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March 6th, 2020 at 7:30:20 AM permalink
Oh, there's another gambling forum to check out.
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March 6th, 2020 at 7:53:55 AM permalink
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New title thread:

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March 7th, 2020 at 8:10:01 AM permalink
I edited my suspension post, but am repeating it here for timely notification to the forum:

Edit: after substantial review, it appears most likely there is a third party attempting to troll this and other forums using mdawg as a tool. I am retracting the nuke on mdawg and assuming positive intent on his part, while leaving the nuke in place for HostVIPTables. Mdawg will be returned to regular membership status on March 12 as scheduled.
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March 7th, 2020 at 1:43:50 PM permalink
You have to really pissed someone off if they go to that degree to mess up your forum status imo
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March 7th, 2020 at 2:12:29 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

You have to really pissed someone off if they go to that degree to mess up your forum status imo



He’s being targeted as though he’s the worst of the worst. It’s not like he exposed an AP play or something
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March 7th, 2020 at 4:26:59 PM permalink
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He’s being targeted as though he’s the worst of the worst. It’s not like he exposed an AP play or something



That's kinda my point

We know what happens when you expose AP plays

So what the hell could MDawg have done that warrants this?
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March 7th, 2020 at 4:41:06 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

That's kinda my point

We know what happens when you expose AP plays

So what the hell could MDawg have done that warrants this?



He shared the methods he credits for his long term success at baccarat.
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March 7th, 2020 at 5:00:45 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

He shared the methods he credits for his long term success at baccarat.

Or, more likely, jealousy.
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March 12th, 2020 at 8:47:21 AM permalink
I suppose I had better post before an MDawg imposter steps in. There's no flattery like imitation!

Let's go back to the post Christmas / New Year's trip:
The final tally on this trip, from all three resorts, was about 26K in my pocket on the way home. I probably won closer to 35K given all I tipped out and what I spent in cash tips and miscellaneous. Most everything was comp'ed at the first and last resorts, but at the middle one, they ended up comp'ing none of the spa and not even all of the food.

Still, the final hotel bills including spa charges that were not comp'ed, from all three resorts, come to a mere two grand. So we're talking a free two weeks in vacation at high end resorts, and going home with about $24K to the good.

On the last day I ended up playing 7 and a quarter (maybe a half) Baccarat shoes. I raced through them so quickly, because I was playing alone much of the time, that the pit bosses ended up giving me credit for only 6 hours, but this plus the other play at this last resort was enough apparently to appease my host, who comp'ed everything but spa and tips. There really wasn't much food on there anyway at this last resort, as we were dining out, outside the resort, much of the time, or carrying in TACOS EL GORDO or the equivalent.

A friend of mine showed up near the end of my session with $250. Just by placing quarters on my bets, he was able to double his money. For a while he was placing nickels on my smaller bets, twenty five or fifty on my larger, but one pit boss eventually stepped in and told him that as a concession to me - the big player - they would allow my friend to bet less than $100., which was the table minimum, and only $25. on top of my bets, but no less. Still, he was able to double his money easily and each time he put a quarter on my bets I should have kicked his quarter off and called the table limit $20,000. because we lost absolutely no bets where he placed the green chip on my stack.

Towards the end, including an $8000. marker I had pulled, my chip stack was looking like this

and this was with an average of around $400. per hand - barely betting.

Tie bets - don't even get me started. The main pit boss at my table was advising any players who came up to bet the tie whenever I did.

"It's uncanny." he explained. "He's hitting something like 80% of his tie bets."

I have a system for predicting the ties. I bet them rarely, but when I do, I usually win. In my life I have bet a couple of $3000. tie bets (paying off $24,000.) and hit them both. 2/2. I have also bet a few $2000. and $1500. tie bets, and hit them all too. Of course, my average with smaller tie bets is not 100%, but when I am running hot (get me some antifreeze!), I will hit the majority of my tie bets.

After I paid off the marker, my winnings remained

at $10,710. after commission paid, for this one session alone.

Pushing me to play more hours had worked out. For me, not! the house.

Combined with the over $15K cash I had stuffed into the winner's envelope over the course of the trip

and this check which I received the next morning

my winnings, as noted, came to 26K.

Later as we relaxed in VIP, my friend commented on how the pit bosses had been acting during my play.

"They were all shaking their heads, frowning, trying to figure out how you were winning so consistently."

"Hmm," I mused. "You really think so? You really think they care about someone's winning ten grand?"

The pit bosses weren't the only ones who had noticed me. A young Asian guy had been watching much of my play. When I stood up to color up the chips, he stepped up to say hello and shake my hand.

"I just want to say, that it is very rare to see a player with such a good attitude."

I just laughed, and thanked him.

"Really though, you don't see that much. I just want to commend you. I think it is because of your attitude that you are winning."

Whatever the reason, I did win. And do win, consistently, in Vegas.

Another triumph, another success.

And what was the Winner's Dinner? How did I celebrate (other than the usual celebration with my wife, that has nothing to do with consumption of food)? The dinner of champions, was:

As I got up to the suite I was trying to decide between our going out, room service or walking next door to Tacos El Gordo again. I had a lot of energy. But, after we celebrated, my wife wasn't really in the mood to dine at all, as she had already had a late afternoon salad for dinner.

And somehow, the beauty of chowing down my own Ramen in my comp'ed suite was the final gesture that seemed most fitting. Plus I was somewhat hungry, and not in the mood to walk, or wait for room service, and neither of us felt like being around people at a restaurant.

"I'll show hm," I thought to myself. "I'll not even put a last meal on the room, even though, after all that play, I am now more than entitled."

I wanted that host to know that if I wanted to put food on the room, with little or no play, I would do it, just as quickly as I would put nothing on the room, even after long hours of play. I ate, slept, and gambled my own way, not his. Even if I had played a little longer today after he had mentioned that my hours were a little lacking, I wanted to make an impression that I had done it for myself, not to justify comps.

The next morning too, we ended up eating some of the food I brought up from VIP, and not ordering anything from room service. I picked up some sandwiches from VIP for the road on the way out, and we hit the road by about 2:30pm, to head back home. Victorious.
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March 12th, 2020 at 8:52:41 AM permalink
That trip ended mid January.

Since then, there has been one more trip, which ended early March, where I ended up winning even more, $32K

bringing the past two trips total to just under sixty K.

On this last trip I was in a free-entry Baccarat tournament too


where I made it to the semi-finals but not the finals. The guy who beat me at the semi-finals, at my semi-finals table, ended up winning the entire tournament. He received $70,000. in "play until you lose" promo chips.

Sadly, the guy did not "rinse" them by placing half on player and bank, and playing half and half repeatedly until they were gone (one of youse mathematicians may calculate quickly how much he would have walked with, given that they were "play until you lose" chips). Instead, he gambled with them, and ended up losing them all. Every penny. Sad.
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March 12th, 2020 at 8:59:10 AM permalink
Congrats, MDawg!

My only consternation....no pics of ribs. I am very disappointed that there are no pics of ribs. Maybe the King Wiz can step in and guarantee that any further Adventures should always include a nice pic of ribs for the dry rub fans.
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March 12th, 2020 at 8:59:25 AM permalink
You had me until your victory dinner was a plate of fifty cents Ramen noodles
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March 12th, 2020 at 9:00:04 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I probably won closer to 35K given all I tipped out and what I spent in cash tips and miscellaneous.


MDawg you tipped out $9,000 over a month? That seems massive unless your miscellaneous was quite large. This is an honest question no ribbing, is this mostly tips and if so why so much?
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March 12th, 2020 at 9:02:03 AM permalink
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You had me until your victory dinner was a plate of fifty cents Ramen noodles



I thought you were going to say, "He had you WHEN his victory dinner was a plate of fifty cent Ramen noodles."

For those of us who buy Ramen noodles, fifty cents a pack is the real high end stuff.
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March 12th, 2020 at 9:26:46 AM permalink
During this last trip that ended in early March, I encountered a fair amount of people at my Baccarat tables. This last trip I played Baccarat only, no BJ at all. I cannot say that anyone I saw was not up, including significantly up, at some point if not various points, during his play. However, every one of them ended up giving it all back and losing. So it's hard for me to fathom the benefit of not quitting while ahead.

The most extreme example was this fat guy who seemed as much into the show of betting big as the winning itself. He was a high end flat bettor, mostly ten thousand a hand, although he would mix it up some to bet 5000 or 20000 at times. (Flat betting doesn't work, my experience is that you need at least a 1 to 5, better still 1 to 10, spread on your bets to have a chance of winning.) By the second day that I saw him at the tables, I noticed that he was wearing an older (not current model 40mm like my platinum Day Date "President") but still strengthy 18K yellow gold Day Date "President" Rolex. His Rolex was crusted with aftermarket diamonds - typical show offy move but one that actually devalues the watch because it makes it no longer factory. I mention his watch because it was representative of his persona - flashy.

This guy, the first night I saw him, was down about 40K, and seemed to be sweating. The money obviously meant something to him - either that or he detested losing. He ended that session about ten K ahead and left, notably relieved.

When he would make a big bet, a case bet with all that was left of his chips (all that was left of the chips he had pulled at that moment, that is), he would say, "If I win this hand I SWEAR TO GOD I am done, I will stop." I must've heard him say that a dozen times over the next few days.

The next morning I saw him, and he told me he was up $340K, which a pit boss friend of mine actually confirmed. Nice!

But, next thing you know, I heard, and he later admitted to me (by now we had introduced ourselves to each other and knew each others' names), that he had lost it all. From +340K to zero.

But, he kept playing.

"I swear to GOD if I win this hand, I will stop."

That day he managed to get $200K ahead. The pit boss told me that he had ordered a car for him, they had sent him straight to the airport directly from the tables (I guess he traveled light - I seem to recall seeing him in the same clothes every day). He had changed his mind at the airport, and returned, and lost it all again.

By now, I didn't even like being at the same table with him, but whenever he saw me, he would come over and play, because he thought I knew something about the game, and in any case, obviously I was winning. But I don't respect a guy like that who bets big all the time and then gives it all back no matter how much he gets up. At Baccarat, typically other players defer to a player who plays a huge bet, politely declining to bet against him on the opposing side, assuming that the big bettor must know something. In this guy's case though, he knew nothing. He simply bet big most all the time, and lost most of the time. The house edge wasn't wearing him down - his own stupidity was.

When I saw him last, he was betting only purple ($500.) chips, betting smaller, was down something like -$150K, and that was the neighborhood he ended in when he lost all the cash he had brought with him that he had deposited at the cage. When you see a big bettor like that betting only purples, something's wrong! Busted. And true to form, he left DOWN, a LOSER.
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March 12th, 2020 at 9:37:20 AM permalink
Why the Ramen dinner?
On that penultimate trip (the one that ended in mid January) the host was starting to give me a hard time, if you recall, about how I wasn't putting in the hours. I was winning quickly, and just leaving the table somewhat fast each session. He couldn't hold it against me that I was winning, but he wanted to see the "four hours a day" B.S.

On the last play of the trip, the day before we left, I accommodated him, and ended up winning more on that session than any other session. 😜 As I played along, every shoe I had this vague feeling that I should stop while ahead, but I kept playing, and winning more. Finally after 7 or so shoes I left and this was the session where I won about eleven grand, which was accounted for from the final check they cut me.

Anyway, when I got to the room, first off it was a tad late, and I actually wasn't even really that hungry. My wife wasn't either. She had already eaten. Something in me wanted to just not even take any comps even though I had earned them. That's the type of person I am - if you tell me I need to do something to get something, I will do it, and then not even ask for what I have earned. In this case, the host had told me that I needed to step up the hours if I wanted to maintain full comp (RFB) status for the future, and I DID exactly THAT, and then...after earning all the comps, somewhat thumbed my nose at him (in my mind anyway) by eating Tacos Gordos and Ramen the last couple days of the trip. The next morning, we didn't even order room service breakfast, just left. Of course, the host ended up comp'ing everything (except her spa - Wynn/Encore is pretty tight about that, sometimes they have comp'ed her spa massages and treatments, and sometimes they have not - versus for example my most recent trip that ended in March, both Palms and Cosmo comp'ed EVerything, even her spa).

Anyway, so that answers, perhaps, why I ate the Ramen. That, and we didn't feel like seeing some room service guy come into the room, my wife especially just wasn't feeling it.

BTW those aren't the fifty cent variety of Ramen noodles. I'd say the end cost of that meal with the Albacore tuna was more in the five dollar range. 😄

I found a new type of canned tuna I like that is line caught, yet isn't dried out. I don't have a can right now will have to recollect the name brand another time.

Ribs, yes of course, ribs! BTW I just read that at the Wynn buffet hotel staff are now handing out the food to avoid guest contact with the serving utensils. So nowadays you must ASK for the ribs, not pick them up yourself.



Tips: Have I posted this before? Does tipping affect your bottom line?
Yes, of course, intrinsically, and yes, of course, it tilts the house advantage even more against you but...

When I play I have some kind of goal...sometimes it is to win just a grand, sometimes three, sometimes five, sometimes twenty. Sometimes the goal is simply, to win!

Along the way as I start pulling ahead I invariably toss chips alongside my bets for the dealers. If I win, they win. Generally I start off with red chips for them, then green and then, if I am really winning big, black chips. In the old days when I was winning table limit bets I would toss as much as a five hundred dollar chip alongside my table limit (in those days, fifteen grand) wager, for the dealer.

Some casinos try to limit the side wager for the dealers, some severely (for example the Hard Rock Vegas under Peter Morton limited the dealer bets to a measly $25. - for reasons that are too lengthy to explain quickly, but had to do with celebrities who were tipping out too much).

The house doesn't like tips. Money won by the dealers is locked up and no longer in play. Obviously, dealers do like tips.

I am not a greedy person. When I am winning, everyone wins! the dealer, the cocktail waitress, and of course...me!

When I reach my goal, I just stop. Tipping along the way might minutely affect the length of time it takes to reach my goal, but does not affect how much I end up with in my pocket. When I stop at a goal of say three grand, I will not end up with $3400. because I failed to tip out along the way, I will end up with just three grand. The way I play, tipping does not affect my bottom line.

Why I ended up tipping out so much that trip that ended in mid-January - well, I recall the specifics better of the trip that ended early March, so let's discuss that one...I had a few sessions where I was tipping out as I was initially winning, then ended up behind, then stopped as soon as I got even. Two sessions in particular at the Palms I ended up ahead just under a hundred dollars but the dealers ended up winning more than I did, because I was tipping out both while I was ahead and also while I was making my comeback. In those two sessions alone the dealers probably ended up with almost 1500 while I ended up with just two hundred.

In general when I come back from behind and I get even, I stop immediately. There were two sessions, the last two sessions at Cosmo in March, that went like this:

Session 1: I got about five grand ahead, as I recall it was 5300, and I wanted six grand. Next thing you know I was down -8 grand, and as much as -13 at the lowest point. When I made it back to even, this time I kept going a bit longer, and walked with a grand.

Session 2 (the last day of play of that trip, day before we left): I got ahead over six grand. For some reason I kept thinking, I am going to get ahead ten grand. As I recall, I wanted to make up for the four in "extra" winnings I "gave back" the day before. Well, THAT didn't work, and I was -8 TWICE on this session, and got back to even twice. But the second time, I kept playing, and walked with, again, a grand, which added to the +31K from the rest of the trip to make it +32K total.

During both of these sessions I tipped out a fair amount during the periods I was ahead, and while making a comeback. So while I won $2000. for those two sessions - walked with that - the dealers probably won quite a lot too.

When I was making my comeback on one of those sessions, I had a player run where I pressed into it, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500. Along the way I actually forgot to bet for the dealers, and anyway, I don't bet for them EVery hand, just some, definitely a minority of hands. In any case, I kept winning every hand on that run, SLAMMING the winning cards on the table and shouting every time, and there was a guy with me at the table, the only other player, who got excited and jumped in to bet big on the run too. I didn't enter that player run right at the beginning. I had actually bet bank a couple of times and lost, but the way I play, if I lose on the opposing side a couple of times, I jump ship to the other side. I go with the flow. Other players will keep doubling on the side that has lost for them, and this, I believe, is stupid first of all stupid because any kind of Martingale betting is stupid, but also because betting against the trend whether in gambling or the stock market, is also stupid.

In any case, after winning all those players in a row, pressing, I put four thousand on the player and three black chips for the dealer. Player lost - bank won. I lost four thousand and dealer lost a six hundred dollar toke. As I recall, it ended up being a nine player run, not a ten. The relief dealer was dealing the cards and the usual female dealer who knows me arrived at the table just as the bet was lost. I told her what had happened and she said words to the effect of that that dealer was a putz and he can never win money for them. In her mind, the bet would have been won if she had been pulling the cards.

Of course this is nonsense, the cards were set in the deck and there is no way the outcome would have changed if she had returned from her break sooner, but this is genuinely the mentality of some dealers, that they affect the outcome, or at least - "can" affect the outcome. Many players (not me) also believe this - that when certain dealers are dealing, they will lose. (For example the fat guy I mentioned above, the big player, he kept bemoaning that he could never win with a 7 against a certain female dealer. She would always outdraw him and hit to eight or nine. He was literally cursing her in a foreign language and crumpling the Baccarat cards and throwing them at her. Then he stayed out a hand, I drew a 7, and during the hand he kept saying, see, she will beat you. She didn't - I won with a 7.) What I will say though, is that some dealers will guide you if you are winning to bet more, or to bet less if you are losing. They will point out that you need to press, on a good shoe, or that this is a bad shoe, and you need to bet less, and they will do this more for players who tip and for players they like, than for the typical wooden rocking horse Bacc. player who never tips and doesn't get excited whether he wins or loses. Sometimes, the other side, playing neutrally (meaning the dealer) sees what is going on better than you do - sees that you are in a winning streak and need to step it up, or are in a losing streak and need to settle down or leave.


Over all, Let's just say that: If you don't believe that there is such a thing as a good shoe, where any decent player will win big, then you shouldn't play Baccarat.
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March 12th, 2020 at 12:45:20 PM permalink
Ribs!!! Looks good! Thanks, MDawg.
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March 12th, 2020 at 1:15:50 PM permalink
Yes! assuming this coronavirus doesn't get worse, will be back for more ribs in May!


By the way, note the updated comment of today to my CASINO CREDIT - HOW IT WORKS Blog
https://wizardofvegas.com/member/mdawg/blog/#post1785
and that I posted some confirmation of that casinos do definitely pull your consumer credit when deciding whether to issue a credit line.
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March 13th, 2020 at 7:46:45 AM permalink
My friend who plays big and practically lives at the Encore is STILL in Vegas. He has spent most of the past two years in a suite at Encore, winning big at first, losing big eventually.

He left for a bit, returned, now thinking about moving to Vegas full time. I don't recommend that for most gamblers unless you plan on making gambling your full time profession. I never casino gamble at home - only away, only in Vegas.
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March 13th, 2020 at 5:23:03 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why not end all the speculation and have that meeting with Mike and another member and show them your winning baccarat play and whatnot? Then we can all enjoy your posts without all the skepticism.


I moved your query to this thread because it seems to address the casino gambling.

No one doubts that MDawg is going to the casinos high rolling, the issue is whether he is winning. As discussed more than once, I don't think there is any "meeting" that would prove a thing. This last trip that ended in early March I either won or ended even at each session. What would it prove that someone came by and watched one session?

You mention "that meeting" as if something were ever set up. Nothing ever was set up, and nothing beyond a mere proposal by you or others to meet was ever mentioned. I was willing to meet one of the guys here but then I got suspended at WOV over a month before my Feb/March trip and lost contact with and forgot about whoever it was that I agreed to meet.

As a fellow casino gambler, which now based on direct communications you and I have had I do believe that you are a fellow gambler, I think you know how hard it is to make plans while gambling. For example this last trip they set us up to go into the Wynn suite and have direct ice-rink-side seats for a Vegas Knights game. On that day, a Saturday, I had to go to the gym, since it was my every other day to go, and we had to be ready to get into the limo at 6pm. By the time I was done with whatever I was doing that day - I didn't get to the gym early enough that day, I don't exactly recall why, it was something like 4pm by the time I got back from the gym - I didn't gamble at all that day, (1) because I don't like to play with set time limits, and (2) because by the time we got back from the game it was late and I am not usually a late night gambler. Point being that it is hard enough to fit in a fixed time social event within a gambling trip, let alone meeting someone.

I remember back before I was married I'd meet all these different girls online and arrange to meet them in Vegas and most of the time blow them all off because I got too busy gambling. Just the way it goes.

I do have direct contact with the Wiz, but last time I contacted him he proposed my meeting him closer to where he lives, not at a casino. So, I don't know what you mean about how something was set up ("that meeting") with me and the Wiz, as neither he nor I is aware of it. We have talked about meeting, but more about just meeting socially or for non-casino related business, nothing about hunkering down at a Baccarat table together - that's your version of that, not ours.

There was the Michael99000 challenge, but we know how that ended. Other than that, I'm not aware of "that meeting" arrangements. And as I mention above, it's not going to prove anything.

I think I do have a mathematically based riddle that I may propose that might shed some light on that any alternate explanation for my Adventures log would be less likely than the version of events I have presented. If I get a chance I will present it.

One thing annoyingly silly is that on top of the few posters who doubt whether MDawg is winning are the few posters who come on and say that anyone who spends the time to respond to anything on the internet must be making everything up.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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March 13th, 2020 at 6:32:01 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why not end all the speculation and have that meeting with Mike and another member and show them your winning baccarat play and whatnot? Then we can all enjoy your posts without all the skepticism.



Quote: MDawg

I do have direct contact with the Wiz



There's considerable skepticism concerning MDawg's claims of winning consistently since returning to casino gambling, and also receiving substantial comps based on previous play from his consistent winning trips.

Several skeptics maintain that these things (winning trips followed by comped suites) are mutually exclusive...that casinos don't continue to comp suites to players who consistently win.

I recall another member reporting a substantial win, and then providing the Wiz access to his player's account in order to verify the big win. That's my recollection anyway, but it could have been on another forum.

This was suggested earlier...why not provide the Wiz access to your player's account for at least one casino or a group of casinos? If that's a risk or too much of an invasion of your privacy, then post a redacted W/L statement(s) for 2019.

If it shows a win for last year, then the skeptics can all enjoy your posts without all the skepticism, or at least with somewhat less skepticism.

It seems like an easy way to mitigate much of this controversy...quiet your detractors, or at least make the effort.
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March 13th, 2020 at 8:58:21 PM permalink
Okay in order to do this I have to first go back and repost the trip results, Day by Day, for the entire February March 2020 trip. This was all posted in real time on multiple other forums, as it happened.

After I have posted all of this, I will then go in and post my mathematical riddle to try to show that it is more likely than not that what I post is truth. I know it is all the truth, but my exercise here is one way to try to prove that.

2/19/2020
Wynn Day 1 ($2000. win)
$8000. marker paid

Today was first day of play. Played four shoes. I was the only one at the table.

Ahead first two shoes, trouble on the third. I had pulled an 8K marker actually ended up losing it all. I made a 3K call bet, lost that too. Then another 3K call bet, won that, let it ride, and now I had $6K and paid off the two call bets. Down 2K.

Played my usual way next two shoes, stopped ahead about two grand, after having tipped out at least, I'd say four hunny over the course. One thing I did realize was that when I LOST a bet where I had twenty five or fifty alongside for the dealer, that at least psychologically seemed to eat into my stacks more than when I put money alongside for the dealer and we won together.

However, I am goal oriented. If my goal is to win two grand, I am not going to have, say, the four hunny I tipped out extra in front of me to win 2400 when I stop. So, over all, my tipping does not affect my bottom line whatsoever.

Relaxed in the room with the wife, she had a Nicoise salad, I had lobster tacos.


She's at the spa now. I'm up here chilling.

Until tomorrow!

2/20/2020
Wynn Day 2 ($3000. win)
$8000. marker paid

Allll righty then! Another win, pulled 8k marker, played four shoes, did get hectic at one point was down -4K plopped 4K on there got back to even and pretty smooth sailing afterwards to a little over 3K win for the day.

This brings the trip cash envelope to over five grand. I cashed the yellows 1K at Encore, 2K at Wynn, this way they don't look to see how much I have won which sometimes leads to a threat to temp close my line unless I deposit the chips against my line, or do not cash them.

Temp closing your line is a tactic they use to try to coerce you into depositing all your winnings. Then with that deposited plus your line if you go on a really bad run you might draw against and lose it all. But cash stashed in your safe is far from the casino floor and harder to get to which they don’t like.

Not everyone won. At my table everyone else who played my shoes lost, either because they didn't get on and stay on the runs the way I did, or bet against them. One guy lost a sizable stack of $500. purples betting against a bank run, and this messed me up to because out of respect for his bet I stayed out of it until about the third bank and then I HAD to jump in but bet small, since he was betting huge "against" me.

In blackjack, I used to think that other players misplaying basic strategy affect the outcome but I've realized for some time that they do not, it's just another card exposed to keep track of for purposes of the count and flow. Other players no longer affect me whatsoever at the BJ table. I just do my thing.

At Baccarat, it's another story. I tend to be the only one in the room winning at Bacc. so it comes down to "Who do I trust? ME!" and not wanting to be influenced by other players. You have some big bet ready for the Bank and some punk comes along and tosses a hundred on the Player, or some player who hasn't won a hand in the last five puts an even bigger bet on the Bank before you place yours, and it's hard for such events, especially as they pile up, to not affect your play.

So if possible I try to play earlier in the day before the high limit room fills with the drunks and other high rollers who seem to be there just to dump as much money as possible in as short a time as possible.

After all, Who put this thing together?

2/21/2020
Wynn Day 3 ($500.)
$8000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid

Friday got a little hectic at the tables. By the time I got back to the room I had energy and enthusiasm for sex, but not for firing up my laptop and posting anything on the 'net. So here goes:

I started at about 11am, somewhat early because it was not a day when I go to the gym (I go every other day). I had already been up since 5am for the stock market, and it wasn't the greatest day in the market either (I'm holding a pretty large AMZN trade position at the moment in the red through the weekend - I hold a lot of long term AMZN and other tech company shares that are up an insane amount of money, but I also trade extra shares of certain stocks including AMZN on a regular basis). I had a sell order for these shares at 2123 and of course on that last leg up it hit only as high as 2122.7 or so, and then gradually wound down to below 2100. But, all will be well next week on this trade, not to worry.

Anyway, back to gambling. Of the casino variety.

By about halfway through the second Baccarat shoe I was up about 3K. For some reason I wanted to get to more like 5K to make it an even 10K won this week at this casino, but instead, I started losing. Next thing you know I had lost the entire 8K marker I had pulled. I did a 2K call bet on the Bank, won. I paid it back, did another 2K bet with these chips, won. I was thinking I should have just let the 4K ride, and then I would have been close to even again (minus the 2K owed on the call bet), but I didn't. Then I played that 4K on another hand a bit later, lost. Another 1K call bet, lost. I had them print it to ten. So now I had $9000. in front of me and owed the casino $9000. for this session.

I played some more, but by the end of the second shoe or maybe at some point in the third shoe, don't quite recall, I had lost that second marker too. Now down $18,000. I asked the pit boss for another $10K and he said no. I did a double take - I have a fifty K line, so what was he getting at? Turned out, what he was getting at was a joke.

"I just gave you one."

True. But I lost it.

"I'll tell you what. I'll give you another one, but you have to promise to give it back. And no crazy betting - this is a crazy shoe."

He was right. This wasn't the best shoe - no discernible pattern, no runs to mention, no streaks. I should not have been betting big into such a shoe.

But then my luck changed. I played a total of seven shoes, and honestly, I did not bet crazily any longer. My average bet was 500 for the rest of the day, and bit by bit I won back all of what I had lost, tipping out about 500. along the way, and paid off all the markers.

I was getting a bit stuck at this point when I had about $25K in front of me:

and this pic was taken when a different pit boss, female one who said, "I'm proud of you. You won back all your money and you played relaxed." was present - one who doesn't care about pictures taken.

All markers paid:

I hadn't won a nickel (well, I did win $500. but all of that was tipped out to the dealers by way of side bets for them alongside mine out of appreciation as I kept winning my markers back), but I was now HUNGRY. I had barely eaten breakfast and was getting more and more tired as the hours wore on - I had played 7 and a half hours straight, and been up since 5am. It's amazing how hungry one gets after a winning session (and how one may barely masticate a steak after losing due to LACK of appetite).

The line at the buffet was long, but my Tower Suite star key (given to RFB (room food beverage comp'ed) guests, got me to the head of the line.

At the buffet, I ate.

and ate

and ate

and ate

and ate

and ate

and ate

and ate

and then finished with the interior fillings only of a crepe and a spoon of their banana mousse. (Not big on dessert)

My wife was at the spa, and a friend I texted couldn't join me because he was gambling, so I ate alone, but I really didn't mind. I was just there to eat.

Afterwards I walked all around the resort to walk off some of the food and my post-win energy. It is quite exhilarating to go from over minus -20K to even. I checked out a perpetual calendar Patek that I might buy soon (I collect fine timepieces, and change my watch to change my luck when gambling), and picked up a tee shirt for the wife (she already has everything).

Afterwards on the way back to the Tower Suites, I stopped back to chew the fat with a few of the pit bosses and dealers in the high limit pit, since I knew my wife wouldn't quite be back from the spa yet. The consensus was that Baccarat is the "most regal" of games and the one that they see people win at the most often. (Sadly, in my opinion and observation, I believe that most players just give back all they win before the end of the trip.) One dealer that I talked to agreed that playing just 500 per hand, the chances of winning back over 20000 consistently over a number of BJ shoes would have been slim. The times that I have won big at BJ, which I used to really kill them at double deck BJ until some of the casinos started banning me from that game, was through huge bet variance, between practically table min and table max. Flat betting pretty much gets you nowhere at any casino game, but most especially at BJ. In Baccarat the good shoes and runs may continue for very long periods, and sometimes it becomes only a matter of "how much do you want to Wynn?"

Anyway, all's well that ends well.

Last night they limo'ed us to the hockey game and we were in the Wynn suite at the stadium.

I managed to make it to the gym before the game, but did not play yesterday.

We have a late checkout today so I plan to play some this morning.

2/23/2020
Wynn Day 3 ($1550. win)
$8000. marker paid

I won another 1550 today, tipped out a couple hunny along the way. Played just a couple shoes.

Had a player run at the end and declared that I would leave when it did, and when it ended...I left! bringing my winner's envelope to about 7K.

During pretty much the same period that I played and won, a guy came up with three grand and declared that he had twenty minutes to play until he caught the plane. He took that 3 to about 9 at one point but kept playing. In my mind, I was thinking...how much does this guy want? He got back to even and none ahead twice, but rallied each time. He kept playing. What was the goal? Did he even know?

In any case he walked with only one purple chip...down -2500.

Money management!

Packing now, onwards to the next resort later today. Cheerio!

2/24/2020
Palms Day 1 ($100. win)
$8000. marker paid
Won barely a hundred dollars today, after being down -8K more than once. Call bets were key to the path back up! I won all of these fortunately, or at points I would have slipped to more than 8K down.

I was playing a $300. min (instead of the usual $100. min) shoe today, and I wasn't working the low-high bet spread properly. Still, it ended fine. I am very good at quitting once I reach even after being down.

I probably tipped out triple what I won.

Hey, but at least the cocktail waitress was nice, and beautiful, and she kept the hot teas coming. She's as much a regular in the high limit pit as I am, and we know each other well.

Today's win:

(I left the fifty cent piece with the cashier as a tip.)

Today's marker paid:


2/25/2020
Palms Day 2 ($100. win)
$8000. marker paid
$3000. marker paid (call bet)
$10000. marker paid
$20000. marker paid

Today was a repeat of yesterday, almost to the letter. Ended with just a couple dollars more than yesterday!

and wearing platinum today versus gold yesterday didn't seem to make a difference.

I was down as much as, I believe it was, -23 at one point, but gradually rallied to even.

This is how it went: I pulled an 8, lost it, did a couple of call bets, won one or two, lost one or two. Pulled a ten, lost that too - not immediately, but eventually. Then pulled a twenty. At one point (when I was down -23 I believe it was) I slammed $15K on one hand and won with a 6. Later on I won an $8000. nine over eight player. That was pretty fun. Commission - that was killing me, I must have paid out five grand maybe a lot more, of commission along the way to a final victory. I rarely if ever keep playing after coming back from in the hole to even.

Some might ask why would I even get down, reading the cards and varying my bet. I am not actually playing this $300. minimum table correctly. I need to vary my bet more and press into the runs better. Once I was on a roll, the dealers kept commenting that I wasn't betting enough and could have emptied their tray if I had been playing harder. But, I was gun shy after being down so much, and just wanted back to even.

Sad isn't it, how "easy" it is sometimes to win twenty or thirty grand when you have to (are down), but not so much when you don't have to (are ahead).

Towards the beginning I had this really cool cocktail waitress. I recall her from last trip although I don't know her as well as the one from yesterday. Towards the end this Russian blonde took over and although hot she had a masked but visible (at least to me) attitude, and if anyone did not deserve a tip, it was she, but she did deliver my teas, and so, she got the same fiver per hot tea as any other waitress who serves me. The Russian girl spent most of her time in the back bar behind the tables surrounded by about five guys, a combination of customers and employees. I was in such a good mood as I inched in on my goal, that I felt like leaping back there and saying, wow, you sure have it nice surrounded by male minions, now how about bringing me a tea mine has gotten cold again. But, so what, it's the Palms and hot cocktail waitresses at least at high limit are the norm. Let them enjoy the attention. I was busy winning back my money.

All markers paid, waiting for wife to come back from the spa, then probably a long dinner at Bobby Flay's. I have too much energy to dine in the room tonight. That was pretty intense today. I may be getting tired. I misplaced something valuable in the room and when I didn't find it in the safe I started panicking. I was about to login on my laptop to GPS search for it, when I discovered that my wife had hidden it for me. I must have left it out on the bed. Careless. Maybe time for a break.

In any case I play one session per day only so tomorrow I will go to the gym and get grounded before resuming play.

I found another marker in my wallet. This one was was from one of the call bets that I won, where the pit boss printed the marker so fast that I had to go through paying it versus having the chips simply disappear from the tray against the win.

In the "old" days (meaning over a decade ago), casinos used to allow the chips in the tray for call bets to accumulate even past one hand, but nowadays, especially at the Palms, they seem quick to print that marker versus holding it in the tray.

Another thing that has changed - no more call bets where players would toss a stack of bills on the table and declare how much it is, and get paid that amount if they won without the casino's even counting the money. No more cash bets at all, in fact.

2/26/2020
Palms Day 3 ($1400. win)
$8000. marker paid

Pretty smooth sailing today. I arrived at a shoe that was about half played, completed that one, played one more shoe, and walked with some money. Not a ton, about fourteen hunny. That's a purple at the end of the stack.

Marker paid. That is an 18K rose gold Breguet I am wearing today by the way, not a Rolex. What they call, a "complicated" watch.

I was down no more than a couple thousand before starting to win, which is within expected variance for a $300. minimum table. Also, I was losing on the shoe I walked up to, while I won on the shoe I cut. Does it make a difference? Well, maybe. All I know is that I tend to cut very good shoes.

Tomorrow we move to the next resort, so I didn't want to spend time playing catch up all day again today or take any big risks. So as soon as I got a little ahead I just left. I generally am cautious on the last day of play at each resort. Anyway, success! Leaving this casino, too, ahead!

2/28/2020
Cosmo Day 1 ($6400. win)
$8000. marker paid

Tonight was like...money from home. Barely betting (average around four hunny), never behind at any point, walked with 6400. I played just 2 and a quarter shoes.

At one of my tables this fat guy was down $40K and sweating heavily, but he kept putting it out there and walked $10K ahead.

Cashed 1400 of my winnings because when you cash too much they threaten to temp close your line, and held onto the 5K chip. When I cashed the 14 hunny I slid the cashier ten bucks from my wallet.

Marker paid.

Tomorrow is the Bacc. tournament. I start playing early in the afternoon.

Waiting for the wife, she's at the gym, to go out to dinner. High energy night!

2/29/2020
Cosmo Day 2 ($14,100. win)
$8000. marker paid

This is the chip start at the initial table for the Baccarat tournament:

I came in first place at the first table and made it to the semifinals

but came in only second place at the semi finals table - so I did not advance to the finals.

That's the bad news. It was exciting though.

The GOOD news is that before the tournament I played a mere three shoes, and again, barely betting, won $14,100.

I had some ups and downs towards the beginning of the first shoe, but once I got to $2K ahead it was smooooooth Billll all the way up.

Interestingly, at my table where four of us played, two of us won, one broke even, and one lost...simply because the other two did not follow my bet spread. I won more than anyone else at my table. I was the big player at that table tonight.

But speaking of big players, the fat guy I saw last night who was down something like $40K and came back to leave ahead something like $10K ahead last night has kept winning. He's betting crazily and was up $340,000. last I saw him. Slobby, fat guy, no jewelry, poorly dressed with a fat unattractive wife, winning big. I get the feeling by how nervous he was when he was down forty last night that the money really means something to him. Good for him, beat the house for all you can!

My total ahead now is pushing thirty grand for the trip. I cashed the yellows and the black chip, two grand at the high limit pit cashier and 2100 at the main cage, no questions asked, and now have three flags stashed away to deal with at the end of the trip.

By the way, and doubt this will mean anything to any of you, but I discussed with one of the dealers how to "read" the doughnuts, hamburgers and french fries on the video Bacc screen, and apparently there is an alternate way to read them that anticipates the next hand versus simply looking at what color it is now. Interestingly, last night my friend who lives at Encore texted me about how he had been reading them wrong. I didn't understand what he meant last night, but I do now. However, those predictors may mean nothing or they may mean everything, just depends on the shoe. I was just lucky enough to cut shoes - I cut them myself and the other players were insisting that I do the cutting since I was doing so well - where the patterns were discernible and we got several great bank and player runs. There was no need to move - I just kept winning at the same table. Really nice.

A different fat guy (not the one up $340K) beat me at the semifinals tables and won the entire tournament. It must be their night. The night of the fat boys! Well, more power to them, sock it to the casino!

I got take out Hattie B's again for dinner, including one box for one of the female dealers at my table tonight that I dropped off for her on the way back up to the suite.


It's slutty girl night at the Cosmo, they're all over da place trying to rustle up attention. Sorry I don't have any pics of that for you, but taking pics of random scantily clad betties is not my thing. You'll just have to take my word for it on this one.

3/1/2020
Cosmo Day 3 ($300.)
$8000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid

Won nothing / lost nothing today. ($300.)

I pulled an 8 lost it, pulled a ten lost some of it, then rallied back fairly quickly to around minus 8, then playing just 500 or so a hand I won it all back on a couple of great shoes.

I ended up pretty much even (ahead a few hundred most of which I tipped out). When I come back from a large enough negative to even I am very good at stopping.

Today therefore was an even day.

So the story of the scene remains about thirty ahead!

I extended us to Wednesday. Hey, at least I earned some comps today. Pit boss said she had me at average 1800. This is because I did play some bigger hands all the way to 4500 with mixed results.

During this same time that I played today that fat guy who was ahead $340K Saturday morning played at my table. Now I see that he's not a good player it makes me angry to see someone play like that. No matter what he gets ahead he keeps playing until he loses it all. By yesterday afternoon he had lost all he was ahead and was even, then ahead $200K, now today he is down about -$100K. Apparently he owns a couple of marijuana dispensaries, so maybe he has some money to burn, but from how upset he gets when he is losing, the money must mean something to him. He's in one of the million dollar suites at the Cosmo so he must have at least a few hundred thousand on deposit.

I talked to one of the pit bosses I know about him. Apparently the fat guy was in a limo, at the airport, ahead the two hundred grand, when he decided to come back, and since then, has lost it all and is down -100K. What he is up and down varies by the minute because he is betting anywhere from 1000 to 20000 constantly, with most of his bets around 5000. The reason I think he has only a few hundred thousand on deposit versus a million is that he has no special limits - he plays to $20K the same as the rest of us. If he had a million on deposit they would have raised his limit to at least thirty, maybe more.

One thing, today he was wearing a diamond encrusted Rolex President but it looked aftermarket to me. All of my Rolexes including the ones I have with diamond markers or bezels are all factory. I am a Rolex purist I go for all factory only. His looks gaudy. Still he is a fellow gambler, and I respect him for risking his money, but he has no money management skills and will play until he loses it all is my prediction.

3/2/2020 ($1000. win)
$8000. marker paid
$20000. marker paid

Yesterday the end chip count was

This was before I went back downstairs to pay off the markers and take a trip to VIP to pick up some Pellegrinos, tip the VIP staff, and make a sumptuous dining reservation (was feeling VERY celebratory).

Of this $28,000. only $1000. was my win for 3/2/2020, but still a win is a win. The winner's envelope is now bursting at the seams

and the totes ahead for the trip is about $31K.

All markers paid, of course.

Several interesting things happened yesterday. I was actually ahead over $5K and trying to get to $6K when things started going awry and before you knew it I was betting five grand a hand with mixed results after I dipped to as low as -13K at one point. At that moment while I was heavy hitting the cigar/cigarette girl came by, and I grabbed two tubed cigars from her.

I don't even smoke, and I hate all smoking, but I was feeling ornery and wanted to flex my comp muscles. I had a trip a while back at this same casino where I asked for a cigar for a friend and they made a big deal out of having to get it approved. When I grabbed the two cigars the girl asked the pit boss if I could have two.

"I can have ten!" I answered for him, and then of course the pit boss nodded his consent.

While I was playing, this Asian guy with a half million line (I figured this out later by myself even before the pit boss mentioned it after he left, because he bet one hand at $30,000. which is allowed only for a special limits high credit line player) came up and noticed my watch.

"Is that the platinum?"

"Yes."

He rolled up his sleeve. He was wearing the Rolex Daytona platinum with the chocolate bezel, this watch:

and of course I recognized it instantly. It is called, the "Platina."

Mine is the latest 40mm Rolex Day Date platinum.

We took off watches and let each of us hold them, comparing weights. Both extremely heavy - we decided that mine must be a tad heavier. The pit boss got in on it too.

"Let me hold those too." And then, after holding them, "Wow!"

That's the thing about wearing a platinum versus a white gold Rolex. It is low key and no one knows what it is - except your peer group.

The third thing that happened of interest was that I won one hand just $300. with a bank 6 on a commissionless table (at this casino a bank 6 win at the commissionless table gets paid half). Dealer paid me full. Nearly a half hour later a pit boss came out of nowhere had me cough up the $150. So they are definitely on me, watching closely. It is also a testament to how good surveillance is these days versus about twenty years ago when I was paid $3750. for a $2500. BJ bet when I threw down a king and queen with exultation and the dealer hit to 21. Back then, no one ever came up later to tell me that I had actually LOST -$2500. versus getting paid 3:2 for a BJ I didn't even have.

Last night we were out late dining and had too much fun afterwards back in the suite.

Today is the last day of gaming. Leave tomorrow. Sad, but even good things must come to an end.

Good for me anyway. The fat guy lost pretty much everything. He was playing with only purple chips today. He told me that his friend had lost everything last night too. Now this fat guy, when he loses (which is frequently), forgettaboutit. He starts crumpling cards, throwing them at the dealer, and cursing in a foreign language. But afterwards, as he walks away from the table, he does come around and apologize to the dealer.

I don't believe in getting upset when losing.

In fact, afterwards, after this fat guy had lost everything and left, the pit boss pointed out, talking to me, that "I don't believe I've ever seen you mad."

How does getting steamed help anything? Must play cooly, analytically. And anyway what is there to get mad about? Even when I get down I come back to win in the end.

This always winning in the end goes for both gambling, and the stock market, which incidentally although there will be ups and downs along the way is on its inevitable course back to record highs.

3/3/2020 ($1000. win)
$8000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid

Total winnings: $31,450. (not including the thousands I tipped out along the way to the dealers)

Final results for this trip, about $32,000. to the good!

That brings the total between even just the past two trips, at almost sixty K. MDAWG IS A WINNER.

I won those fifty cent pieces on a couple of odd amount Bank 6 winners where I was paid half (I was playing the commissionless Bacc. table again today). The dealer suggested I hold on to them as continued luck for the next trip.

Today was a bit tumultuous though. I was up, just like yesterday, around $6K but it was after just two or three shoes, and I kept playing. I was trying to get to ten K today, thinking okay that will make up for the 4K I didn't get yesterday where I ended up only $1K ahead. Next thing you know I was down $8K! I pulled a ten K marker, lost a thousand here and there, pressed into a player run, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500 and had the whole 8K back immediately (I did lose the last hand for 4000 with 300 on the side for the dealer, that hurt, but still that run got me back to 18000), and I then paid back the ten. Then, not so long afterwards, I was down 8K again! I pulled a ten again. I then put 4000 on bank, WON, 4000 on bank again, WON, and repaid the second ten K marker.

From that point on I played very conservatively. By the end of the fifth shoe, things weren't really going anywhere, I was ahead $1000. just like yesterday, and I quit. Bam! $32,000. to the good for the entire trip. I will cash the 15,000 in chips just before we leave for a check. They will temp close my line for cashing so much, but the way to do that is upon departure, when it no longer matters.

Pit boss told me he gave me credit for five hours today, at 1500 average.

We leave tomorrow, and I do not play on checkout days. MDAWG PREVAILS YET AGAIN.

Wife didn't want to go out so I got some high end restaurant food from the second level, and brought it up to the suite. This morning the host already texted me that she was comp'ing everything except tips and retail, including all spa services that my wife got. Nice. Can you see why when I get to Vegas I never want to leave?

Over two weeks in Vegas first class in the top suites, fun gambling, and winning. And I am able to handle my business while away as well as attend to the office building we bought here.
What's not to like?

Converted the three flags to a check, and with the cash, equals a $32K take-home win. I spent some and tipped a lot along the way, so the total win was actually a fair amount higher.

Pretty much the entire hotel bill at this hotel too was comp'ed, including spa. All that was left were tips (some of which I tipped in cash along the way) and a tiny bit of retail. BEAUTS! I mean my total bill charged to credit card is coming in under a couple hunny! for six nights in a 1200 square foot suite all food and bev included. DOUBLE BEAUTS!

And that concludes MDawg's Feb. 2020 two week plus Vegas adventure.

We'll be traveling in non-casino destinations in April, so the next trip report will be in May.
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March 13th, 2020 at 8:59:02 PM permalink
That’s the trip report for Feb/March 2020.

My story, which is the truth, is that I arrived in Vegas 2/18 with an empty envelope and $50K credit lines at the three casinos we designated for this particular trip; I played at all three until we left 3/4/2020, with about $17,000. in cash in the envelope and a check for $15,000.

Step by step, the wins and markers pulled and paid were:

2/19/2020
Wynn Day 1 ($2000. win)
$8000. marker paid

2/20/2020
Wynn Day 2 ($3000. win)
$8000. marker paid

2/21/2020
Wynn Day 3 ($500.)
$8000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid

2/23/2020
Wynn Day 3 ($1550. win)
$8000. marker paid

2/24/2020
Palms Day 1 ($100. win)
$8000. marker paid

2/25/2020
Palms Day 2 ($100. win)
$8000. marker paid
$3000. marker paid (call bet)
$10000. marker paid
$20000. marker paid

2/26/2020
Palms Day 3 ($1400. win)
$8000. marker paid

2/28/2020
Cosmo Day 1 ($6400. win)
$8000. marker paid

2/29/2020
Cosmo Day 2 ($14,100. win)
$8000. marker paid

3/1/2020
Cosmo Day 3 ($300.)
$8000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid

3/2/2020 ($1000. win)
$8000. marker paid
$20000. marker paid

3/3/2020 ($1000. win)
$8000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid

Total winnings: $31,450. (not including the thousands I tipped out along the way to the dealers)


Now here are all the markers from the first casino, Encore:


From second casino, Palms:


From third casino, Cosmo:


(I always keep my markers after I have paid them and torn out the signature. I have bags full of them from the past years.)

I also found this, the check stub from the Cosmo check:


Now, you know my story. I came with no money, I played with credit lines, I won $17,000. in cash, and $15,000. in check, and took that home.

What is a plausible alternate explanation?

If I came with cash only and played as a cash player, and lost, and that check is somehow what was left of my money, how did I get the check? Casinos will not convert your cash to a check, that is a huge no no that got the Venetian fined millions of dollars. You arrive with cash, you leave with cash.

If I wired in the money, or deposited it in the form of a cashier’s check, and lost most of it, how did I get the cash? Again, casinos will return whatever you brought in only in the same form as you brought it in – they won’t convert your cash to check, nor will they convert your check to cash.

As well, we have the “Verified Chip Win” slip, which supports that the check was for a win.

Not to mention my images posted here of the credit inquiries on my credit profile:
https://wizardofvegas.com/member/mdawg/blog/#post1785
that supports that I am a credit line player. I sure didn’t keep pinging my credit if I kept getting denied credit at one resort after another – much more plausible is that I opened one line, then others, over a one year period.

Did I go from casino to casino LOSING and keep playing? Has any of you played Vegas with multiple credit lines before? Do casinos these days especially, allow players to check in and play to the max on credit if they owe or are already blown out at other resorts? I know the answer, but do you?

As a credit line player, how did I get the $15,000. check? Are casinos cutting checks for loans to credit line players to take home? I know the answer, but do you?

In any case, you have before you $199,000 in paid markers with the signatures ripped out, and pictures of sums of chips alongside the paid markers that support the exact wins of the day or the exact amounts needed to pay back the markers, with the markers often posted contemporaneously with the day’s wins. What plausible theory accounts for all these paid markers and chips and still winding up with a $15,000. check and $17,000. cash other than having won $32,000.

Sometimes the simple explanation – that the guy won – is the not only the best one, but also the only one that fits.


Put even more simply: I wouldn't have had the appetite to eat all those ribs, if I had lost!
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March 13th, 2020 at 9:44:53 PM permalink
Wow, you know how to live it up. Looks like fun. Nice watch
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March 14th, 2020 at 6:16:04 PM permalink
Thanks! Ace2


There are Still people in Vegas, Still people winning, and Still people planning on coming back soon.

Convo with a friend of mine who is at T.I. right now. Hadn't talked to him since the day before we left Vegas in March.


Nothing to do with Vegas, but: also, I talked to my mom on the phone she said she stopped by a health food grocery chain she frequents today, and it was stocked as always and no lines other than as usual. Granted this was a health food supermarket, and it was a better part of town, but still - no pandemonium by any means. She said she stopped by a Rite Aid store too - empty (of people, not consumer goods).
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March 15th, 2020 at 10:50:30 AM permalink
bienvenidos amigo!

is good to see i find you the other place but nice is to see you here!!!
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March 15th, 2020 at 7:58:29 PM permalink
Mucho gusto! Mendoza.


Some other friends of mine still plan to fly from Canada to Vegas by March 25th, for this golf tournament. Whether T.I. remains open on a shuttered Strip as far as MGM resorts and Wynn/Encore remains to be seen. T.I. is right across the street from Venetian, and Venetian has stated that it plans to remain OPEN.
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March 17th, 2020 at 5:34:24 AM permalink
Well T.I. states it will remain open, so their golf tournament would seem to be on!

My old friend the Cosmo is closing Wednesday though.
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March 17th, 2020 at 5:46:35 AM permalink
I guess they are feeling the pinch!
Casinos ask Congress for emergency aid as coronavirus toll sweeps industry
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/16/casino-bailout-coronavirus-congress/
that MDawg clocked them for about sixty grand the past two trips couldn't have helped.
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Quote: MDawg

I guess they are feeling the pinch!
Casinos ask Congress for emergency aid as coronavirus toll sweeps industry
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/16/casino-bailout-coronavirus-congress/
that MDawg clocked them for about sixty grand the past two trips couldn't have helped.



There are lots of industry professionals and casino employees who lurk and read this forum

Posting valuable information that hurts their bottom line (as I was accused of) angers AP's enough to make them leave and boycott this forum

Notice no one cares about leaving this forum because of the information you post

Just an observation!
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dark - I don't follow what you are saying at all. There is no comparison between what you write and I write, in that you wrote about specific methods to win, whereas mine are more trip reports, with some examples of winning shoes and how I played them, and general strategies.

Whatever you do is low end though, I don't see why anyone anywhere got twisted over it, but that seems to be a topic long resolved so why do you bring it up again?
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March 17th, 2020 at 4:20:27 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

post a redacted W/L statement(s) for 2019.

If it shows a win for last year, then the skeptics can all enjoy your posts without all the skepticism, or at least with somewhat less skepticism.

It seems like an easy way to mitigate much of this controversy...quiet your detractors, or at least make the effort.


Had a little time on my hands - all three gyms we belong to closed until the end of the month. 😫 Ask, and you shall receive: Cosmo, Palms (which I didn't even start playing at the Palms until towards the end of 2019), and Wynn/Encore, the three casinos I play at and was at all three the latest Feb/March 2020 trip too.

For good measure I placed my 40mm Platinum Day Date by one of the statements, just to illustrate that even all of the monies won between these three statements would barely cover this watch. And so that you'll know that it's I. 😇

As your attorney, I recommend you get an iMac Pro, 18 core 2.3 GHz Intel Xeon W, with 256 Gb Apple only factory original memory and 4 Tb SSD, Radeon Pro Vega 64X with 16GB of HBM2 memory with Dual 5K displays, no, not to display Win/Loss statements for naysayers, but to use for stock trading.

What these win/loss prove, beyond the simple fact that MDawg wins, is that the numbers I have been posting are accurate and truthful. Compare these numbers to my past trip reports, and I think you'll find that almost exactly what the casinos say I won, I posted here in my past trip reports that I won.

I think my prior post, with the copies of all the paid markers, chips, and cash/checks collected already established enough, and I note that no one came in with any kind of alternate explanation for the data, but...here's more. Personally, I think that the more dubious a person is with what I've posted, the more that person has probably lost at casinos, such that it makes sense that he espouses the theory of, "I can't win, so nobody can." 🤩

These are trip reports. Day by day, win by win, I post what happens. I tell it like it is.
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March 17th, 2020 at 6:10:03 PM permalink
Wow, so all these MDawg wins tipped the scales over? 😜
https://www.stationcasinosinfo.com/
ALL of them closing? All Nevada casinos.
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well done..ty
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March 17th, 2020 at 11:24:02 PM permalink
Thanks Coach.

I was thinking about the +$20,600. figure Cosmo has me down for 2020. The entirety of play I did at Cosmo this year was over these five days, because the prior Dec 2019 - Jan 2020 trip we did not go to Cosmo at all:

As reported in these two posts
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/113/#post759811
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/113/#post759812
we have:

2/28/2020
Cosmo Day 1 ($6400. win)
$8000. marker paid

2/29/2020
Cosmo Day 2 ($14,100. win)
$8000. marker paid

3/1/2020
Cosmo Day 3 ($300.)
$8000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid

3/2/2020 ($1000. win)
$8000. marker paid
$20000. marker paid

3/3/2020 ($1000. win)
$8000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid
$10000. marker paid

By the way, these winnings were reported by me as they happened, session by session, day by day, posted WEEKS ago at the other forums where I was posting while I was not posting here. At the time I was posting them, I didn't even know that Cosmo would update my winnings so quickly, and I had no idea that it would post a 2020 Win/Loss even before the year was out. I also had no plans to post a video of my win/loss portal online. Point being that I just post stuff as it happens, in real time, not with some eye to the future of someday corroboration. It's much easier to just report the truth than to make something up, and by posting the truth I don't have to think about what I am posting, just tell it like it is.

Anyway, as you may see in the video, Cosmo has me down for $20,600. This makes sense in a way, because that encompasses the first three days of play $6400. win, $14,100. win, $300. win, which equals $20,800. but they have $20,600., I mean close enough.

But what is interesting, is that they somehow missed entirely the grand times two I won at the two subsequent sessions. But I am sure those pit bosses at those last two sessions turned in my play as it is because of all that play over six nights that they comp'ed that 1200 square foot wrap around terrace suite, all the food and even all the spa/massage/treatments, and entered me into the Baccarat tournament free. I just wonder how the pit bosses could have missed the two grand I walked from the table with those last two sessions.

All the pit bosses also missed all the chips I tipped out. Evidently, the first three sessions the pit bosses simply looked at what chips I walked with, and got it right, within a couple hundred dollars, but didn't bother to consider what their table was missing - all the chips that had ended up in the dealer's toke box via my dealer side bets. And somehow they also had missed the two yellows I had taken from the last two sessions.

I always knew that these win/loss statements were not entirely accurate over a decade ago, but I figured that these days they were closer to 100% right on. Evidently not so. I'd say that they are often close to 100% right, but clearly not always so.

And this explains also why you will never get a W2G for table games winnings - no one is able to attest under penalty of perjury that you won exactly that amount. So while those three casinos have me down for about a 76K win, the actual number is higher.
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March 19th, 2020 at 10:05:11 AM permalink
Quote: PokerGrinder

PokerGrinder doesn’t believe that Mdawg looks 25


You don't think so?

But with all gyms closed for two weeks, how to stay in shape....

I miss Vegas. How long will it be before I'm able to stand on this balcony again.
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March 19th, 2020 at 10:13:31 AM permalink
If the mayor has her way, less than two weeks!
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March 19th, 2020 at 11:19:22 AM permalink
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If the mayor has her way, less than two weeks!



There is no mayor of the Strip. Almost every non downtown casino is not under the Mayor of Las Vegas's jurisdiction.
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March 19th, 2020 at 2:59:49 PM permalink
https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/the-baccarat-machine-19176
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If the mayor has her way, less than two weeks!


In the meantime wish someone would post some nice video of the plywood boarded up casino doors along the strip. Saw a bit of it here

but some more closeup video during the daytime would be nice.
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https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/the-baccarat-machine-19176

You should ask Kelly what she thinks about your consistent Baccarat winning playing a negative advantage.
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March 19th, 2020 at 8:11:09 PM permalink
You decided it's negative? As far as I've experienced, it's all positive!
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March 20th, 2020 at 12:32:58 AM permalink
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You decided it's negative? As far as I've experienced, it's all positive!

ANYTHING is possible, there's people out there that hit the lottery, and even Megabucks multiple times.

You may very well have you been the luckiest person in the world thus far. Of course, we don't know what your lifetime results have been. There's all kinds of people that have systems that fail miserably, they may quit for a while and eventually emerged the new system. They mentally erase all their prior losses and start again. Rinse repeat. If at some point the end up going on a lucky run they well now believe they have found the Holy Grail.

For argument's sake, let's just say you are winning overall(for now). As long as you and others realize this is not due to any type of skill whatsoever it's just dumb luck. It cannot be recreated by anyone else, it cannot be taught to anyone else, there's a slim chance that will happen to anybody else. Your baccarat experience will not help anybody else profit.
However, there is a chance your stories will inspire others to play Baccarat thinking they too can live the Vegas comp life while making a profit playing a negative expectation game. A dream that ends up becoming a disaster for them.
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Quote: AxelWolf

ANYTHING is possible, there's people out there that hit the lottery, and even Megabucks multiple times.

You may very well have you been the luckiest person in the world thus far. Of course, we don't know what your lifetime results have been. There's all kinds of people that have systems that fail miserably, they may quit for a while and eventually emerged the new system. They mentally erase all their prior losses and start again. Rinse repeat. If at some point the end up going on a lucky run they well now believe they have found the Holy Grail.

For argument's sake let's just say you are winning overall(for now). As long as you and others realize this is not due to any type of skill whatsoever it's just dumb luck. It cannot be recreated by anyone else, it cannot be taught to anyone else, there's a slim chance that will happen to anybody else. Your baccarat experience will not help anybody else profit.
However, there is a chance your stories will inspire others to play Baccarat thinking they too can live the Vegas comp life while making a profit playing a negative expectation game that ends up becoming a disaster for them.



I hate to say it but I just watched Mcmillions

Lots of people who knew each other were able to beat a game with odds against them off 250,000,000 to one

Similarly, one watches the Cincinnati Kid and instinctively knows the odds of the ending are evidence of something unsavory

Is it possible for someone to consistently beat a negative expectation game? Absolutely.

Historically, there are reasons why.
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March 20th, 2020 at 2:45:44 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I hate to say it but I just watched Mcmillions

Lots of people who knew each other were able to beat a game with odds against them off 250,000,000 to one

Similarly, one watches the Cincinnati Kid and instinctively knows the odds of the ending are evidence of something unsavory

Is it possible for someone to consistently beat a negative expectation game? Absolutely.

Historically, there are reasons why.

It looks like I may have missed some clues of what you were trying to get at. I Feel like I'm in one of those situations where I think I get what you're trying to say, but I'm not sure. It's possible I missed the mark(no pun intended) completely.
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March 20th, 2020 at 10:19:43 AM permalink
On one of the other forums someone was pointing out that he thought that casinos used RFID to track your win loss and so he was surprised that they missed the two yellow chips I won on the two sessions.

As far as the chips, the $5000. and higher Baccarat chips at the Wynn/Encore have a serial number on them. (I couldn't find a pic of Wynn chips from my recent play, but I do post some pics of other chips below.) But - what this serial number is good for, I couldn't tell you. Whether the Wynn really knows who has what exact $5K chip at any given moment, is unclear.

There is no serial number on the $5000. or even $25,000 Baccarat chips at the Cosmopolitan, and at the Palms, I haven't handled a $25K Baccarat chip but their $5K Baccarat chips not only have no serial number but even come across as rather phony - flimsy in weight, and unimpressive in coloring.

Same with Treasure Island $5K chips, no special marking, no serial numbers.

As far as RFID or serial number tracing, a friend of mine says that he had two $5000. WYNN chips and some other property stolen from his room at another resort last year. He filed a report with the hotel and he was led to believe that the Wynn was going to trace them from his casino tableside win to show that they were never cashed and to reimburse him, but when push came to shove the Wynn casino did not help him or reimburse him and all he got back was a statutorily capped $1500. payout from the resort where he was staying at's hotel insurance carrier ($750. for the chips stolen, and $750. for his personal property stolen). This leads me to believe that RFID is not as much a factor in casinos as one would think.

Also, whenever I am playing, the pit bosses seem to be very fanatical about keeping track of my bigger bets and entering them into their screens, and also pretty strict about recording exactly how many chips I walk from the table with, which makes me wonder how they missed the two yellow chip wins, but also convinces me that that bet tracking is done visually not via any RFID. Whenever I make a huge bet after I am done with the afterglow of winning it, I start crowing at the pit boss to remind him to be sure to enter that huge bet into their system. It's more of a ritualized comedy routine than anything else - I bet a huge stack of yellows, I win, and then I start joking about making sure they log the bet, or make some joke about how I want a "discount" on the commission "for this bet only" if I won on the Bank. Another joke I love tossing out there is when I haven't opened my sixth card yet on a situation where the opposing side has already hit to zero. "I'll take five hundred to walk!" I quip, referring to how much I'll take on a discounted basis if the casino will just pay me now to not even look at my cards, versus opening, winning, and getting paid my full bet. In all my years of play, only one pit boss, years ago, has picked up on it - declaring, "I'll give you five hundred to walk!" after the other side had hit to zero on a thousand dollar bet of mine, and before I had a chance to look at my draw or even say a word. The guy must have been standing there the whole shoe, waiting for his chance to toss my own line back at me.




Take a look also at this article:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/bellagio-bandit-how-one-man-robbed-vegas-biggest-casino-and-almost-got-away-105349/
it's quite a great read, and shows how hard it is to trace chips.

When the story first came out, it was put out there
https://singularityhub.com/2011/02/12/1-5m-robbery-of-bellagio-casino-foiled-thanks-to-rfid-chips/
that all of the stolen chips were RFID deactivated, but the subsequent 2016 article I posted above from Rolling Stone, makes clear otherwise.
By the way, that article mentions that "Somewhere deep in the Bellagio’s computer system was a list of all the men and women who had ever gambled high enough stakes to have legitimately won so many big chips" and my name is on that list, as there was one trip in particular where I amassed a Baccarat win over a period of days of twelve of these $25,000. "melons" is what I called them, due to their color at that time that I was winning them right and left in my very high rolling days (early 2000s).
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March 22nd, 2020 at 7:16:23 PM permalink
Well I guess no one here knows anything about how the RFID works in the high denomination chips, judging from the lack of response. But - that may be exactly the way the casinos want it - what people don't know, they can't circumvent!


Just got off the phone with a friend who is looking forward to Memorial Day weekend in Vegas. Too much to hope for?

Some say that Vegas will be one of the safest places to be, crisis or no crisis.
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March 23rd, 2020 at 2:58:37 PM permalink
Given home confinement in California, the Adventures of MDawg currently include Arnold's in home workout:
https://generationiron.com/arnold-schwarzenegger-home-workout/

Pushups
Beginner: 25 Reps
Advanced: 50 Reps

Dips between chairs
Beginner: 20 Reps
Advanced: 50 Reps

Row between chairs
Beginner: 30 Reps
Advanced: 50 Reps

Sit-ups
Beginner: 30 Reps
Advanced: 100 Reps

Bent-leg raises
Beginner: 25 Reps
Advanced: 50 Reps

Bent-over twists
Beginner: 25 Reps
Advanced: 50 Reps

Knee bends (squats)
Beginner: 25 Reps
Advanced: 50-70 Reps

Calf raises
Beginner: 25 Reps
Advanced: 50 Reps

Chin-ups
Beginner: 10 Reps
Advanced: 30 Reps

Those are all easy enough to do at home, so long as you have basic human furniture like a couple of chairs around. The chin-ups though, I am not sure where Arnold is proposing that we do these. We never bothered to set up a full gym at home although we do have a life cycle.
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