JoelDeze
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February 19th, 2017 at 6:53:52 AM permalink
02-12-2017 "Regal Princess" Cruise Ship Report

I'll go in order of Table Games and followed by Slots.

BLACKJACK

3 types of Blackjack Tables were on the cruise.

Type 1:

$6 min / $500 max
Continuous Shuffler
6:5 payout on BJ
Dealer Hits on Soft 17
No Surrender
No Even Money
Prop Bets were "Lucky Ladies" $1-$10 max

Lucky Ladies were the same on all tables.

QH + QH = 1000x payout
Any suited pair that adds up to 20 = 19x payout
K or Q + 10 = 4x payout
Any A + 9 combo = 4x payout

Type 2:

$25 min / $1000 max
Continuous Shuffler
6:5 payout on BJ
Dealer Hits on Soft 17
Surrender allowed on opening hand
Even Money accepted
Lucky Ladies prop bets

Type 3:

Fun 21 (similar to Spanish 21)
$6 min / $500 max
6-deck shoe
3:2 payout on BJ
1:1 payout on 21
No Kings in the deck
Double allowed anytime
Surrender allowed on open hand and after doubling
Lucky Ladies prop bets.

Blackjack Summary

The only table I won at was fun 21, and not much at all. I stayed away from the other tables because everything was stacked against the player. I was a bit disappointed that Princess modified their rules to provide an extremely negative player experience. Not a lot of the rules were posted and at times it just felt like they were making up the rules during play.

Dealers pulled winning bets a lot and cards had to be unfolded to prove wins. Most of the dealers were from South Africa on the ship because the name tags showed Country of origin.

Overall return on BJ was (-$700 in the red)


CRAPS TABLE


$5 min table with 2x Odds
No Hops / No Fire Bets / plain vanilla
Micro Fiber table

You are allowed to increase the passline and odds on the passline anytime after the point was set.

Summary

The craps table was by far the best table on the ship and they only had one open from 8-9pm on to 2 or 3 am in the morning.

With the passline increases allowed at anytime, I started with $5 and after the point was set determined increases. I found this very advantageous. 4 or 10 I'd leave the $5. 5 or 9 I'd increase to $10/$20. 6 or 8 I'd increase to $30/$60.

The best night was when a bunch of drunk hot girls showed up and the table had 5 hot rollers in a row. I cleared $1,600 and was very entertained for 3 hours.

Other nights were hit and miss because the same people showed up that weren't rolling well and so I had to figure out when to DP/DC.

Overall on Craps I ended up +$300 for the week.

OTHER TABLES

Let it Ride
3-Card Poker
Roulette
Video Poker table - 12 seats. Didn't play. Sorry.



SLOT MACHINES

They had a lot of bonus game play slots and 4 video poker machines.

The slots were loose in the daytime and tight at night.

Credits were generally 1/2/3/5/10 with amounts equaling $.30/$.60/$.90/$1.50/$3.00.

Playing on 2 and 3 produced a lot more wins. This was ascertained from just talking with others. Playing max produced empty pockets.

On bonus slots playing faster produced more bonuses.

The bigger winning machines were actually located right in the front of the casino by the entrance.

Summary

My mom won $480 over the trip. My brother won about $170. I lost about $200. My wife came out about even. My Mom and Brother only played slots during night the trip.



Overall Summary

The dealers were friendly and the entire staff was top notch as far as service levels go. There were tournament buy ins for Poker, Blackjack and Slots every night. General buy in was $20 and the top 6 played in a final. Winner received $300.

I liked the craps table the best. Great experience and the only table I consistently won on while playing. I did get lucky on the 3-card poker table on the last day and won $600 on a straight flush. But it took me $400 and 3 hours to get there.

I didn't like the shift in Princess policy to maximize house profit. In 2011 there were no shufflers and the odds were 3:2 and 6:5 on BJ. I felt that you want people leaving with a positive experience and I'd give an overall casino grade of C- for the ship.

Any questions ask away.
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LuckyPhow
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February 19th, 2017 at 8:36:32 AM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

02-12-2017 "Regal Princess" Cruise Ship Report

Any questions ask away.


Many thanx for the great trip report!

While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?
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February 19th, 2017 at 9:20:44 AM permalink
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The slots were loose in the daytime and tight at night.

You dont really believe this do you? I guess its technically possible, especially if they have a central server. For the most part when people claim this type of BS it's total nonsense. I highly doubt the slot techs run around and change the slot settings. They probably have them all set fairly low to begin with and keep them that way.

Quote: JoelDeze

Playing max produced empty pockets.

That's usually the case since you are betting more on something that's probably holding 15%+.

Quote: JoelDeze

On bonus slots playing faster produced more bonuses.

of course it did, you are getting more chances to get into bonus rounds because you are playing more spins per hour.

Quote: JoelDeze

The bigger winning machines were actually located right in the front of the casino by the entrance.

Were they higher denominations? If so, they would naturally have more jackpots and appear to be the "bigger winning machines".

You hit the quadfecta on slot myths.

Right after reading the part where you were down $700 on various games. I was thinking myself, the happy ending craps winning part will be coming soon. Sure enough, as predicted to myself....
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 19th, 2017 at 9:24:50 AM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

Many thanx for the great trip report!

While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?

Probably not since they needed time to change the slot payouts. (-;
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 19th, 2017 at 9:52:33 AM permalink
Why would you do a put bet with only 2x odds? That is a terrible way to play.
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February 19th, 2017 at 11:34:12 AM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

Many thanx for the great trip report!

While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?



I think the slots are open as much as possible, which starts about 2 hours after you depart. In my experience on Princess cruises, table games are shut down between about 2am to 10am. On my last cruise, I would go to the casino about 6am to "play" Ultimate X.
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February 20th, 2017 at 4:19:39 AM permalink
Quote: LuckyPhow

Many thanx for the great trip report!

While at sea, was the casino open 24/7?



Slots open 24/7 on sea days or 30 min after departing an island.

Table games opened at 11 am and closed at 2 am or 3 am depending on the amount of action they were taking.

Casino is closed while docked.
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February 20th, 2017 at 2:31:26 PM permalink
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You dont really believe this do you? I guess its technically possible, especially if they have a central server. For the most part when people claim this type of BS it's total nonsense. I highly doubt the slot techs run around and change the slot settings. They probably have them all set fairly low to begin with and keep them that way.

That's usually the case since you are betting more on something that's probably holding 15%+.

of course it did, you are getting more chances to get into bonus rounds because you are playing more spins per hour.

Were they higher denominations? If so, they would naturally have more jackpots and appear to be the "bigger winning machines".

You hit the quadfecta on slot myths.

Right after reading the part where you were down $700 on various games. I was thinking myself, the happy ending craps winning part will be coming soon. Sure enough, as predicted to myself....



On your first question regarding loose/tight, I have absolutely no way of electronically confirming what I mentioned. Almost all of the info for slots was ascertained from just talking with a majority of the same people that played for hours and figuring out what times the won the most. It's not a super large casino and apparently there are a lot of casino goers that show up around the same spots. I simply asked them how they were doing and if they found things better in the daytime or nighttime. I also asked if they changed their style of play and what machines they liked the most.

You could easily walk around the entire casino in less than 90 seconds. Not a big casino.

On the bonus spins response, your answer is not correct. I could push a button 5 seconds after every spin for 2 hours and maybe get 1 - 2 bonuses show up. Speed racing over just 1 hour produced from 4 to 7 bonuses. Unfortunately, I never figured this out until the last day. I wish I could have tested it further. Maybe I would have had better luck with the machines I went to.

The winning machines in the front were max $1.25 betting machines. They seemed to win something on every spin or every other spin. I actually did well on one but I really hate slots so I don't play them often. I was mainly testing different machines for quirks.

Lastly, on the craps table, I spent 60% of my time in the casino on this one lone micro fiber table. I had a lot of short to medium rolls because the bounce was difficult. I didn't win anything big. I mentioned a $1,600 payout one night but ended up overall at a trifle of that amount. I wouldn't call that a big win at all.

In the end, between everything I did over the full 7 day cruise, I did not come out a winner. I win a lot more at Twin River and so far, Twin River and Foxwoods has produced more money for me combined than any of the other 8 casinos I've visited. The cruise ship wasn't the worst experience I have had but it wasn't even in the low tier of the best. Sure, the service was nice. I had an unlimited drink purchase for the week so I had a lot of fun trying out different drinks while playing, even though I didn't drink as much in the casino. The dealers and staff were exemplary and nice. There were very few grumblers on board.

The experience I loved the most was that when I play in Twin River I am surrounded by 70% Asians towed in from the surrounding area and on the ship, I didn't have that experience because there were so many different people from all different Countries. The conversations were interesting and so I found it more of a social affair.

In the end, I would "NOT" recommend anyone playing in a casino on a cruise ship. If you want to play, go throw a max bet on the roulette wheel and shoot for black and cross your fingers. It will save you a lot of time and effort and then you can go about enjoying the rest of the cruise elsewhere.
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February 20th, 2017 at 3:00:43 PM permalink
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With the passline increases allowed at anytime, I started with $5 and after the point was set determined increases. I found this very advantageous. 4 or 10 I'd leave the $5. 5 or 9 I'd increase to $10/$20. 6 or 8 I'd increase to $30/$60.



What am I reading here? When the point was set at 5, 6, 8, or 9 you'd put more money on the PASS LINE at 1:1 payout? That's giving the house free money. They have huge edges on those bets.

If you want to pet more at craps, add more to the odds. If you want to bet more than max odds, add money to the pass line ON THE COME OUT ROLL. The edge there is 1.41%.

What you were doing there, if I understand it, is simply giving up your superior chance at a come-out winner.
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February 20th, 2017 at 4:18:31 PM permalink
Quote: bbvk05

What am I reading here? When the point was set at 5, 6, 8, or 9 you'd put more money on the PASS LINE at 1:1 payout? That's giving the house free money. They have huge edges on those bets.

If you want to pet more at craps, add more to the odds. If you want to bet more than max odds, add money to the pass line ON THE COME OUT ROLL. The edge there is 1.41%.

What you were doing there, if I understand it, is simply giving up your superior chance at a come-out winner.



They were capped at 2x on the odds. I normally play 5x or 10x tables at home.

I generally played 5 on the PL and 10 on the odds (2x capped). I then increased after the 3rd or 5th roll if no 7-out to 10/20 (5 and 9) OR (20/40 to 30/60 if a hot roller). It worked out well.

The majority of money I lost had nothing to do with PL bets. It was when I didn't turn off or take down place bets when I became greedy.

I like playing at home where I know the people and know which rollers shoot well and which ones don't.
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