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February 22nd, 2022 at 8:32:40 PM permalink
I know basic strategy perfectly. I have uncertainty however on what is the best play when I have received a 3rd card and my total is12-16. Iíve seen that you shouldnít hit a 3 card 16 against a dealer 10, but Iíve never seen a basic strategy for other 3 card totals. Is there such a thing? Any advice?
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February 23rd, 2022 at 2:09:00 AM permalink
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I know basic strategy perfectly. I have uncertainty however on what is the best play when I have received a 3rd card and my total is12-16. Iíve seen that you shouldnít hit a 3 card 16 against a dealer 10, but Iíve never seen a basic strategy for other 3 card totals. Is there such a thing? Any advice?
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Are you familiar with composition dependent basic strategy?
While it primarily applies to single deck (and barely applies to 8 deck), it is out there.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 3:01:54 AM permalink
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I know basic strategy perfectly. I have uncertainty however on what is the best play when I have received a 3rd card and my total is12-16. Iíve seen that you shouldnít hit a 3 card 16 against a dealer 10, but Iíve never seen a basic strategy for other 3 card totals. Is there such a thing? Any advice?
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As Dieter says, Composition dependent strategy constantly re-evaluates how to play and depends on all card's seen or known about up to the time of the decision. 16v10 is one decision that is so borderline that it can have the modifier rule woven into basic strategy for 3 card totals. But even that rule is not necessarily best strategy if you actually knew all cards seen ( You'd be a counter then and counters do not just play basic strategy)
So,
There's basic strategy
There's basic strategy with this super borderline modifier for 16v10
There's basic strategy with a raft of count dependent modifiers
and there's constantly re-evaluated composition dependent strategy for computers to play to.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 3:15:56 AM permalink
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I know basic strategy perfectly. I have uncertainty however on what is the best play when I have received a 3rd card and my total is12-16. Iíve seen that you shouldnít hit a 3 card 16 against a dealer 10, but Iíve never seen a basic strategy for other 3 card totals. Is there such a thing? Any advice?
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Fred Renzeyís book Blackjack blue book I think it is called has some info on this. I believe if any 16 has a 4 or a 5 you should stay against 10 but any other 3 card hands you still hit. Learning all those exceptions will likely save you pennies per year.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 8:57:18 AM permalink
I thought the 16vs10 decision was huge. If a counter can get a 2% edge in AP play, I estimate this 16vs10 decision would count about a 0.6% edge.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 4:17:55 PM permalink
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I thought the 16vs10 decision was huge. If a counter can get a 2% edge in AP play, I estimate this 16vs10 decision would count about a 0.6% edge.
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For a counter itís different ,the op was asking about basic strategy play.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 4:21:30 PM permalink
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February 23rd, 2022 at 5:23:09 PM permalink
Look around the table. In a shoe game, stay if you see a couple of 4s and 5s. You'll save a few cents an hour.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 8:02:32 PM permalink
Thanks everyone for your comments.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 8:22:54 PM permalink
The only other close ones worth thinking about are 10 2 A vs 2 and 10 2 vs 4. The basic strategy says stand but it you've seen quite a few pictures recently then it might be worth hitting them.

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