MidwestAP
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October 27th, 2017 at 8:58:40 AM permalink
'Edge Sorting' is the name of a technique used to align cards of certain values in a way that provides an advantage on subsequent plays of the same card. It is often and most usually (to my knowledge) done using the asymmetry of the edges of card backs, thus deriving the name 'edge sorting'. But, that doesn't make it exclusive to only asymmetric edges. Any asymmetry in the card back is susceptible to edge sorting, such as logo's, and other asymmetric designs, boxes, colors, etc.

Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.
Ibeatyouraces
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October 27th, 2017 at 9:07:55 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

'Edge Sorting' is the name of a technique used to align cards of certain values in a way that provides an advantage on subsequent plays of the same card. It is often and most usually (to my knowledge) done using the asymmetry of the edges of card backs, thus deriving the name 'edge sorting'. But, that doesn't make it exclusive to only asymmetric edges. Any asymmetry in the card back is susceptible to edge sorting, such as logo's, and other asymmetric designs, boxes, colors, etc.

Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

Looks good go me.
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DRich
Joined: Jul 6, 2012
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October 27th, 2017 at 9:23:16 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

'Edge Sorting' is the name of a technique used to align cards of certain values in a way that provides an advantage on subsequent plays of the same card. It is often and most usually (to my knowledge) done using the asymmetry of the edges of card backs, thus deriving the name 'edge sorting'. But, that doesn't make it exclusive to only asymmetric edges. Any asymmetry in the card back is susceptible to edge sorting, such as logo's, and other asymmetric designs, boxes, colors, etc.

Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

It is generally called that because it needs to be the edge of the card. Usually only the edge is visible when looking at the next card coming out of the shoe..
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CyrusV
Joined: Aug 8, 2015
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October 30th, 2017 at 8:36:09 AM permalink
Genting casinos in the UK have placed an additional front piece containing brushes on all shoes, you can no longer see any card prior to it being drawn from the shoe. Once the cards are out "no more bets is declared", all cards are shimmied across the table "washed" between shoes.

It may be different in inside the private VIP rooms, I somehow doubt it.
FleaStiff
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October 30th, 2017 at 9:36:57 AM permalink
Quote: HunterhillIn

the above example I meant he was confusing him with Steve Forte in regards to the cheating incident in a Borgata hotel room.

Yes. you are correct, I was totally confused as to the names involved and was indeed thinking of Steve Forte who was the one arrested at the Borgata "video" poker incident. Thank you. I did not mean to confuse anyone since obviously I was sufficiently confused already.

the fact remains, however, that former crooks do not have good prospects to become consultants to casinos for the simple reason that people just do not place trust in ex-cons.
FleaStiff
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October 30th, 2017 at 9:41:20 AM permalink
A very simple solution. Easy to adopt. No training involved.
Puckerbutt
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August 21st, 2019 at 5:55:26 PM permalink
https://www.flushdraw.net/news/phil-ivey-borgata-update-wsop-event-58-winnings-confirmed-garnished/
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DRich
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August 21st, 2019 at 6:15:05 PM permalink
Very interesting. I would assume they would also attach his bank accounts.
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darkoz
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August 21st, 2019 at 6:36:40 PM permalink
The Borgata also attempted to claim Ivey and Sun constituted a criminal partnership and sued under Rico laws

It was a bid to triple the judgement to \$30 million.

The first attempt failed but they have appealed.

It will give a black mark to rico and AP if 2 people now make up a criminal organization (and he wasnt even charged with a crime smh)

https://www.playusa.com/phil-ivey-lawsuit-poker/
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GWAE
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