Fan Tan / Andar Bahar

Fan Tan and Andar Bahar are two games that I have seen on many online casinos played by Westerners, but neither game appears in any casino in North America. Do you think that Andar Bahar could succeed if approved by GLI / local governments? A similar game, Knockout 52, has not survived its initial debut recently, which makes me slightly pessimistic.

Fan Tan... I don't know if that could even be approved by GLI. Could it?

Other games that I've seen online but not in America is Casino Hold'Em and Lunar Poker (Russian Poker)... does anyone have any insight into why these game only exist outside the USA?

Thanks,
Harris

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Fan Tan and Andar Bahar are two games that I have seen on many online casinos played by Westerners, but neither game appears in any casino in North America. Do you think that Andar Bahar could succeed if approved by GLI / local governments? A similar game, Knockout 52, has not survived its initial debut recently, which makes me slightly pessimistic.

Fan Tan... I don't know if that could even be approved by GLI. Could it?

Other games that I've seen online but not in America is Casino Hold'Em and Lunar Poker (Russian Poker)... does anyone have any insight into why these game only exist outside the USA?

Thanks,
Harris
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Both of those games Casino Hold'em and Lunar Poker) were developed outside of the U.S. The inventor and tireless promoter of Casino Hold'em is our own Mr. Casino Games; perhaps he will comment.

I seem to remember that Lunar Poker is a chore to analyze.

Problem with Fan Tan is it can't exist in any jurisdiction that only allows card games.

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Both of those games Casino Hold'em and Lunar Poker) were developed outside of the U.S. The inventor and tireless promoter of Casino Hold'em is our own Mr. Casino Games; perhaps he will comment.
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Three Card and Free Bet were developed outside of North America yet they were able to become popular after being introduced to Vegas.

I was hoping Mr. Casino Games would comment ;)

From what I know there are only two states that require games to be card-oriented - Minnesota and California, does anyone have other examples?

I think the issue with Fan Tan is that it would be really hard for GLI to test

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Problem with Fan Tan is it can't exist in any jurisdiction that only allows card games.
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Fan Tan, the game where somebody selects a pile of items and the players bet on what the remainder would be when the number is divided by 4? I ask because, until I looked it up, the only game I had heard of called Fan Tan was a card game.

That could easily be converted to cards: simply take one or two decks and cut them, then count the number in one of the two halves of the cut.
Alternatively, if you want a more traditional version, do it similar to California "Card Craps"; have four cards - Ace, 2, 3, 4 (alternatively, the Aces of Spades, Hearts, Diamonds, and Clubs) - shuffled and then placed on four spaces on the table marked 1, 2, 3, 4, then play Fan Tan normally, but the winning bet is based on the card in the corresponding space based on the divide-by-4 remainder.

That might work in California but not in Minnesota where decks must have at least 52 cards (having jokers is fine but Spanish 21 is not)

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From what I know there are only two states that require games to be card-oriented - Minnesota and California, does anyone have other examples?

Washington state (non-tribal).