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September 23rd, 2018 at 7:14:13 PM permalink
I got all of that in the title :) .... oh and can an ETG have felt? or does it HAVE to contain a screen in front of the user?
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September 24th, 2018 at 4:04:10 AM permalink
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I got all of that in the title :) .... oh and can an ETG have felt? or does it HAVE to contain a screen in front of the user?



In my experience, it runs the entire gamut from no electronics to complete automation. If you go to G2E (the big annual sales show) or YouTube G2E Asia the last few years, you see a huge variation. CasinoJournal is a trade publication that does a good job of covering them, and a free subscription lets you look at their archives. There are a lot of other sources, but those are two I use.

Lots of them are on felt. There are games that deal normally but use electronic chips. There are other games that deal electronically but dealers take and pay physical chips. (That seems to be popular in Macau.)

There are games that feed to live dealers in another room and use consoles. There are games that deal live at your table, but through a card-reading shuffler that tracks the result as the dealer puts cards in front of you, with either electronic or physical chips.

One fun roulette out there is pretty usual, but has a random pneumatic ball-shooter that throws 1 or 2 balls at the press of a button - the vendor sells it as a control that can be passed to the players or dealers.

Games with progressives pretty much require an electronic tote board, usually with manual input as to how many are playing the progressive, but sometimes a sensor auto-reports. Most baccarat tables have a tote board, but have a manual input required from the dealer each hand.

I don't think there's any table game now that doesn't have an option for some electronic enhancement, and most if not all have completely automated versions on the market. So it comes back in many cases to what the casino wants to pay for and offer.
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September 24th, 2018 at 11:38:26 AM permalink
I’m not sure if Babs answered the question that you were asking.

Of course, I’m not sure I am either.

One HUGE difference is whether it is taxed as a table game or slot machine.

And the criteria for that determination varies by jurisdiction.
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September 24th, 2018 at 1:47:24 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I’m not sure if Babs answered the question that you were asking.

Of course, I’m not sure I am either.

One HUGE difference is whether it is taxed as a table game or slot machine.

And the criteria for that determination varies by jurisdiction.



I'm not sure I did, either, but then I thought the question was quite general and vast. I might not understand the question.

There's such a huge variation in products available, i wasn't looking at what point of automation would change it from slot to table, or whether it really ever does, if it's based on a randomizer that emulates the unaugmented game.

Take craps. If each die is represented by 6 random numbers that are equally attainable and independent (maybe an RNG choosing between 0 and 1 to 8 places, and each sector is equally assigned ), but the whole thing is in an electronic case, is it craps or a slot? I say craps. But fully electronic. Those are available, but I don't know who had them installed.

If that's a slot by jurisdiction, what about bubble craps, with full physical dice rolled by a bouncing table, but credits and chips are electronic? I say craps. But craps are illegal in Florida, and you can find that machine in most casinos here anyway.

Or electronic dice or cards, but there are physical chips won and lost, placed and paid by players and dealers? I say craps. Maybe not. Depends on where that line is drawn.
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