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April 19th, 2018 at 3:32:23 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Blackjack? Pl hollywood has several 3-2 tables open during the day and during the night they open the pit next to hi-limit which consists of five 3-2 8 deck shoes and 1 DD 3-2 game.



Yeah I was speaking only of the high limit pit where they have S17
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:32:48 PM permalink
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I bet you did it improperly and had short fasting cycles and not one big meal at night.



Why would I lie?
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:35:22 PM permalink
this advice for a huge meal at night, ribs even! .... that's young people talking here

when you get older, they tell you the complete opposite

http://easylivingfl.com/why-do-elderly-parents-eat-dinner-at-4pm/

actually I am too old to be eating the way I do, and often get indigestion at night
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:40:50 PM permalink
Aos I am glad that you are finally enjoying your trips. Remember when you would post about only playing and not doing anything fun or eating. We all told you to take a break from gaming and enjoy the comps that you can get. It appears that you have started doing that and I bet your trips are so much better. I even heard you on a podcast and it seems like you have even gone a few days without playing. I hope you enjoy going even more now.
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:41:26 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Why would I lie?



Tell me the fasting regimen you used please. You also probably didnt eat a big enough meal either.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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April 19th, 2018 at 3:52:15 PM permalink
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

[pauses]

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know; that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, *saves lives*. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a *damn* what you think you are entitled to!
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April 19th, 2018 at 4:11:38 PM permalink
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Aos I am glad that you are finally enjoying your trips. Remember when you would post about only playing and not doing anything fun or eating. We all told you to take a break from gaming and enjoy the comps that you can get. It appears that you have started doing that and I bet your trips are so much better. I even heard you on a podcast and it seems like you have even gone a few days without playing. I hope you enjoy going even more now.




Yeah - I have gone months without playing lately as well - I see casino visits as weekend getaways now as opposed to blackjack marathons
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April 19th, 2018 at 4:12:25 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Tell me the fasting regimen you used please. You also probably didnt eat a big enough meal either.



You are probably right about everything - I defer to your knowledge
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April 19th, 2018 at 4:13:21 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

[pauses]

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know; that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, *saves lives*. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a *damn* what you think you are entitled to!




Great movie and great quote - but what are you using it for herein?
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April 19th, 2018 at 4:56:41 PM permalink































And, the most precious commodity at Cromwell:






https://imgur.com/nrqsNkp

https://imgur.com/rIb8TGL
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April 19th, 2018 at 4:56:46 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

STOP eating during the day.



Become a vampire and switch to an "all liquid" night time diet; got it.
"What, me worry?"
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:17:27 PM permalink
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Become a vampire and switch to an "all liquid" night time diet; got it.



Chicks dig vampires
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:18:19 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

You are probably right about everything - I defer to your knowledge



Good one Ace, you really are a lawyer.
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:23:13 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

And, the most precious commodity at Cromwell:




It's a tip thing, Ace, Every time they
bring ice most guests will tip them.
Sex in the ice room, ridiculous. It's
another way to gouge the guests.
Imagine how many ice requests
they get a day.
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:25:32 PM permalink
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Good one Ace, you really are a lawyer.



God help me if I should ever get trespassed
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:25:58 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: aceofspades

And, the most precious commodity at Cromwell:




It's a tip thing, Ace, Every time they
bring ice most guests will tip them.
Sex in the ice room, ridiculous. It's
another way to gouge the guests.
Imagine how many ice requests
they get a day.



Yeah - shouldn't ice be part of the room rate/resort fee
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:41:46 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

God help me if I should ever get trespassed


You'll only get trespasssed if you blame your losses on rigged, Chinese prison decks.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:44:23 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

You'll only get trespasssed if you blame your losses on rigged, Chinese prison decks.



But, I always do that
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:53:08 PM permalink
based on those pictures you did a lot of walking
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April 19th, 2018 at 5:54:43 PM permalink
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based on those pictures you did a lot of walking



Yeah getting my exercise on :)

Going to have dinner about 7 then hit the tables tonight
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April 19th, 2018 at 6:01:57 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Great movie and great quote - but what are you using it for herein?

Just goofin' a bit. At one point here it felt like ZKG wanted to put you on the stand for a cross examination about your fasting regimen, you're a lawyer, who doesn't love Jack Nicholson, etc, etc. Maybe a more appropriate quote would have been when Tom Cruise's character was saying something like "I deserve the truth"...
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April 19th, 2018 at 6:04:02 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

Just goofin' a bit. At one point here it felt like ZKG wanted to put you on the stand for a cross examination about your eating/fasting, you're a lawyer, who doesn't love Jack Nicholson, etc, etc. Maybe a more appropriate quote would have been when Tom Cruise's character was saying something like "I deserve the truth"...



I'll await the legal debate on Wilkinson’s case
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April 19th, 2018 at 6:12:24 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades



Yeah - shouldn't ice be part of the room rate/resort fee



Try not tipping the ice jockey and see how
long it takes to get ice next time.
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April 19th, 2018 at 6:16:32 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


5:26



You looked younger in the Millionaire Bachelor video,
Ace, what's up with that. You've never been married,
it's supposed to keep you eternally young..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 19th, 2018 at 6:20:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You looked younger in the Millionaire Bachelor video,
Ace, what's up with that. You've never been married,
it's supposed to keep you eternally young..



Bob - it’s been 8 years - am I not allowed to age at all?
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April 19th, 2018 at 7:50:25 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Bob - it’s been 8 years - am I not allowed to age at all?



Nope. Quit it..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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April 19th, 2018 at 8:38:04 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Bob - it’s been 8 years - am I not allowed to age at all?

I hear drinking milk from a virgin helps
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
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April 19th, 2018 at 9:05:00 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

I hear drinking milk from a virgin helps



Is there an App for that?
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April 19th, 2018 at 9:07:50 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Nope. Quit it..



Maybe I can win enough money for Botox injections
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April 19th, 2018 at 9:08:17 PM permalink
Had dinner at The Palms, now back at my hotel - going to relax a few minutes then head to the tables
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April 19th, 2018 at 9:42:25 PM permalink
13 pages of posts, and not one mention of a blackjack session yet. Wow! Welcome back, and have fun while you are in town.

Quote: aceofspades

You are probably right about everything - I defer to your knowledge

Best post (so far) in this thread.


Quote: Romes

Actually, true... Just get a bit drunk and eat a pound or two of ribs. You'll pass out and snooze hard for a full nights sleep =).

That would definitely give you the "itis", and could lead to "MB" (old Chappelle show joke).





#Icegate Theory #3: People kept putting their feet into the machines. :)

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April 19th, 2018 at 10:04:15 PM permalink
Played 2 shoes
won a total of 8 hands
lost every double down
lost every split
lost every time I pressed
dealer had 7 naturals in the 2 shoes -- I had none
-2500 in 10 minutes

FML

Nothing else to report - it was quick and painful

There you go Bob - you must be extremely happy/ecstatic/jumping for joy right now
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:00:36 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Played 2 shoes
won a total of 8 hands
lost every double down
lost every split
lost every time I pressed
dealer had 7 naturals in the 2 shoes -- I had none
-2500 in 10 minutes

FML

Nothing else to report - it was quick and painful

There you go Bob - you must be extremely happy/ecstatic/jumping for joy right now



Odds of 7 dealer naturals before a player natural (assuming one spot played): 127 to 1. Bad way to start the trip.
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:09:03 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

Odds of 7 dealer naturals before a player natural (assuming one spot played): 127 to 1. Bad way to start the trip.



Indeed - I could not catch a break
What happened to variance?
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:13:49 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

There you go Bob - you must be extremely happy/ecstatic/jumping for joy right now



No no no, you don't understand schadenfreude.
It's when you start checking the windows in
your room on the 25th floor to see if they are
really screwed shut. 2500, that's the
proverbial chicken feed..
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:18:59 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Played 2 shoes
won a total of 8 hands
lost every double down
lost every split
lost every time I pressed
dealer had 7 naturals in the 2 shoes -- I had none
-2500 in 10 minutes

FML

Nothing else to report - it was quick and painful

There you go Bob - you must be extremely happy/ecstatic/jumping for joy right now



Welcome to ChinaTown.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:37:18 PM permalink
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Welcome to ChinaTown.



I know China is a leader in high technology and AI but how do the Chinese prisons anticipate where the U.S. casino customers will place the cut card in their rigged decks?
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:38:02 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

I know China is a leader in high technology and AI but how do the Chinese prisons anticipate where the U.S. casino customers will place the cut card in their rigged decks?



Go ask Sum Ting Wong how he does it.
Any private business open to the PUBLIC (ie. droned out casinos) cannot have a criminal trespass enforced against an individual without GOOD CAUSE (Disruptive or Disorderly conduct). You will never go to prison for being thrown out of a casino for legal advantage play and then returning because it's simply unconstitutional 'as applied' to the individual. 'As applied' constitutional issues must FIRST be raised in DISTRICT COURT (trial court) to have it thrown out. You CANNOT raise it on APPEAL This is the best kept secret in the world of casinos not just in Vegas but everywhere in the country. Thank me later.
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:50:10 PM permalink
Quote: ZenKinG

Go ask Sum Ting Wong how he does it.



The accountant in charge of your bankroll must be Wi Tu Lo
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April 19th, 2018 at 11:51:55 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Played 2 shoes
won a total of 8 hands
lost every double down
lost every split
lost every time I pressed
dealer had 7 naturals in the 2 shoes -- I had none
-2500 in 10 minutes

FML

Nothing else to report - it was quick and painful

There you go Bob - you must be extremely happy/ecstatic/jumping for joy right now


Damn you play fast.
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April 20th, 2018 at 1:14:42 AM permalink
The ZenKing/Sodawater debate is above my pay grade -- anyone want to catch me up to speed on China Town?
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April 20th, 2018 at 1:15:41 AM permalink
Quote: Keeneone

13 pages of posts, and not one mention of a blackjack session yet. Wow! Welcome back, and have fun while you are in town.

Best post (so far) in this thread.


That would definitely give you the "itis", and could lead to "MB" (old Chappelle show joke).





#Icegate Theory #3: People kept putting their feet into the machines. :)



Literally laughed out loud at the "itis" and The Office references
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April 20th, 2018 at 1:16:48 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

What happened to variance?

You just had some $:o)
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April 20th, 2018 at 1:25:38 AM permalink
OK OK OK - I relaxed the room for a bit then decided I would take 500 down and just play at a 25 table

The first table I sat at there was a woman at first base - another gentleman in the middle seat and I took 3rd base - the game was:
2D
DOA
DAS
H17
No surrender

Bought in for 500 and after about 20 minutes was still ± 75

Then two drunk guys came in and stated they were not going to interrupt the game and would wait for the next shuffle -- that lasted less than 3 seconds as they both pushed chips into the betting circle (they each had about 60 in red chips)
Naturally, they were inebriated and had no idea why the dealer was pitching them the cards face down - they kept picking them up with both hands - and, when the dealer admonished them - one of them replied "Don't tell me what to do" -- of course, they both won their first 3 hands then they both let it ride on the 4th hand and were wiped out -- they left stating "Good, we didn't want to play that stupid game anyway" #classy

After they left, we resumed and, during the next shuffle, the lady at first base made a mistake - she thought she had 8.5 but she had 8,3 (which she didn't realize until after the hand played out and she lost) - that sucks

A few shuffles later, I was down about 250 and the gentleman in the middle seat decided to try his luck at another table - so, with just the lady at first base and I still playing, the blackjack gods began to smile upon her and from at me - after the next shuffle, I was down 400, with 100 left of my 500 session buy in -- I decided to take a walk through the casino and take a few deep breaths

After about 15 minutes, I found a table occupied by a young guy and his friend - they seemed friendly and asked if I might wait for the next shuffle before coming in - sure, no problem

Finally shuffled up, I lost the first three hands and was down to my last green chip from my 500 buy in - I won the next 5 hands, began to press and even won a couple of double downs -- over the course of the next few shuffles, I had not only regained the 500 buy in - but, another 250 as well -- so, for the trip - I am -2250

An aside:

The pit critter motioned to me as I colored up the chips and asked me: "Hey, what's up with your hair?" - I replied - "What do you mean?" - he said - "It's all crazy and out of place" - I looked at him quizzically and asked him what that had to do with anything - this was the second time today that a male commented don my hair - I don't get it - is that now a thing to do? WTF‽ Why would another man care what some other guys hairstyle was???
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April 20th, 2018 at 2:00:05 AM permalink
Someone said I looked like a homeless version of myself after I tried to cut my hair once. I guess it’s a new fad?
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April 20th, 2018 at 2:03:31 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Someone said I looked like a homeless version of myself after I tried to cut my hair once. I guess it’s a new fad?



Very strange but I guess, in 2018, men are allowed to comment on another man's appearance

Spoke to some females at the Cromwell and they all said:
"Whoever said that is jealous and probably balding"
LOLOL

#NoBaldShaming b.c I don't give a sh*t what other men look like

Just weird, especially for a pit critter to pull me aside like that - especially after he told me he was only going to rate me at 25/hand when I was playing 50/hand and I had to negotiate 40/hand with him
#weird
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April 20th, 2018 at 3:17:31 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


Finally shuffled up, I lost the first three hands and was down to my last green chip from my 500 buy in - I won the next 5 hands, began to press and even won a couple of double downs -- over the course of the next few shuffles, I had not only regained the 500 buy in - but, another 250 as well

Or as Mrs Q would say, "I'm about even".


Quote: aceofspades


The pit critter motioned to me as I colored up the chips and asked me: "Hey, what's up with your hair?"

"Hitting" on you, perhaps ? ? ?
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April 20th, 2018 at 5:05:42 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

The ZenKing/Sodawater debate is above my pay grade -- anyone want to catch me up to speed on China Town?

Welcome back, Ace!

If you have half a day (and a significant number of brain cells) to kill, you can take a look at ZK's D-Day in Vegas thread.

Or, TL/DR: ZK moved to Vegas a few months ago to count cards. When he wins, he is the smartest, cleverest, most awesome human being to ever walk the earth. When he loses, he is obviously being cheated, mainly by the casinos that use Chinese pre-shuffled decks (because obviously, these decks are deficient in the number of 10's and A's as they don't spread them out on the table for all to see). This is the basis for all "China"/"Chinese" references.

Also, casino personnel, and a few of us spies here at WoV are out to get him. :P

Now that you're caught up, please get back to the tables and kick some Ace! :)
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April 20th, 2018 at 7:46:23 AM permalink
Quote: RS

Someone said I looked like a homeless version of myself after I tried to cut my hair once. I guess it’s a new fad?

Have you seen the back of your own car? It makes for a strong "homeless" case =). Trolling you was too easy:

Romes: "omg I found black chips back here!"
RS: "REALLY?!?!?!"
Romes: "(laughing)... no..."
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April 20th, 2018 at 8:01:04 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

The pit critter motioned to me as I colored up the chips and asked me: "Hey, what's up with your hair?" - I replied - "What do you mean?" - he said - "It's all crazy and out of place" - I looked at him quizzically and asked him what that had to do with anything - this was the second time today that a male commented don my hair - I don't get it - is that now a thing to do? WTF‽ Why would another man care what some other guys hairstyle was???



The dealer / player dynamic can lead to feelings of quasi-familiarity which in turn can lead one to ask questions one would not normally ask a stranger.

Not sure how you were coiffed at that moment, but viewing your pic in the VLOG I can understand his curiosity; your styling choice is different.

Nothing wrong with that, but I can see how it could be a conversation starter for a dealer.
"What, me worry?"
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