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April 20th, 2018 at 10:44:53 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Welcome back, Ace!

If you have half a day (and a significant number of brain cells) to kill, you can take a look at ZK's D-Day in Vegas thread.

Or, TL/DR: ZK moved to Vegas a few months ago to count cards. When he wins, he is the smartest, cleverest, most awesome human being to ever walk the earth. When he loses, he is obviously being cheated, mainly by the casinos that use Chinese pre-shuffled decks (because obviously, these decks are deficient in the number of 10's and A's as they don't spread them out on the table for all to see). This is the basis for all "China"/"Chinese" references.

Also, casino personnel, and a few of us spies here at WoV are out to get him. :P

Now that you're caught up, please get back to the tables and kick some Ace! :)



Thanks for the welcome wishes and the TL/DR summary of ChinaGate

I am just waking up and plan to be slow and steady on the climb back to even and beyond
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April 20th, 2018 at 10:46:44 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

The dealer / player dynamic can lead to feelings of quasi-familiarity which in turn can lead one to ask questions one would not normally ask a stranger.

Not sure how you were coiffed at that moment, but viewing your pic in the VLOG I can understand his curiosity; your styling choice is different.

Nothing wrong with that, but I can see how it could be a conversation starter for a dealer.



HAHA wasn't the dealer - it was the pit boos or whatever they are called these days

Also, had someone comment on Trooper's vlog about it

Not sure what is so "different" about my hairstyle - oh well
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April 20th, 2018 at 11:08:41 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

Have you seen the back of your own car? It makes for a strong "homeless" case =). Trolling you was too easy:

Romes: "omg I found black chips back here!"
RS: "REALLY?!?!?!"
Romes: "(laughing)... no..."

So you tried to lure him into the back seat by claiming you found black chips.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 11:14:04 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

HAHA wasn't the dealer - it was the pit boos or whatever they are called these days

Also, had someone comment on Trooper's vlog about it

Not sure what is so "different" about my hairstyle - oh well

I'm sure Romes and a few others are loving all the Vidal Sassoon talk but I fear many of us are not.

Let's get to the good stuff already.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 11:21:31 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

So you tried to lure him into the back seat by claiming you found black chips.

I was already in his back seat... so who lured who...

Sucks to hear the first session went the way of the house AOS. Hopefully you can get the good variance swing back on your side!
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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April 20th, 2018 at 11:22:46 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I'm sure Romes and a few others are loving all the Vidal Sassoon talk but I fear many of us are not.

Let's get to the good stuff already.



Axel - come on - you know my threads take on a life of their own - and not much happened while I was sleeping
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April 20th, 2018 at 11:24:09 AM permalink
Quote: Romes

I was already in his back seat... so who lured who...

Sucks to hear the first session went the way of the house AOS. Hopefully you can get the good variance swing back on your side!



Yeah the second session went well (after going bad initially) -- I just wanted to play and get back in the groove of blackjack -- it's always amazing that I seem to be playing catch up from the outset of most trips
Today is a new day
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April 20th, 2018 at 12:50:46 PM permalink
Ace, are you still over betting your BR?
I remember 4-5 years ago you would have
a $15K BR and make bets like it was $50K. This
is why you had devastating sessions where
you would lose $7500 in an hour. And feed
my schadenfreude..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 20th, 2018 at 12:55:10 PM permalink
So, what are your thoughts on the Giordano's Pizza????
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April 20th, 2018 at 1:46:19 PM permalink
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So, what are your thoughts on the Giordano's Pizza????



nothing special
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April 20th, 2018 at 2:04:28 PM permalink
Tasty, but expensive. I make a trip out there 2-4 times a year, whenever somebody in my party gets their annual free birthday month pizza.
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April 20th, 2018 at 2:24:53 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

I was already in his back seat... so who lured who...

I have no doubt by the end of the night you were both having a ride with each other in the back seat.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 2:45:06 PM permalink
Quote: FCBLComish

So, what are your thoughts on the Giordano's Pizza????



It was my first time having Chicago style pizza - it was very good - I would definitely recommend it -- the cheese was great
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April 20th, 2018 at 2:49:28 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

It was my first time having Chicago style pizza - it was very good - I would definitely recommend it -- the cheese was great



You're staying at Cosmo, were you able to charge your room? Or are those restaurants outside Ballys independent of Caesars?
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April 20th, 2018 at 2:52:42 PM permalink
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You're staying at Cosmo, were you able to charge your room? Or are those restaurants outside Ballys independent of Caesars?



Cromwell -- nah I just paid cash
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April 20th, 2018 at 2:54:11 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Cromwell -- nah I just paid cash



I meant Cromwell, my question didn't make sense as is lol. Ok, thanks!
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April 20th, 2018 at 3:15:41 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Anyone deal with prolonged insomnia and altered sleep schedules? For the past 6 months, my body has somehow converted to being nocturnal. Some days I sleep 3 hours -- then the next day I will sleep 15 hours -- I have tried sleeping pills but they leave me in a fog the next day - I really want to get back to a normal schedule ( you know, sleeping 11pm - 7am ± )

Like right now, I am wide awake and thinking of going to play, but then, I can foresee myself sleeping all day and losing out on a day in Vegas by staying in bed



#metoo.

If i have a regular schedule like a job or when i was in high school i am usually tired all the time and often spend most of my off days sleeping.

One thing that helps, but doesn't solve it completely, is melatonin.
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April 20th, 2018 at 4:02:45 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

#metoo.

If i have a regular schedule like a job or when i was in high school i am usually tired all the time and often spend most of my off days sleeping.

One thing that helps, but doesn't solve it completely, is melatonin.



Melatonin has worked for me but always feel foggy the next day
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April 20th, 2018 at 4:07:20 PM permalink
Alright - just played a session:

25min
2D
DOA
DAS
H17
No surrender


Played with a lady sitting at the table already - I sat at 1st base
Pushed the first hand of 20
Both the other lady and I lost every other hand in the shuffle
-125

Next shuffle - nothing really to report as the losing continued until the lady at the table had had enough and left - leaving me to play alone, now down 175 out of my 250 buy in

With only 75 left of the buy in I went for broke and put up the 75 -- won the hand
Next hand I put up 50 - got dealt a 9,2 v dealer King -- doubled - dealer busted - I was back to my buy in of 250

Another gentleman sat down at 3rd base, from Boston, and the dealer had or made a 20 on the first 7 hands straight - luckily, I had 21 on 4 of those occasions WOOHOO
By the endow that shuffle, I was +100 for the session and took a break for some caffeine

Trip is now -2150
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April 20th, 2018 at 4:30:05 PM permalink
I was just walking on the Strip and one of the S&M cops with the whip hit me in the a$$ with her whip as I walked by - I neither requested it nor welcomed it - if one of the shirtless men who pose for photos on the Strip smacked a woman on the a$$ as she walked by - society would be outraged - Ace gets whipped and people walking by smiles and giggled
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April 20th, 2018 at 4:30:36 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Played with a lady sitting at the table already



Dressed in red?
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April 20th, 2018 at 5:15:00 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

I was just walking on the Strip and one of the S&M cops with the whip hit me in the a$$ with her whip as I walked by - I neither requested it nor welcomed it - if one of the shirtless men who pose for photos on the Strip smacked a woman on the a$$ as she walked by - society would be outraged - Ace gets whipped and people walking by smiles and giggled

People pay lots of money for that sh*t. You get it for free and you're complaining?

Must be a lawyer thing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 5:26:27 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

People pay lots of money for that sh*t. You get it for free and you're complaining?

Must be a lawyer thing.



Merely pointing out a societal double standard
Feminists scream that women and men are equal
Yet, when it comes to the #metoo movement - men and women are NOT equal
#doublestandard much?
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April 20th, 2018 at 5:26:41 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Dressed in red?



HAHA haven't seen her yet
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April 20th, 2018 at 5:39:12 PM permalink
Outrageous ! You are more than a piece of meat, uh, except to possibly some Forum members.

I will not name names unless it is an AP move !
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April 20th, 2018 at 5:50:36 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Merely pointing out a societal double standard
Feminists scream that women and men are equal



Look at oral sex. They'll gladly take it as
often as you offer it. Try seeing how
much that standard applies when you
want it. If it's not your Bday or Xmas
Eve or they're trying to get you to
propose, forget it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 20th, 2018 at 6:16:19 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Merely pointing out a societal double standard
Feminists scream that women and men are equal
Yet, when it comes to the #metoo movement - men and women are NOT equal
#doublestandard much?

Of course there's a double standard. For instance, on TV and movies whenever a woman slaps a man it's funny or he deserved it kinda thing, and it's acceptable.

If a chick checks out her ex-boyfriends FB page or whatever, it's you go girl, but whenever a man does it, it's stalking.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 6:19:24 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Look at oral sex. They'll gladly take it as
often as you offer it. Try seeing how
much that standard applies when you
want it. If it's not your Bday or Xmas
Eve or they're trying to get you to
propose, forget it.



LOL

Poor Even Bob.

Has to do the rattlesnake shake
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April 20th, 2018 at 6:24:08 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Look at oral sex. They'll gladly take it as
often as you offer it. Try seeing how
much that standard applies when you
want it. If it's not your Bday or Xmas
Eve or they're trying to get you to
propose, forget it.



Sounds more like a you problem than a them problem.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
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April 20th, 2018 at 6:31:21 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Of course there's a double standard. For instance, on TV and movies whenever a woman slaps a man it's funny or he deserved it kinda thing, and it's acceptable.

If a chick checks out her ex-boyfriends FB page or whatever, it's you go girl, but whenever a man does it, it's stalking.



Preach on Brother Axel
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April 20th, 2018 at 6:40:54 PM permalink
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Have you seen the back of your own car? It makes for a strong "homeless" case =). Trolling you was too easy:

Romes: "omg I found black chips back here!"
RS: "REALLY?!?!?!"
Romes: "(laughing)... no..."


Bruh I "cleaned" out my car the other day (basically cleaned about 5% of it) and I found $1400 in chips. Unfortunately I don't really know where I put them. I'm sure they'll turn up sometime or another.
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April 20th, 2018 at 7:02:59 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Bruh I "cleaned" out my car the other day (basically cleaned about 5% of it) and I found $1400 in chips. Unfortunately I don't really know where I put them. I'm sure they'll turn up sometime or another.




Can I get a TL/DR of this story?
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April 20th, 2018 at 8:27:08 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Can I get a TL/DR of this story?


That pretty much was it. Some people like Romes think my car might be messy. It’s not messy. It just has a different layout than most people are used to. Romes probably just gonna lie and say it’s messy, there was a decomposing raccoon in the back, etc. etc.
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April 20th, 2018 at 8:31:26 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

LOL

Poor Even Bob.



It's hardly just me. A majority of men
say they got it all the time until they
got married and then it stopped
entirely. If you listen to men, they
have been complaining about this
forever. You hear it all the time on
call in radio shows and in advice
columns.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 20th, 2018 at 8:42:32 PM permalink
That implies that women are crafty, devious, and use sex as a weapon.
"What, me worry?"
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April 20th, 2018 at 8:56:14 PM permalink
Sat down to play at a 25min table
Right from the start the dealer was pulling hands left and right - then some guy sat down and decided he wouldn’t double or split any hands nor would he hit on any 14-15-16 v dealer 10 - he was quickly wiped but, so was I - lost the 350 I had gained back earlier in about 10 mins

trip is -2500
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April 20th, 2018 at 9:10:27 PM permalink
Switched tables
Dealer had a 12 five times during the shuffle and pulled a 9 all five times

WTF
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April 20th, 2018 at 9:12:37 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

- lost the 350 I had gained back earlier in about 10 mins trip is -2500



But how did you feel about this,
did you want to kick a small
child? Think about me Ace,
you forget this is all about me
and my schaden..

lol
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 20th, 2018 at 9:14:28 PM permalink
Bob - you are the sole reason I even gamble - I long to make your day with schadenfreude - and, although I was calm last night - I did say a few choice words when the dealer pulled the 9 on five occasions in the same shuffle

Simply amazing
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April 20th, 2018 at 9:49:52 PM permalink
This is sounding a lot like my last trip. Couldn't catch a break at any table anywhere; I was working on my TR badges for the bonus points, so I just walked the Strip, hit every CET property and basically hurled money into a bottomless pit for the afternoon. That suffering finished, I returned to where I was staying, plopped myself down at a 6:5 VBJ unit (one of those blue ones I can't identify the maker of) with 50, and ended up leaving like four hours later, having learned that the machine locks up and forces a handpay at 5000. I've been trying pretty hard to ignore how much I'm losing by getting my BJs cut short, but at the same time, my bankroll can't deny that it's been far less frustrating.

As other people keep reminding me, "If it isn't working, stop doing it and try something else. The worst that can happen is that doesn't work either."
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April 20th, 2018 at 10:16:51 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Bruh I "cleaned" out my car the other day (basically cleaned about 5% of it) and I found $1400 in chips. Unfortunately I don't really know where I put them. I'm sure they'll turn up sometime or another.

With the finders keepers rule in effect it's defiantly +EV ridding in your car(especially for Romes with all the extracurricular activities).
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 10:21:33 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It's hardly just me. A majority of men
say they got it all the time until they
got married and then it stopped
entirely. If you listen to men, they
have been complaining about this
forever. You hear it all the time on
call in radio shows and in advice
columns.

You got to learn how to make them think you don't want it as much as they do and that you're not all sprung over their goods. In turn, they will be begging you for it.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 10:30:24 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It's hardly just me. A majority of men
say they got it all the time until they
got married and then it stopped
entirely. If you listen to men, they
have been complaining about this
forever. You hear it all the time on
call in radio shows and in advice
columns.



Generally, this is only true if you are not bringing it.
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April 20th, 2018 at 10:32:13 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Preach on Brother Axel

We would need an entire new thread just for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaSy8yy-mr8

Reverse the rolls on this song (there are even much better examples out there) and women would be all upset and boycott it.

I guess rap can be harsh on women.

I know you are sensitive to all this, especially after that butch chick beat you up at the gas station or whatever(-;.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 10:33:07 PM permalink
Sat down at a double deck game - I had four 20s in the shuffle - dealer made a blackjack on three of them and a 21 on the other
The first hand of the next shuffle i had 50 up and dealt an 8,3 v dealer 5
This idiot says: “This is a guaranteed win” - which, I knew, meant I would lose - he turned over a 9 then dealt himself a 7 for 21 - he turned over my face down card and it was, naturally, a 3

Trip is -2900
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April 20th, 2018 at 10:51:02 PM permalink
Walked over to Flamingo - 100min - won 1k in one showe -taking a break as I have not eaten the entire day

Trip is -1900
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April 20th, 2018 at 11:10:42 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Trip is -2900



If you were at the Revel, you would be
punching out the glass of a Beverly
Hillbillies slot. It's age, Ace, you're
losing the angry edge..
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April 20th, 2018 at 11:19:00 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It's age, Ace, you're
losing the angry edge..

So as you age the anger just turns into curmudgeonliness?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 20th, 2018 at 11:30:43 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

We would need an entire new thread just for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaSy8yy-mr8

Reverse the rolls on this song (there are even much better examples out there) and women would be all upset and boycott it.

I guess rap can be harsh on women.

I know you are sensitive to all this, especially after that butch chick beat you up at the gas station or whatever(-;.



LOL nobody beat me up at a gas station - you are referring to this story:

Gas station story
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