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January 5th, 2022 at 6:36:00 AM permalink
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Many games can be exploited with a controlled shuffle.



would you mind elaborating on your comment

are you referring to shuffle tracking?___________________thanks

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January 5th, 2022 at 6:39:23 AM permalink
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Many games can be exploited with a controlled shuffle.



would you mind elaborating on your comment

are you referring to shuffle tracking?___________________thanks

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Yes. No.
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January 5th, 2022 at 6:53:07 AM permalink
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Many games can be exploited with a controlled shuffle.



would you mind elaborating on your comment

are you referring to shuffle tracking?___________________thanks

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The Tran family paid dealers to fake their shuffling. So the cards previously tracked could have the outcomes predicted.

This lead to multiple convictions.

The Tran family did not beat the game if Baccarat. They cheated in a manner that gave them guaranteed success (aside from crime doesn't pay, etc).
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January 5th, 2022 at 7:05:03 AM permalink
Here. We use a lot of material from the Tran case for in house training to this day.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/co-founder-casino-cheating-criminal-enterprise-sentenced-36-months-prison-targeting-casinos

References if you care to research.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tran_Organization
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January 5th, 2022 at 10:06:39 AM permalink
I'm revamping my Baccarat betting system/strategy for progression wins on Banker. I never wanted to play Banker because of the vig, but I've been convinced lately that runs of x amount of wins will be much more frequent by playing Banker, so maybe that will make up for the vig somehow. I'm also not pressing my bets until after the 2nd win because 'chop' is such a large part of the results and my session money will last longer when it isn't 'chopped up' by the 'chop'. I used to feel that way about Place Bets too, and maybe I should reconsider that.
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January 5th, 2022 at 10:23:26 AM permalink
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[I mean we do know baccarat can be exploited, look at the Tran family drama.



Exploiting a casino game, cheating and criminal activity involving that play are 3 very different and escalating things.

Saying The Tran Org "exploited" the game is like saying Al Capone was a businessman.
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January 5th, 2022 at 11:20:53 AM permalink
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I'm revamping my Baccarat betting system/strategy for progression wins on Banker. I never wanted to play Banker because of the vig, but I've been convinced lately that runs of x amount of wins will be much more frequent by playing Banker, so maybe that will make up for the vig somehow. I'm also not pressing my bets until after the 2nd win because 'chop' is such a large part of the results and my session money will last longer when it isn't 'chopped up' by the 'chop'. I used to feel that way about Place Bets too, and maybe I should reconsider that.
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Almost every casino has EZ Baccarat, Five Treasures, or one of several others that have NO COMMISSIONS NO VIG on the bankers side winning hands.
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January 5th, 2022 at 11:56:25 AM permalink
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I'm revamping my Baccarat betting system/strategy for progression wins on Banker. I never wanted to play Banker because of the vig, but I've been convinced lately that runs of x amount of wins will be much more frequent by playing Banker, so maybe that will make up for the vig somehow. I'm also not pressing my bets until after the 2nd win because 'chop' is such a large part of the results and my session money will last longer when it isn't 'chopped up' by the 'chop'. I used to feel that way about Place Bets too, and maybe I should reconsider that.
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Almost every casino has EZ Baccarat, Five Treasures, or one of several others that have NO COMMISSIONS NO VIG on the bankers side winning hands.
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Yeah, but banker bets win less often to make up for it.
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January 5th, 2022 at 12:32:37 PM permalink
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Quote: ChumpChange

I'm revamping my Baccarat betting system/strategy for progression wins on Banker. I never wanted to play Banker because of the vig, but I've been convinced lately that runs of x amount of wins will be much more frequent by playing Banker, so maybe that will make up for the vig somehow. I'm also not pressing my bets until after the 2nd win because 'chop' is such a large part of the results and my session money will last longer when it isn't 'chopped up' by the 'chop'. I used to feel that way about Place Bets too, and maybe I should reconsider that.
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Almost every casino has EZ Baccarat, Five Treasures, or one of several others that have NO COMMISSIONS NO VIG on the bankers side winning hands.
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Yeah, but banker bets win less often to make up for it.
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Is Chumpchange playing bricks and mortar casinos, or is this a virtual play experiment with play money?
Serious question. no offence meant.
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January 5th, 2022 at 12:50:22 PM permalink
There's no EZ Baccarat. Five Treasures, etc. that I've come across yet. One video said there was a vig no matter what you bet for (P or B) on EZ Baccarat, but it didn't say how much.
As for B & M casinos my plan is to beat Bubble Craps, Craps Tables, Spanish 21, and Baccarat. I may drop by a BJ table, and spend some time at a Roulette table. But the table minimums and my weak bankroll have to be considered before I move up levels or games. Table minimums are $1, $3, $15, $25, $50, and $100 for various games. I want to be ready to move up when I can, so I play the home games almost all the time during the plague times.

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