21forme
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September 4th, 2013 at 10:57:03 AM permalink
For example, if one uses 10/7 DB instead of 9/6/5 strategy?

As an aside, funny story - I was bonus vulturing a few days ago. Guy at the next machine was watching me cycle through the games. He then asked, "you looking for bonuses?" When I said yes, I was expecting some rude remark, but instead, he said, "I left some on DDB 2 machines down, if you want play those." Mind boggling!
RogerKint
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September 4th, 2013 at 11:07:25 AM permalink
http://videopoker.fws1.com/wrong_strat.html Hope this helps.
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21forme
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September 4th, 2013 at 5:39:53 PM permalink
Yes, thanks.
JIMMYFOCKER
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September 4th, 2013 at 6:16:39 PM permalink
Quote: 21forme

Yes, thanks.

Been tough being a vulture of late, there are many big birds around.
tringlomane
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September 12th, 2013 at 11:28:03 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

http://videopoker.fws1.com/wrong_strat.html Hope this helps.



You give up a lot more than that unless you are only vulturing the game. At least a few percent minimum I would think.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/ultimate-x/double-bonus/
mcallister3200
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March 6th, 2015 at 3:50:59 PM permalink
Quote: 21forme

For example, if one uses 10/7 DB instead of 9/6/5 strategy?

wondering if anyone knows of a more definitive answer or estimate to the OP's question (I know it will vary some by game/paytable). Is there a way for someone with somewhat average math skills and zero software/computer programming skills to figure it out, or preferably plug an incorrect strategy into vp software to get the return? (I have VPFW , but if it was a book I'd have to dust it off.) I am not referring to vulturing strategy, asking about playing the game straight up with the strategy from the base game.
tringlomane
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March 11th, 2015 at 10:49:07 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

wondering if anyone knows of a more definitive answer or estimate to the OP's question (I know it will vary some by game/paytable). Is there a way for someone with somewhat average math skills and zero software/computer programming skills to figure it out, or preferably plug an incorrect strategy into vp software to get the return? (I have VPFW , but if it was a book I'd have to dust it off.) I am not referring to vulturing strategy, asking about playing the game straight up with the strategy from the base game.



You wouldn't be able to solve it without a custom program.

As for regular video poker...frugal video poker will determine your EV using the wrong strategy.

But by a quick glance, 10/7 DB strategy isn't too far off of 9/6/5 UX strategy except that 4 to an inside straight is MUCH stronger, so it easily beats a high card.

But I would just refer to the UX strategy though since it's available.

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/strategy/ultimate-x/double-bonus/

And you can get a good basic strategy with JBs calculator for any paytable with the advice laid out here:

http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/20663-learning-a-new-game-utx-or-qq/
AxelWolf
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March 12th, 2015 at 1:57:55 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

You wouldn't be able to solve it without a custom program.

As for regular video poker...frugal video poker will determine your EV using the wrong strategy.

I have noticed Frugal has errors, I didn't know why.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tringlomane
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March 12th, 2015 at 12:49:49 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I have noticed Frugal has errors, I didn't know why.



Can you recall an example offhand? I have yet to notice one when I play around with it. But when they show the paybacks of some calculated games/strategies, they look slightly off, so this wouldn't shock me either.

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