darkoz
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July 25th, 2014 at 7:51:58 AM permalink
I had a $75 direct bet or free-bet coupon for the tables.

I threw it on red at roulette. Ball landed red, up $75. Decided to let it ride. What the hell, I hadn't taken any money out my pocket yet.

Ball dropped in red, up $150. Fuck it, let it ride.

Got red again, up $300.

Was about to take the money when this guy at the table informed me I should switch to black if I want to keep winning. I said that was stupid. If there was a streak, I would ride it till one loss, not get hit with a bunch of losses waiting for one win. You don't know if that ball is going to keep landing on red.

We went back and forth until the guy basically challenged me by stating if I really thought streaks happened that often I would have no qualms about betting red again. So, I grabbed a buck fifty off the table and let the other half go again.

Red, up to $450 with $300 on the table. This guy still wouldn't shut up, talking about how I got supremely lucky and any intelligent person would now bet black. So I let it ride.

Red again, up to $750 with six on the table. I grabbed a buck off and let $500 go for the next spin.

Red again, let it ride.

red again, grabbed $500 for myself and let $1500 go for the next spin.

red again, grabbed a grand and let the table max go for the next spin. Pit boss was called over for that and the dealer explained how I had worked up from a free-bet. He congratulated me and asked for my players card (I hadn't planned on staying for more than two or three spins but now, I was like sure here's my card).

Before this table max spin, the other guy laid three hundred on the table and said, "Put it all on black. I'm gonna prove a point to this guy."

So he had three hundred on black while I had two grand on red.

Ball lands on red. I'm up to $3,750. I let the table max ride again.

Ball lands on red. Up to $5,750. Let the table max ride again.

Well, unfortunately, my ride was up. I lost that one and I made a couple of other fifty dollar bets to see if I could get another streak but finally left with $3500 in purple and all from a free-bet.

The guy I was arguing with shook my hand when I left. He was very gracious about it.

Here's a pic of my purple.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203226269512531&l=6ea1e011ec
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ams288
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July 25th, 2014 at 8:24:27 AM permalink
Nice.

There's nothing more annoying than other people telling you how to bet your own money.
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strictlyAP
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July 25th, 2014 at 8:24:28 AM permalink
not sure what you are implying, but streaks mean nothing in roulette
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darkoz
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July 25th, 2014 at 8:48:10 AM permalink
Quote: strictlyAP

not sure what you are implying, but streaks mean nothing in roulette



I'm referring to a method of play based on streaks. Not that I have a way of predicting them but if they do happen and I catch one I will win instead of lose.

Forgetting the zero's, there are only three possible outcomes within a string of outcomes.

All red
All black
red and black mixture.

If the table is all red and you're betting black that's a whole bunch of losses
If the table is all black and you're betting red, that's a whole bunch of losses
and probably you're losing when the table is hopping randomly back and forth.

I like to play so if I catch a streak of red I am winning through the streak not losing. And the same with black.

I've seen many streaks but unfortunately I was not always at the table when they happened as I came at the tail end.

Can't predict when they will occur but when they do, go with the streak, that's all I'm saying.
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Deucekies
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July 25th, 2014 at 3:51:13 PM permalink
There's nothing right about it, but there's nothing wrong about it either. If it's the style of play that makes you happy, go for it. This time it was the right choice, and it sure showed a thing or two to Mr. Do-What-I-Say-With-Your-Money.
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darkoz
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July 25th, 2014 at 4:10:26 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

There's nothing right about it, but there's nothing wrong about it either. If it's the style of play that makes you happy, go for it. This time it was the right choice, and it sure showed a thing or two to Mr. Do-What-I-Say-With-Your-Money.



Perhaps I should elaborate.

If the ball has landed on black several times in a row, then lets say you bet red.

Now if six more spins land on black you've lost six straight times.

Instead, I advocate betting on the black. Now if the ball lands six more times on black, you've won six times.

"BUT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE BALL LANDS ON RED THAT FIRST SPIN" I hear you yelling.

That's fine too. You've only lost ONE spin. Leave.

That's the way I do it.
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Deucekies
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July 25th, 2014 at 4:35:05 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Perhaps I should elaborate.

If the ball has landed on black several times in a row, then lets say you bet red.

Now if six more spins land on black you've lost six straight times.

Instead, I advocate betting on the black. Now if the ball lands six more times on black, you've won six times.

"BUT, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE BALL LANDS ON RED THAT FIRST SPIN" I hear you yelling.

That's fine too. You've only lost ONE spin. Leave.

That's the way I do it.



And that's fine. Your pattern is to go for streaks. I might go for chops. Another guy might go for RRBBRRBB.

Mathematically, no one way of doing it is better or worse than another, and I think that's what others were getting at.
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July 25th, 2014 at 4:53:40 PM permalink
Was at the MGM 8 years ago, streak of 7 blacks
on board. Guy comes running up with his luggage
and put $100 on red, lose. $200 on red, lose.
$400 on red, lose. $800 on red, lose. He looked
like a balloon that's been popped. He says he just
blew his whole trip BR and he hadn't even checked
in yet. I pipe up and say, follow the streak and you
only lose once. If looks could kill, it would be the
one he gave me. That was in my wising up chumps
days..
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Deucekies
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July 25th, 2014 at 6:19:42 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Was at the MGM 8 years ago, streak of 7 blacks
on board. Guy comes running up with his luggage
and put $100 on red, lose. $200 on red, lose.
$400 on red, lose. $800 on red, lose. He looked
like a balloon that's been popped. He says he just
blew his whole trip BR and he hadn't even checked
in yet.



Eww.

Tell this story whenever someone even thinks the word "martingale".
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darkoz
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July 25th, 2014 at 6:24:34 PM permalink
Quote: Deucekies

Eww.

Tell this story whenever someone even thinks the word "martingale".



Yeah, that's all I'm saying. If this guy had put the hundred on black instead and made the same bets he would have made $1500 in four spins while still only risking the initial $100.

Or just made four $100 bets and been up $400.

And if the ball had landed on red after all, he'd only have been down $100 (assuming he didn't chase it once the streak ended.)
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