joarmac
joarmac
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February 6th, 2011 at 4:47:21 PM permalink
I like to spend my time in Vegas camping at a roulette table. I love to watch all the suckers, I mean gamblers bet against the display. "Look at all those blacks, there has to be a red coming up."

Priceless!

Considering an inside/outside minimum of $15, what would be your best "system" to spend a few hours at the table without losing to much bank? A frequent camper suggested 2-4 square and 2-6 square bets with and average win of 52.6%. I expanded on this to 3-4 square and 2-6 square bets with an average win of 63.1%.

Anyone have a better game plan without betting $15 on the same number over and over again?

Thanks
mkl654321
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February 6th, 2011 at 5:07:29 PM permalink
Quote: joarmac

I like to spend my time in Vegas camping at a roulette table. I love to watch all the suckers, I mean gamblers bet against the display. "Look at all those blacks, there has to be a red coming up."

Priceless!

Considering an inside/outside minimum of $15, what would be your best "system" to spend a few hours at the table without losing to much bank? A frequent camper suggested 2-4 square and 2-6 square bets with and average win of 52.6%. I expanded on this to 3-4 square and 2-6 square bets with an average win of 63.1%.

Anyone have a better game plan without betting $15 on the same number over and over again?

Thanks



How about not betting at all, just watching, and at random intervals, breaking out in maniacal laughter?
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
teddys
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February 6th, 2011 at 5:26:04 PM permalink
A little less tongue-in-cheek than above...

It doesn't matter, all bets have the same expectation. If you want to maximize your time at the table, you should minimize variance, which means betting the 50/50 outside bets as a first choice, then the dozens, then the six-squares, etc. Betting a couple squares and six-squares is probably the same as betting a couple dozens, so if you have fun with it, go for it. I would seek out lesser minimum tables, though depending on what jurisdiction you are in, that may be hard to do. Vegas has a lot of low minimum roulette, but most of it is downtown or off-strip.

A friend of mine used to play two of the dozens and one of the 50/50 bets, and had a lot of fun with it, and seemed to be at the table a long time. I think it was black and two of the columns.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
RonC
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February 6th, 2011 at 5:34:40 PM permalink
I know the house advantage is the same on most of the bets, but I have had some long sessions playing 2 of the 3 dozens on the bottom. I played almost all night a couple of times; my comps were the best for that trip compared to all of the other ones. I was betting between $10 and $100 on each dozen but mostly had quarters on each of the two I picked. My average bet was around $50 for about 12 hours a day.

Multiple hits on the dozen you aren't on (or on those dreaded 0/00) could wipe the bankroll out quickly but a few spins of the right kind early could give you a positive session.

I also did this on a roulette pinball machine that looks like it has the same HA as the wheel (the wheel is the same and I also talked to the slot director at the casino--he confirmed the HA). I made pretty massive points for playing a single $20 through. I bet $5 or so per spin and cashed out with $20 and 400 points. Points at dollar level and above are $3 = 1 point; below that, $2 = 1 point. I am not sure how my bets were counted in that regard. My "chips" were .25 but my bets were $2.50 on each dozen.

Again, a couple of spins in the wrong column and you are done too quickly.

The other thing about the dozens play is that there are no huge payouts. It is a slow grind up or down.

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