scottndindy
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February 13th, 2011 at 6:37:00 PM permalink
Do any casinos offer any type of Pai Gow side bets? I was thinking about possible bets that could be offered.

Getting a pair
Getting 2 pairs
Getting a "straight" example: 2,3,4,5
Getting a "flush" all tiles of same colored dots
Dealer and player having Copy
Winning the high hand
Winning the low hand

I would also wonder the odds of these type of hands would be.
NicksGamingStuff
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February 13th, 2011 at 8:11:41 PM permalink
I have never seen a pai gow side bet, I doubt any casino would since the market for players is very specific and is 99.9% asian players that are very superstitious and very serious about this traditional classic game
scottndindy
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February 13th, 2011 at 8:18:53 PM permalink
I was originally thinking that the Asian players wouldn't like it but they bet like crazy on the dragon bonus on Baccarat which is the only reason I thought they might not be opposed to a side bet.
PaiGowFan
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February 24th, 2011 at 4:26:47 PM permalink
No side bets.
Aussie
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February 24th, 2011 at 7:07:29 PM permalink
Not true.

Crown Casino in Melboure Australia has a bonus side bet that gets paid on specific hands:

Wong - even money
Pair - 2-1
Gee Jun, Teen or Day pair - 5-1
2 pairs - 12-1
Lame Duck (high 6/low 6/any 7/any 4 set as 1-2) - 20-1
Teen and Day pairs - 40-1 I Think
Gee Jun & Day Pair - 60-1 I think
Gee Jun & Teen Pair - 200-1
Aussie
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February 24th, 2011 at 7:09:40 PM permalink
They also have s Tie bet that gets paid even money if you get a push & 25-1 if you get a push with you low hand being a gong or higher.
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February 25th, 2011 at 7:23:59 PM permalink
Details for the two Pai Gow side bets mentioned above can be found within the guide here:

http://www.crowncasino.com.au/Assets/Files/Crown%20Pai%20Gow.pdf
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February 25th, 2011 at 8:41:03 PM permalink
I've seen that side bet at the gaming show but never knew it made it into a casino. Here is a quick analysis.

Event Pays Combinations Probability Return
Gee-Jun and Teen pair 200 1 0.000028 0.005562
Gee-Jun and Day pair 60 1 0.000028 0.001669
Heaven pair and Earth pair 30 1 0.000028 0.000834
Lame Duck 20 64 0.001780 0.035595
Two Pair 12 117 0.003254 0.039043
Gee-Jun, Teen or Day pair 5 1260 0.035039 0.175195
One Pair 2 5460 0.151835 0.303671
Wong 1 2704 0.075195 0.075195
Loser -1 26352 0.732814 -0.732814
Total 35960 1.000000 -0.096051


By the way, a "lame duck" is a 2-1 hand, which must be composed of a high 6, low 6, any 7, and any 4.

Only the highest win pays.

Anyone disagree?
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
NicksGamingStuff
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February 25th, 2011 at 8:44:53 PM permalink
I probably should read the website, but I am curious if it is like pai gow poker where if it is in your hand you get the bonus, or if you have to play the wong etc... to get it. I have played many times where splitting the wong was the better move, I am a bit of a sucker in the sense that I always play my highest hand no matter what the low is, for example I would rather play a 9/0 than a 5/4 (I am not sure if these are correct examples, but it is to give the general idea)
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February 25th, 2011 at 9:13:14 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I've seen that side bet at the gaming show but never knew it made it into a casino. Here is a quick analysis.

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Anyone disagree?



I agree with your figures exactly.


Quote: NicksGamingStuff

I probably should read the website, but I am curious if it is like pai gow poker where if it is in your hand you get the bonus, or if you have to play the wong etc... to get it. I have played many times where splitting the wong was the better move, I am a bit of a sucker in the sense that I always play my highest hand no matter what the low is, for example I would rather play a 9/0 than a 5/4 (I am not sure if these are correct examples, but it is to give the general idea)


The side bet pays regardless of how you set the hand for the main bet. If you have 2-5-9-10 and set the hand as 7/9 instead of 5/Wong, the side bet will still pay you even money for the Wong.

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