Wildwillis1
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July 18th, 2016 at 6:35:25 PM permalink
Hello there every one. Been wanting to play barracrat for a while now and just haven't gotten around to it. I wanna play the next time I go to Mohegan sun and want yalls advice on the best coarse of action.

Just to give you some guidelines, my bank roll will be around $500-1000, so use that to help you give me the right advice. I've noticed the Mohegan has mostly $25 tables and am unaware if Foxwoods has barracrat. Thank you for your time people and I wise you all heavy winning streaks!
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July 18th, 2016 at 10:58:03 PM permalink
It's a negative expectation game. In other words, you will eventually lose every dollar you choose to put into action on this game. You will lose slightly faster if you bet on the player side, so the proper "strategy" is to bet on the banker side. Just understand that over the long term, you will lose and there is absolutely no way to win (absent loss rebates, which you will not get with a $1,000 bankroll).
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July 19th, 2016 at 2:57:24 AM permalink
I think you can count on Foxwoods having Baccarat.

It's unclear if you ever have played Baccarat before. Your opening paragraph suggests you haven't but I doubt that it is what you mean. Most who want to play have played before. And since you are looking forward to it, I suspect you are into playing in a way that you learned from other players. This will clash horribly with the advice you will get here. You probably are mystified, possibly irked, as to why someone would say to play Banker only, Banker constantly. To get where people are coming from, go to https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/basics/ and absorb all that. If you are unwilling to do this and also unlearn all you learned up till now, this thread will turn into something deplorable in no time flat.

It may be true that there are no Baccarat enthusiasts who have been able to keep themselves from being banned here due to vociferous defense of what are viewed here as gambling fallacies. I think I can at least say none stick around. Typically, there's a lot of name-calling, sneaky attacks, baiting, etc., by irked bacc players. Go back and note I say you should unlearn all you learned up till now, or this will be you - assuming I am right about who you are.

If you are in fact just somebody who wants to try Baccarat out of the blue, you probably are aware there is a house edge. You may want to try a system to beat or reduce the edge. That also will get debunked as fallacy.

It's possible none of the above fits, that you just want to play for the first time and accept the house edge. That edge is low if you simply never bet on ties, but unfortunately the game has very low variance. That means if you flat-bet [you should with that bankroll] you will be just be watching your money drain away pretty consistently.

Good luck to you.
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Wildwillis1
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July 19th, 2016 at 3:28:19 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

I think you can count on Foxwoods having Baccarat.

It's unclear if you ever have played Baccarat before. Your opening paragraph suggests you haven't but I doubt that it is what you mean. Most who want to play have played before. And since you are looking forward to it, I suspect you are into playing in a way that you learned from other players. This will clash horribly with the advice you will get here. You probably are mystified, possibly irked, as to why someone would say to play Banker only, Banker constantly. To get where people are coming from, go to /games/baccarat/basics/ and absorb all that. If you are unwilling to do this and also unlearn all you learned up till now, this thread will turn into something deplorable in no time flat.

It may be true that there are no Baccarat enthusiasts who have been able to keep themselves from being banned here due to vociferous defense of what are viewed here as gambling fallacies. I think I can at least say none stick around. Typically, there's a lot of name-calling, sneaky attacks, baiting, etc., by irked bacc players. Go back and note I say you should unlearn all you learned up till now, or this will be you - assuming I am right about who you are.

If you are in fact just somebody who wants to try Baccarat out of the blue, you probably are aware there is a house edge. You may want to try a system to beat or reduce the edge. That also will get debunked as fallacy.

It's possible none of the above fits, that you just want to play for the first time and accept the house edge. That edge is low if you simply never bet on ties, but unfortunately the game has very low variance. That means if you flat-bet [you should with that bankroll] you will be just be watching your money drain away pretty consistently.

Good luck to you.



While it is true that I have played (if an hour on the wizards training barracrat counts as playing) I have never played in real life. My goal here is to win two hands in a row. I figured that barracrat has the lowest house edge for single bets (i.e. black or red, or the field, I don't wanna play by for this due to the variants) my goal is to bet 1 $500 bet then 1 $1000 and then walk out.
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July 19th, 2016 at 3:40:07 AM permalink
Quote: Wildwillis1

While it is true that I have played (if an hour on the wizards training barracrat counts as playing) I have never played in real life. My goal here is to win two hands in a row. I figured that barracrat has the lowest house edge for single bets (i.e. black or red, or the field, I don't wanna play by for this due to the variants) my goal is to bet 1 $500 bet then 1 $1000 and then walk out.



Well.

I should go back and delete that long-winded post LOL

I think the Wizard said about that Revell dude, that he should have picked Baccarat. As for your apparently similar idea, not so high rolling I guess, breaking it up in to two bets is good. What you are essentially doing is making a low variance game a high variance game, always good in negative expectation. However, variance is always a double-edged sword, a single [or similar] large bet has the best chance of winning against -EV, however, it is also the best way to lose all your money fast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Revell
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Wildwillis1
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July 19th, 2016 at 4:01:18 AM permalink
Was I correct in thinking this would be the best game to play? I understand that I have an equal chance of losing it all but so is gambling. I normally play craps and watch as my bank roll slowly grows smaller. I want the thrill of craps, but with the chance of actually leaving ahead.
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cwazy
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July 19th, 2016 at 4:06:04 AM permalink
Quote: Wildwillis1


While it is true that I have played (if an hour on the wizards training barracrat counts as playing) I have never played in real life. My goal here is to win two hands in a row. I figured that barracrat has the lowest house edge for single bets (i.e. black or red, or the field, I don't wanna play by for this due to the variants) my goal is to bet 1 $500 bet then 1 $1000 and then walk out.



Actually baccarat doesn't have the lowest house edge. That would be craps and blackjack. That said, if you're planning to just walk in and blindly make 2 bets hoping to win, the Banker bet on baccarat is as good as any. Yes, you'll have to pay 5% commission on your win - which means if you win the first hand, you should pay commission immediately and then only bet with the remainder. But it's the only single bet in the casino that you'll win slightly more often than you lose.
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July 19th, 2016 at 4:10:42 AM permalink
You have a less than 25% chance of success and it is almost certain your playing time will last a shorter time than it takes to walk from the garage to the tables. Or, you could go to the automated tables near Sunrise Square and bet $5 a hand on the games being dealt for the cameras. It's the same game in terms of odds. You could play for a while rather than starting that long walk back to the garage after only a few minutes play.
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July 19th, 2016 at 4:14:34 AM permalink
If you don't know BJ basic strategy it is the best game in the house. Yes it has a marginal -EV if you don't bet the Tie. Following patterns and trends is fallacy, yet no worst and equal to flipping a coin. Forget about betting Bank only, the wrong shoe will eat you alive. I sat with many first timers at the tables, betting on a hunch and I've seen them do exceptionally well.

Have fun
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July 19th, 2016 at 5:20:06 AM permalink
Good luck at it. I haven't made it to a live game yet myself but would like a try at it too. Started a thread in the past and got some good links and advise on live play. Vegas Aces comes to mind...

"I want the thrill of craps, but with the chance of actually leaving ahead"
I doubt you will experience much thrill from Bac, when compared to craps.

It does beg the question of what kind of thrill you actually get. I would have to drop my whole craps BR on one hand to feel a buzz. And then it could go "poof" after only 4 cards are dawn. $5 on the line with some odds and some fun (but really bad) other choices as I go; stick calls; dice flying in the air... Hard to beat that even if I lose.

I play the WOV Bac simulator all the time starting by dumping $9500 on TIE and then work with the remaining $500 as my BR, $25 minimum.
Works for me so far.
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