jjjoooggg
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May 4th, 2021 at 10:26:54 PM permalink
I was invited by a friend to Vegas. Just as we were seatied at a blackjack table, my friend said, " I read the book." So, I looked into card counting.

Curious, how others got into advantage playing.
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billryan
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May 4th, 2021 at 11:07:44 PM permalink
My freshman year in college, I needed money. A friend showed me how we could make $10-15 for less than two hours of work. Soon I was making $100 cash a week, while my older sister was working full-time and bringing home less.
The mob was running these quasi-legal Las Vegas Nights, and if you got on the mailing list, you would get invites you could trade in for chips. We'd do a dooey don't with the promo chips, cash out the real chips, and head out to the next place. It was nice, but my friend told another friend who told a friend, and soon there were a dozen guys scamming them. It didn't take long for them to catch on and tell us we were not welcome.
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jjjoooggg
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May 5th, 2021 at 9:27:31 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

My freshman year in college, I needed money. A friend showed me how we could make $10-15 for less than two hours of work. Soon I was making $100 cash a week, while my older sister was working full-time and bringing home less.
The mob was running these quasi-legal Las Vegas Nights, and if you got on the mailing list, you would get invites you could trade in for chips. We'd do a dooey don't with the promo chips, cash out the real chips, and head out to the next place. It was nice, but my friend told another friend who told a friend, and soon there were a dozen guys scamming them. It didn't take long for them to catch on and tell us we were not welcome.



Sounds like you lived in Vegas most of your life. I would enjoy living there.
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May 5th, 2021 at 11:48:29 AM permalink
This site discouraged me from ever trying to AP blackjack. Everything I read says the time for AP ended decades ago and it痴 essentially impossible to escape the heat in the current era

Even without heat it痴 a long arduous grind before you can be reasonably confident of realizing a 1% edge.
It痴 all about making that GTA
mwalz9
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May 5th, 2021 at 11:50:14 AM permalink
Quote: Ace2

This site discouraged me from ever trying to AP blackjack. Everything I read says the time for AP ended decades ago and it痴 essentially impossible to escape the heat in the current era



I just play 100% basic strategy for fun. I dont count cards. Doesnt it seem most casinos by going to 8 deck games, cutting off at leats one of the 8 decks, etc...make card counting near impossible? Do you have to find a single or double deck game to be a true AP?
billryan
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May 5th, 2021 at 12:18:10 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

This site discouraged me from ever trying to AP blackjack. Everything I read says the time for AP ended decades ago and it痴 essentially impossible to escape the heat in the current era

Even without heat it痴 a long arduous grind before you can be reasonably confident of realizing a 1% edge.



It is a grind. However, if you can get to the point where you have a 1% edge and the bankroll to bet $100 a hand, the rewards can add up quickly.
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billryan
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May 5th, 2021 at 12:20:42 PM permalink
Quote: mwalz9

I just play 100% basic strategy for fun. I dont count cards. Doesnt it seem most casinos by going to 8 deck games, cutting off at leats one of the 8 decks, etc...make card counting near impossible? Do you have to find a single or double deck game to be a true AP?




No. The fewer decks the better, but some eight-deck games are okay.
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DJTeddyBear
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May 5th, 2021 at 12:43:17 PM permalink
Although I'm in the top 10 of posters here, and this forum is a magnet for advantage players, I'm not one of them. I'm totally recreational. Oh, sure, I've used some of the info I've gotten about AP to my advantage, but no, I'm no AP.

In the before times, I would visit a casino for just a few hours, every couple weeks, plus just one or two multiple day Vegas trips. Most of that time is spent in poker room or at the craps table.

On the other hand, on the occasional times I play blackjack, if I hear anyone make a comment about 'playing by the book', I say that I'm friends with the author. THAT tends to be a conversation starter. 🤪
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May 5th, 2021 at 12:49:24 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

Although I'm in the top 10 of posters here, and this forum is a magnet for advantage players

Actully, It's really not.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
jjjoooggg
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May 5th, 2021 at 2:36:04 PM permalink
Irony is that the guy who introduced me to card counting wasn稚 bright. He was a collegiate track athlete who tried drugs. He seemed drug damaged. I doubt that he came close to winning blackjack. He became a fitness trainer.
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May 5th, 2021 at 5:31:58 PM permalink
Don't do drugs. Leave them for the professionals.
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May 6th, 2021 at 12:15:50 AM permalink
my recent reintro (first intro was the initial establishment of a casino in my city in australia, about 1985), I think, was a documentary on the MIT team, and a news article on Don Johnson. Then got thinking. Then started tinkering online. One thing leads to the next
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May 8th, 2021 at 3:39:06 AM permalink
Quote: Wellbush

my recent reintro (first intro was the initial establishment of a casino in my city in australia, about 1985), I think, was a documentary on the MIT team, and a news article on Don Johnson. Then got thinking. Then started tinkering online. One thing leads to the next

HOW DID YOU GET INTO ADVANTAGE PLAYING.

You Advantage Play? I find that a little hard to swallow after reading some of your posts. I guess you could be just trolling people.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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May 8th, 2021 at 10:48:02 AM permalink
I was told they don't build those casinos on winners. Then I said, there must be a way someone can win.
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May 9th, 2021 at 6:23:52 AM permalink
At Las Vegas casinos, it was the new player signups that I found first. Then some coupons in the RJ.
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