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November 3rd, 2019 at 7:37:34 PM permalink
Jackpot Hold 'Em is a new game by AGS on field trial at the Sahara (formerly the SLS, which was formerly the Sahara). The game takes Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em and makes these changes:

1. Player may see first card on the flop before the Big Raise decision.
2. Big Raise maybe for 3x only (as opposed to 4x)
3. Blind (or what they call the X-TRA Bonus) is pumped up a little the full house and flush.

You may play the demo at the AGS web site.

The math on this will take my computer 23.5 days to loop through on a single core, so we'll have to be patient on that. However, we can start talking about it now.

The question for the poll is would you play Jackpot Hold 'Em?
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November 4th, 2019 at 6:23:36 AM permalink
Results from the first four types of hands are in -- offsuit 2/3, 2/4, 2/5, and 2/6.

Here is the first decision-point strategy for these hands. The player's hole cards are along the top row and the first flop card is in the right column. A key follows the table.

Flop 2h,3d 2h,4d 2h,5d 2h,6d
2h N N N N
2d R R R R
2c R R R R
3h R C C C
3d N C C C
3c R C C C
4h C R C C
4d C N C C
4c C R C C
5h C C R C
5d C C N C
5c C C R C
6h C C C R
2h C C C N
6c C C C R
7h C C C C
7d C C C C
7c C C C C
8h C C C C
8d C C C C
8c C C C C
9h C C C C
9d C C C C
9c C C C C
Th C C C C
Td C C C C
Tc C C C C
Jh C C C C
Jd C C C C
Jc C C C C
Qh C C C C
Qd C C C C
Qc C C C C
Kh C C C C
Kd C C C C
Kc C C C C
Ah C C C C
Ad C C C C
Ac C C C C


R = Raise
C = Check
N = Impossible

This is a rather worthless statistic, but for these awful starting hands, the house edge is 81.95%, as defined as the ratio of player loss to Ante bet. The average final wager is 2.99 units, so the element of risk is 27.42%.
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November 4th, 2019 at 7:32:38 AM permalink
I really think that -hold'em- is one word slang (albeit a contraction) in the same sense that -helluva- is one word slang.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see if you can devise a simple strategy since learning optimal appears to be out of the question.
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November 4th, 2019 at 10:19:20 AM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

I really think that -hold'em- is one word slang (albeit a contraction) in the same sense that -helluva- is one word slang.



I go with Texas hold 'em, with a space, mainly because that is the Huntington Press standard. I'm sure there is old stuff on my site that omits the space or both the space and apostrophe.
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November 4th, 2019 at 5:46:16 PM permalink
To first order the strategy should be similar to UTH strategy except that you will raise pre-flop when the revealed flop card pairs one of your hole cards - or perhaps gives you a 3-card straight flush.
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November 16th, 2019 at 9:34:13 PM permalink
24.5 days of computer looping are done (over multiple computers and cores). Here is the bottom line:

House edge relative to Ante bet = 2.38%
Average bet = 3.66 units
Element of risk = 0.65%.

You saw it here first.

More details to follow.
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November 18th, 2019 at 2:54:39 PM permalink
My Jackpot Hold 'Em page down includes a base game analysis and is live. I should be adding information on strategy soon.
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November 18th, 2019 at 7:57:01 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

24.5 days of computer looping are done (over multiple computers and cores). Here is the bottom line:

House edge relative to Ante bet = 2.38%
Average bet = 3.66 units
Element of risk = 0.65%.

You saw it here first.

More details to follow.



Reasonable numbers for a carnival game. I’d try it.
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