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September 2nd, 2010 at 2:23:20 AM permalink
I've heard there is a craps side bet at the Boulder Station called Replay. It pays if a shooter makes the same point at least 3 times. The pay table depends on the point and number of times made. That place is rather far from my house. If that place is on anybody's beaten path, I'd appreciate a confirmation on the rules. Thanks.
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January 27th, 2011 at 9:07:10 PM permalink
According to this press release, it's also at the Orleans. That PR was last month, though; can anyone confirm if it's still there?
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January 27th, 2011 at 11:36:19 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

According to this press release, it's also at the Orleans. That PR was last month, though; can anyone confirm if it's still there?



It was there in November too.

It's an awful bet, as if a shooter makes 3 of the same point in the row, I've done alright already. I don't need no stinking side bet. Hit 4 4's in a roll, and I'm going to be going happy anyways. Actually just hit any 3 points, it's a good roll.

It was getting a bit of action, but the dealers were only half selling it. The All (Tall/Small) or firebet is much more engaging.
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January 27th, 2011 at 11:55:03 PM permalink
Some crap players like it, in the sense that's it's easier to make than the fire bet.
Some shooters have "signature numbers" that they seem to hit more often.

Seeing these new crap bets, I'm surprised that the "Hard Pass" bet's time isn't due.
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January 28th, 2011 at 4:27:57 AM permalink
Quote: Paigowdan

I'm surprised that the "Hard Pass" bet's time isn't due.



OK, I'll bite, what's that?
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January 28th, 2011 at 5:53:43 AM permalink
Patent is here.

Since the game is licensed by the same folks who distribute PaiGowDan's game (DEQ), maybe he can get us a bit of information.
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January 28th, 2011 at 5:56:25 AM permalink
Never mind, this is old: the Wizard has already analyzed Replay Craps.
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January 29th, 2011 at 4:01:54 AM permalink
I'm a new guy from 'lil ole' England and have just started to get into craps - or 'Dice' as it's known over here. Please humor me for a moment. Two Math questions.

1) If there was a craps game that had no come out roll, no point and it was simply a case of place bets (paying at 7-6, 7-5 and 9-5) playing against the 7, what would the house edge be?
2) Here in UK , casinos pay 9.5 -5 on place bets for 4 and 10. What is the house edge, please.
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January 29th, 2011 at 4:07:48 AM permalink
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I'm a new guy



welcome; know that more and more folks have started to quit reading an older thread, so you should start a new thread with a new question

Quote: timbo699

If there was a craps game that had come eout roll, no point and it was simply a case of place bets (paying at 7-6, 7-5 and 9- 5) playing against the 7, what would the house edge be?



for these kinds of questions, go to the Wizards other site, wizardofodds.com, and you will see they are already answered. And actually there is a nice chart at wikipedia for the odds/edge on the various bets in craps.
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January 29th, 2011 at 8:17:49 AM permalink
timbo:

Calculate it yourself.

There are n ways to throw a number. There are 6 ways to throw a 7. Let the payout be P. This is per resolved bet.

HE = ((nP)-6)/(n+6)

So, in the case of a 10 paying 9.5:5.

HE = ((3*1.9)-6)/(3+6)
=(5.7 - 6) / 9
= -.3 / 9 = 3.3333 percent.

To get the HE per roll, simply multiply the HE by the frequency that the bet is resolved, which is (n+6)/36. In the case of your 4 and 10, the factor is 1/4. Therefore, the HE / roll is 0.833 percent.
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