 games at 3-4 denominations. I think it looks kind of strange to sit down at a VP machine for long enough to do all that and then not play anything.

Is that what you do?
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February 25th, 2014 at 2:14:26 PM permalink
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February 25th, 2014 at 2:23:53 PM permalink
'Ultimate X' is a feature that is applied to various base VP games, like DDB, TDB, correct? So if I wanted to go hunting for vulture opportunities, it would be important to know the strategy for the base game first, correct?

Just curious. I have never played video poker in my life. Or is the advantage provided by leftover multipliers high enough that it's still +EV even if you don't know the first thing about VP strategy?
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February 25th, 2014 at 2:31:13 PM permalink
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February 25th, 2014 at 2:34:43 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

'Ultimate X' is a feature that is applied to various base VP games, like DDB, TDB, correct? So if I wanted to go hunting for vulture opportunities, it would be important to know the strategy for the base game first, correct?

Just curious. I have never played video poker in my life. Or is the advantage provided by leftover multipliers high enough that it's still +EV even if you don't know the first thing about VP strategy?



This is true, but it would be worthwhile to know SOMETHING about VP. If you give it a bit of thought, the mistakes that you do make are likely to be in the 1% EV range. That is nothing compared to doubling (or more) all your wins.
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February 25th, 2014 at 2:44:06 PM permalink
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February 26th, 2014 at 9:38:00 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

This is what you do. First see if there are multipliers. If not and before checking the next game, look to see if they played 10 credits AND there is a winning hand anywhere. If there isn't, you don't need to check that game on a different denomination. If you see that ten credits was played and you do find a winning hand but no "next hand x", now check other denominations. Saves a lot of time.


This is usually the case, but not always.

Say you're looking at a 5, 10, 25 cent machine, and there are some mults at the 5 cent game. Suppose someone comes along and plays the 25 cent game at 3 coins in, then leaves and you come along. You'll miss the 5 cent mults, seeing only 3 coins in, unless you're checking at the 5 cent level.

Personally, I cycle through at the highest denomination on the machine, as you described, so I don't miss any mults at that level if the above happens. If I miss an occasional mult at a lower denomination, so be it, as it takes time away from the +EV table games.

Also, one casino I frequent has a new bank of All Star Poker II machines with Ult X. Each denomination seems to be an independent game with 10 coins in with a winning hand not necessarily showing a next-hand multiplier (and each denomination showing a different set of cards).

BTW, was recently in Vegas and hit some nice mults on $5 and $10 machines in some of the HL slot rooms!
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