Bankroll for Don't Pass vs Passline
March 5th, 2011 at 5:44:29 PM
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Is it safe to say that a gambler who only plays the don't (laying full odds) vs a gambler who only plays the passline (with full odds) needs to have 140% large bankroll at a 3x4x5x odds craps game?
I got this by taking a gambler who bets $100 on the don't passline and lays full odds ($600) vs a gambler who bets $100 on the passline and takes full odds ($400 average). Shouldn't they both have the same number of betting units to give them the same chance of not going broke during a trip?
I got this by taking a gambler who bets $100 on the don't passline and lays full odds ($600) vs a gambler who bets $100 on the passline and takes full odds ($400 average). Shouldn't they both have the same number of betting units to give them the same chance of not going broke during a trip?
March 5th, 2011 at 6:46:07 PM
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Its only the laying the odds that requires more money than the guy who takes the odds, but I think its going to be far more than just a forty percent bump in the required bankroll.
March 5th, 2011 at 8:14:37 PM
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Quote: gamblerIs it safe to say that a gambler who only plays the don't (laying full odds) vs a gambler who only plays the passline (with full odds) needs to have 140% large bankroll at a 3x4x5x odds craps game?
Yes. I know I have read that some place. Can't remember where.
My example: $5 line bets with 345X odds.
average pass line bet is $18.89
average don't pass bet is $25.00
$6.11/$18.89 = 32.35% higher average bet for don't/odds vs. pass/odds
So, as long as my math is correct, 33% to 40% should cover it.
1/3 of the time the average bet is $5.
2/3 is split between the different 3 point totals.
pass 345x odds
5 33.33% $1.67
20 6 25.00% 16.67% $3.33
25 8 33.33% 22.22% $5.56
30 10 41.67% 27.78% $8.33
total 24 66.67% $18.89
don’t pass 345x odds
5 33.33% $1.67
35 6 25.00% 16.67% $5.83
35 8 33.33% 22.22% $7.78
35 10 41.67% 27.78% $9.72
total 24 66.67% $25.00
As the odds increase, so should the bankroll.
10X odds, $10 line bets.
$76.67 pass avg bet vs. $110.00 don't avg bet = 43.48%
100X odds, $100 line bets
$6700 pass avg bet vs. $10,100 don't avg bet = 50.75%
September 5th, 2011 at 2:14:17 PM
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But, don't you have to take into account the frequency of the wins? A DP player is going to have more wins than the PL player. Of course, the cost for getting more wins is the fact that you need to put up more in odds to win less. But doesn't the increased number of wins mean a DP player's BR will stay healthier longer, thus requiring less of a starting number?
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September 5th, 2011 at 3:21:55 PM
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I guess it depends on what kind of dont bettor you are....if you also play D/C and lay odds......I would say you need a MUCH larger bank roll
August 11th, 2018 at 1:33:26 PM
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I'm buying-in with 10X the PL, and another part of the rail for 10X the odds bets. So if I'm doing single odds on the PL, I'd have $60 for 10 PL bets of $6, and $60 for 10 odds bets of $6. If I want double odds, I'd raise it to $120 for 10 odds bets of $12. If I want triple odds, I'd raise it to $180 for 10 odds bets of $18. But I'd better focus on winning enough to get to the $10 table and never looking back.
