The player said he's heard of it, then the dealer asks "Do you know who runs Wizard of Odds? It's run by the casinos to make you lose your money."
I laughed and really wanted to tell the dealer what a tool he is.
"All betting systems are worthless. However, for the mathematically challenged, here is a forum of your own."
Quote: RomesWow. I've actually had a few dealers refer me to WOO for correct strategies, but I've NEVER had one tell me it's run by casinos to make you lose money lol. Jesus I wonder if this was a rogue employee or if the casino itself is trying to pump this BS out to the community to stop players from learning how to properly play (and still lose) on their games.
Haha, I don't think he has bad intentions, he's just terribly uninformed. He gave me crap the first time I played with him, and I've heard him tell someone "AK is useless in this game". I just feel bad because I know a lot of new players will take the dealer's advice seriously.
Quote: ajtHaha, I don't think he has bad intentions, he's just terribly uninformed. He gave me crap the first time I played with him, and I've heard him tell someone "AK is useless in this game". I just feel bad because I know a lot of new players will take the dealer's advice seriously.
He may not have had bad intentions, but he would be liable for defamation per se if anyone cared or knew who the dealer was...
I think about 50% of the casino dealers in Las Vegas (and 75% of the ticket writers working in the casinos' sportsbooks) would qualify for that description. Both parts.Quote: DeucekiesI remember one former coworker who absolutely fit the definition of "degenerate". This dealer gave some of the worst advice to players I had ever heard.
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The player said he's heard of it, then the dealer asks "Do you know who runs Wizard of Odds? It's run by the casinos to make you lose your money."
I always secretly suspected that the Wizard is actually Sheldon Adelson.
Quote: ajtThe player said he's heard of it, then the dealer asks "Do you know who runs Wizard of Odds? It's run by the casinos to make you lose your money."
I get that accusation from time to time in my Email. I never bother to deny it. If it were true, then it would be quite the conspiracy as plenty of legitimate sources agree with me on hundreds of games.
I think this guy is probably a member here. IIRC someone posteted something simular.Quote: ajtI was playing UTH this weekend and another player at the table made a 4x bet on something like A7o or K7o (I forgot the exact hand but it was a correct 4x bet hand). He won and the dealer told him how lucky he was. Then he asked him "Have you heard of Wizard of Odds?"
The player said he's heard of it, then the dealer asks "Do you know who runs Wizard of Odds? It's run by the casinos to make you lose your money."
I laughed and really wanted to tell the dealer what a tool he is.
It makes sense that dealers would spew this type of information. They have selective memory just like the players do. They think they know better than everyone so WOO must be owned the casino's.
There's probably a feeling of, "I'm a dealer I know best" It must suck to be a dealer yet you don't even know basic strategy for the game's you deal, yet some young kids whose studied a bit knows much more than you do about the game.
I have heard multiple dealers claim card counting doesn't really work.
It must suck to be a BJ dealer for year's and yet you can't beat the game yourself, but then some card counter come in and crushes it.
I've had plenty of in-person conversations with Mike, and I've seen Sheldon a few times at the Venetian or on TV, but I've never seen them in the same room together...Quote: DRichI always secretly suspected that the Wizard is actually Sheldon Adelson.
Quote: MathExtremistI've had plenty of in-person conversations with Mike, and I've seen Sheldon a few times at the Venetian or on TV, but I've never seen them in the same room together...
Coincidence? YOU DECIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Quote: RSQuote: MathExtremistI've had plenty of in-person conversations with Mike, and I've seen Sheldon a few times at the Venetian or on TV, but I've never seen them in the same room together...
Coincidence? YOU DECIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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His name, was Robert Paulson.
They are different people with different job responsibilities. Sheldon is only in charge of the Asian market and Mike has the Western territory. Shelton is more interested in slots and Raiders.Quote: MathExtremistI've had plenty of in-person conversations with Mike, and I've seen Sheldon a few times at the Venetian or on TV, but I've never seen them in the same room together...
Quote: DeucekiesBoy oh boy, calling Mike Sheldon Adelson. If that's not a personal insult, I don't know what is. ;)
I believe he would gladly accept that insult as long as it was accompanied by the net worth.
Quote: DJTeddyBear... on the other hand, could Mike's brief employment at LV Sands be a source of the rumor?
Just because he says he is no longer employed there, does not necessarily make it true.