Baccarat table limits, play extra spots?

Baccarat table limits:
I see players in Vegas are spoiled with high limit table maxes on the Baccarat tables. Where I live, they just don't exist. There's $2K or $3K max tables, not $5K or $10K tables. Say I bet Player for the table max but I want to bet more per hand, can I bet more than one spot at the table? In Black Jack that's one way to duck the table max by playing extra hands, but I don't know if that can work in Baccarat.

In Washington, that's allowed. A $400 table max is effectively a $3600 table max if you're alone at the table.

I've been told 2 spots max at a couple casinos for BJ, but that's not in the high limit area, and there's no Baccarat in the high limit area anyway. The Asians dominate the local Baccarat tables and it's hard to find a seat. The casino doesn't seem to think opening up a 3rd table is worth their time or staff so it's always a jostle at the tables. But I was drawing up new strategies for it if I ever get on a table and was wondering about the table limit question anyway. I've never played, I doubt I'll get to a table until I have a much better bankroll. I'm revamping my win goals down to +15 bets per session so I can win more sessions sooner in a couple hours. I could turn a $4K buy-in into $80K with 4 session wins over 4 nights at a $3K max table. If I could spread to 2 to 4 hands at up to $3K at some points maybe I could double that win or better.

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In Washington, that's allowed. A $400 table max is effectively a $3600 table max if you're alone at the table.
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That's bizarre. This is definitely not allowed in Vegas, and in fact if two people are playing from the same bankroll the table max exists as an aggregate for them.

In Blackjack, yes, multiple spots are allowed at table max, but never at Baccarat.

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In Washington, that's allowed. A $400 table max is effectively a $3600 table max if you're alone at the table.
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That's bizarre. This is definitely not allowed in Vegas, and in fact if two people are playing from the same bankroll the table max exists as an aggregate for them.

In Blackjack, yes, multiple spots are allowed at table max, but never at Baccarat.
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This is likely to mitigate the Comp and Tier Credit Vultures who work in tandems and play Big Bets on one side (Player) while their partner quietly fades their bets on Banker and eats the commission to earn Points on both player cards.

Blackjack there is no real inherit harm of one player playing multiple hands as the point total of each is hand is likely to be Different on each hand and thus they are not playing beyond the table limit on one hand as would the case in Baccarat.

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In Washington, that's allowed. A $400 table max is effectively a $3600 table max if you're alone at the table.
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That's bizarre. This is definitely not allowed in Vegas, and in fact if two people are playing from the same bankroll the table max exists as an aggregate for them.

In Blackjack, yes, multiple spots are allowed at table max, but never at Baccarat.
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Non native card rooms in Washington are capped at $400 max bet per spot legally, is why this wouldn’t be entirely uncommon. Used to be $300. And western Washington’s demographics ensures that game will be popular.

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In Washington, that's allowed. A $400 table max is effectively a $3600 table max if you're alone at the table.
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That's bizarre. This is definitely not allowed in Vegas, and in fact if two people are playing from the same bankroll the table max exists as an aggregate for them.

In Blackjack, yes, multiple spots are allowed at table max, but never at Baccarat.
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Non native card rooms in Washington are capped at $400 max bet per spot legally, is why this wouldn’t be entirely uncommon. Used to be $300. And western Washington’s demographics ensures that game will be popular.
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Any of those "Siamese" double-wide baccarat tables?
I only heard about a few south of the 49th, and the only one I could easily get to was removed from the floor shortly before I arrived to check it out.

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In Washington, that's allowed. A $400 table max is effectively a $3600 table max if you're alone at the table.
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That's bizarre. This is definitely not allowed in Vegas, and in fact if two people are playing from the same bankroll the table max exists as an aggregate for them.

In Blackjack, yes, multiple spots are allowed at table max, but never at Baccarat.
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Non native card rooms in Washington are capped at $400 max bet per spot legally, is why this wouldn’t be entirely uncommon. Used to be $300. And western Washington’s demographics ensures that game will be popular.
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Any of those "Siamese" double-wide baccarat tables?
I only heard about a few south of the 49th, and the only one I could easily get to was removed from the floor shortly before I arrived to check it out.
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None that I know of. Just mini-baccarat. We do let them squeeze at certain minimums, but it's the same kind of table.

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Any of those "Siamese" double-wide baccarat tables?
I only heard about a few south of the 49th, and the only one I could easily get to was removed from the floor shortly before I arrived to check it out.
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None that I know of. Just mini-baccarat. We do let them squeeze at certain minimums, but it's the same kind of table.
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Makes sense. I only imagine them placed when there is a specific external constraint that the house is trying to sidestep.

You can always Play at this guy's table in Vegas! I have a feeling there will be plenty of empty chairs... OKAAAAAY???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO6s2TKxVyM&lc=UgzriFns-1lcnefhAGV4AaABAg.AAdwtLesp3KAAtxXEkNr6I

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You can always Play at this guy's table in Vegas! I have a feeling there will be plenty of empty chairs... OKAAAAAY???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO6s2TKxVyM&lc=UgzriFns-1lcnefhAGV4AaABAg.AAdwtLesp3KAAtxXEkNr6I
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Thanks a lot, okay! Now, I gotta go get me some Popeyes, okay!

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When I worked for the Venetian our baccarat max bet was $100,000. Once an Asian whale filled the Palazzo high limit room with a bunch of women. He bounced around from table to table. These women bet the same way he did as an obvious way to subvert the table maximum. Everyone knew he was doing it. The limit was probably as low as it was because they expected some players to do that.

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When I worked for the Venetian our baccarat max bet was $100,000. Once an Asian whale filled the Palazzo high limit room with a bunch of women. He bounced around from table to table. These women bet the same way he did as an obvious way to subvert the table maximum. Everyone knew he was doing it. The limit was probably as low as it was because they expected some players to do that.
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Yeah. Those pesky $100k table limits always crimp my style.

It is really hard for me to comprehend having $100k on the line REPEATEDLY depending on a coin flip. I try and envision how many billions I’d need to be worth before doing so.

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When I worked for the Venetian our baccarat max bet was $100,000.
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Are you sure you are remembering accurately or were aware of all whales because from Day One when Venetian opened it was max bet $160,000. which it is $250,000. now. There are rare exceptions at this and other casinos on the Strip where $500,000. is allowed today.

I am quite certain Venetian allowed higher than $100K at Baccarat at all times it has been open.

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It is really hard for me to comprehend having $100k on the line REPEATEDLY depending on a coin flip. I try and envision how many billions I’d need to be worth before doing so.
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The Baccarat players at Venetian who will bet to special limit flat out every hand, the older time dealers refer to as Paizas. I know of one who used to bet $250K a hand who is broke now (comparatively) plays like $200. a hand now. Must not have worked very hard to get all those tens of millions blown.

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I am quite certain Venetian allowed higher than $100K at Baccarat at all times it has been open.
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As I recall, the posted max bet in the high limit room was $100,000 in the Palazzo. They would take more from trusted players on a case by case basis. I'm pretty sure the whale in my story didn't need to hire all these women to sit at every baccarat table in the room and could have easily negotiated a higher maximum bet. However, it was probably part of the fun for him, looking like the big banana to about 20 attractive Asian women.

When Venetian first opened, the max posted limit at Baccarat was $15,000 with a $2000 limit on the tie. At that same time 1999 etc. the limit at all Wynn casinos on the Strip (such as Bellagio etc.) was also $15,000 with a $3000 limit on the tie bet. **

The special limits for whales with very high credit lines or front money deposits was $160,000.

In recent years the posted max bet at Venetian was $35,000 but shortly after Apollo took over this was lowered to $25,000.

$25,000 is the current max posted for all Baccarat on the Strip.

Special limits up to $500,000 are allowed currently but are rare.


** Before Rio was taken over by Harrah’s Ent it allowed anyone off the street to bet up to $100,000 at Baccarat. And this was during the same period that anyplace on the Strip had $15,000 posted limits. Rio lowered its max at Baccarat to $15,000 in 2000, I believe it was, about a year after the Harrah’s sale became final.

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As I'm pretty sure the whale in my story didn't need to hire all these women to sit at every baccarat table in the room and could have easily negotiated a higher maximum bet. However, it was probably part of the fun for him, looking like the big banana to about 20 attractive Asian women.
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In general though you are absolutely right that sometimes “Baccarat teams” do come to the tables with ostensibly independent bankrolls to try to circumvent the posted limits.

However I have not noticed or heard of a whale with special limits bothering with that sort of thing.