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Greasyjohn

Quote:AcesAndEightsThe Wizard has some good numbers over here.

Whoops that page is for slots. If you're playing VP, here's that page.

Thanks for the link. I read it carefully but have some misunderstanding. Since the 8/5 – Max Loss = 25 Units is the closest approximation to what I did, can you clarify how to interpret the info?

Since I bought in for $ 100 and was playing $1 VP betting $5 per hand that would be 20 Units ( if I’m looking at this correctly). So is the chart saying that the optimal strategy is to try to win 130 units ( $ 5 X 130 = $650? This doesn’t look right? What do the numbers under “Win Goal” and “Expected Win” mean in a $5 per bet game ( max coins) on a $1 VP game?

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Since I bought in for $ 100 and was playing $1 VP betting $5 per hand that would be 20 Units ( if I’m looking at this correctly). So is the chart saying that the optimal strategy is to try to win 130 units ( $ 5 X 130 = $650? This doesn’t look right? What do the numbers under “Win Goal” and “Expected Win” mean in a $5 per bet game ( max coins) on a $1 VP game?

Yes, that's what it is saying. You will fail a lot, but it still leads to the best average win.

And fwiw, these charts aren't as good for the Cosmo loss rebate, because you don't have to lose the $100 on your first day. So for the Cosmo promo only, the ideal win goals are much smaller than this since you have the benefit of "retrying" the loss rebate if you quit a winner. I would have personally quit a $70 winner and returned another day unless time didn't permit you to do so.

I didn't know you could come back at a later date if you left a winner. I thought, mistakenly, that if you don't use the rebate on the first day you lose it. And I guess what you're saying is is that if you quit the first day with a $70 win, and you come back, say, a couple days latter, you need only loose $ 100 on that future day to get the rebate. Whereas, if you don't take the $70 win you would have to lose $170 on the first day to get the rebate ( so the rebate is easier to achieve at a future date since the $70 first-day win doesn't apply).

Quote:GreasyjohnThanks Tringlomane,

I didn't know you could come back at a later date if you left a winner. I thought, mistakenly, that if you don't use the rebate on the first day you lose it. And I guess what you're saying is is that if you quit the first day with a $70 win, and you come back, say, a couple days latter, you need only loose $ 100 on that future day to get the rebate. Whereas, if you don't take the $70 win you would have to lose $170 on the first day to get the rebate ( so the rebate is easier to achieve at a future date since the $70 first-day win doesn't apply).

Yeah, it's basically this. At cosmo, every "Identity" member can claim a $100 loss rebate for one gaming day in their life (or until they end the promo). We signed up in May, my g/f didn't take her rebate until September. She racked up about 6 small wins before finally losing $100 in a day. Most loss rebates are NOT like this though, and the tables the Wizard has are based on not being able to re-attempt the rebate.