Craps Table Minimums Survey

Most Downtown and some Strip Casinos (and Boulder Highway) offer $5 minimums, with at least 2X odds but more common are 3,4,and 5X, some 10X some 20X some up to 100X.

But you never know on any given day what the minimums will be set at. If the Casino is crowded on a weekend night, of course you'll see higher minimums, and on Sunday, some hold the line, others drop to $3 and down.

The high end might have $25 minimum line bets, odds vary.

During slow periods I've seen a craps crew standing at a $10 table with no takers, why do they do that?

The Golden Nugget is known for raising the limit on a table full of players.

I've had pit bosses grandfather my mins and drop the limits when a group of us came to a dead table. All I had to do was ask.

I'll be in town in September and due to my OCD I'll more than likely hit most of the casinos more than once, I like to Move!
Hey it's Vegas and you only live once.

I'll be looking for low limits with high odds, 12 pays triple on the field and proper proposition payouts. Sure I break my own rules but it's my money, (and then it's the casinos.:) on those hard way bets.

I'd like to keep abreast of the trends at the various casinos as to what and when the minimums change, focusing on but not limited to the casinos that offer the highest odds.

I will stay Downtown, and hit the Strip for a few days as well.

Any help would be appreciated.

Ben Jammin

I have seen $100 min at Bellagio . However there were no shortage of players.

For some reason, I never saw any maximum greater than $5000, even at the higher-limit areas.

>"...I'll be looking for low limits with high odds, 12 pays triple on the field and proper proposition payouts."
Well, that's not going to be changing at the whim of a pit boss. So you can start with a list of "good" casinos.

>I've had pit bosses grandfather my mins and drop the limits when a group of us came to a dead table.
>All I had to do was ask.
Trouble here! You have to form a group and stay with the group to obtain such benefits. If your personal whims cry out to you "mosey on", you have to contend with group voting. Perhaps weigh the advantages and disadvantages in advance and decide what it is likely to be. The problem is that the pit bosses decision on grandfathering and table minimums is based not just on your particular group but also on how crowded his casino is and how crowded the dice pit is. At some point in time, your group may not have much value to him and you can't really predict this because his decision will be based on all the other players in the dice pit.

>I like to Move!
Stay away from those prop bets and you may be more in a mood to stay somewhere.

What is MOST important to you? The 20x odds at MSS and the microbrews there would make me happy and I wouldn't care too much to trek to a distant table that was at 3.00, even if MSS was at 10. If you really value those 3.00 limits then somewhat isolating yourself geographically at MSS is not for you. Would you really trek from Downtown to the Eastside Cannery for their 100x odds? If 100x odds is important to you, I'd start out at the Cannery and only if things did not go well there would I shift to Downtown to seek out 3.00 tables.

For LOW limits, isn't it the Western that is best. Ofcourse the danger of that neighborhood and the casino itself is high. What is a 1.00 table worth if you have to be watching your back all the time? Concentrate on the game.
So then it becomes: El Cortez, Plaza, Golden Gate, Fremont. (Golden Gate may kick up their minimums a bit more readily than other places).

I like to visit other casinos too, but not hop about whimsically. So for me it would be MSS since I'd value the 20x and the ale, else I'd do the Cannery/SamsTown.

Good luck.

I am planning to try out Craps @ Sam's Town soon and try their $5 table minimums and 20x odds/$3000 max odds bet/$5,000 max table. However, it would be nice to know beforehand about their middle/sucker bet limits, if there are any.

What is the common maximum bet on a hard-way/proposition at Sam's Town (or any vegas casino)? Is it a $100 chip max per roll?

Wouldn't it be nice to throw in a $100 chip (or more if possible) on a 15 to 1 Yo/Easy Craps and win a nice $1,500 after losing several thousands past my bankroll limit? I'm just a sucker. ;)

I've never had that question before. I would think a large Strip casino would take 20K or so on any conventional bet on the table. Sam's Town would be less, I'd guess 5K.

If you have to make a single longshot wager at about 15 to 1, I'd recommend any split (2 numbers) in roulette. House edge of 5.26%, and 2.70% in single-zero. In comparison, the yo and 3 are 11.11% at most casinos, and 16.67% at Harrah's properties, except Caesars Palace, which is also 11.11%.

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I've never had that question before. I would think a large Strip casino would take 20K or so on any conventional bet on the table. Sam's Town would be less, I'd guess 5K.

If you have to make a single longshot wager at about 15 to 1, I'd recommend any split (2 numbers) in roulette. House edge of 5.26%, and 2.70% in single-zero. In comparison, the yo and 3 are 11.11% at most casinos, and 16.67% at Harrah's properties, except Caesars Palace, which is also 11.11%.

Yeah, same thing for the 30-to-1 craps bets at 13.89% vs. the roulette single-number 35-to-1 at 5.26%. When I was in Reno in September I bought $40 worth of roulette chips, which I never, never do, just to bet on some single numbers during a break from playing craps. Didn't win any, though. Had to be in $5 increments, though, whereas in craps you can bet $1 on the 2 or 12. My roulette dream was to parlay once and win $6475.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

Quote: BenJammin

I'll be looking for low limits with high odds, 12 pays triple on the field and proper proposition payouts. Sure I break my own rules but it's my money, (and then it's the casinos.:) on those hard way bets.

I'd like to keep abreast of the trends at the various casinos as to what and when the minimums change, focusing on but not limited to the casinos that offer the highest odds.

The Cannery Casinos have 100X odds and three dollar minimums. There is one in North Las Vegas, one on Boulder Strip next to Sam's Town, and one in the Marriot Resort on the West side of town. The one on the Boulder Strip Eastside Cannery almost always has a $3 minimum.

Route #107 bus leaves every 25 minutes from the bus stop by the Golden Nugget (walk between the GN and the Four Queens to Carson Avenue) and takes less than 30 minutes to get to Eastside Cannery. That is your cheapest way to get there. The bus runs 24 hours (all different headways but slowest is 60 minutes between 1AM and 2AM).

It is about 6.5 miles from Fremont Street so it is a very lengthy walk.

Wizard wrote:
If you have to make a single longshot wager at about 15 to 1, I'd recommend any split (2 numbers) in roulette. House edge of 5.26%, and 2.70% in single-zero. In comparison, the yo and 3 are 11.11% at most casinos, and 16.67% at Harrah's properties, except Caesars Palace, which is also 11.11%.

Ben Jammin's Qusetion to the Wizard,
If Roulette has 36 numbers, 37 on single zero and 38 on double zero, and a Yo 11 has two out of 36 possible dice combinations, or 1 in 18, the which is more likely to hit?

On a 15 to 1 shot, even with the higher casino advantage wouldn't it be more likely to hit the YO in the short run?

saw a You Tube thing from Steve Bourie ( American Casino Guide You Tube Channel) on Sam's Town. Looks like a pretty good place to play Craps as well as some other games.

I too Like MSS, but prefer $5 with max odds. Fits my budget better. Those $10 line bets with odds, two come bets with odds and/or a place bet or two can add up quick, and when that 7 comes...Ouch!

Quote: BenJammin

Wizard wrote:
If you have to make a single longshot wager at about 15 to 1, I'd recommend any split (2 numbers) in roulette. House edge of 5.26%, and 2.70% in single-zero. In comparison, the yo and 3 are 11.11% at most casinos, and 16.67% at Harrah's properties, except Caesars Palace, which is also 11.11%.

Ben Jammin's Qusetion to the Wizard,
If Roulette has 36 numbers, 37 on single zero and 38 on double zero, and a Yo 11 has two out of 36 possible dice combinations, or 1 in 18, the which is more likely to hit?

On a 15 to 1 shot, even with the higher casino advantage wouldn't it be more likely to hit the YO in the short run?

For the Yo, the actual odds are 17 to 1 against it hitting. For two numbers in roulette, the odds are 18 to 1 against. The Yo pays 15 to 1, the roulette 17 to 1, so you're getting closer to a true payoff in exchange for a slightly lower probability of winning a given bet (.05263 vs. .05555).
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA

Yes but I'd rather play Craps than Roulette. I can tell you I've hit the YO many times.
Roulette is a nice sit down game, but I prefer the fast and furious action of a hot Craps table.

Quote: BenJammin

Yes but I'd rather play Craps than Roulette. I can tell you I've hit the YO many times.
Roulette is a nice sit down game, but I prefer the fast and furious action of a hot Craps table.

I agree in general, but for a longshot bet, hoping to catch "lightning in a bottle", the roulette single-number offers a higher payoff (35:1), combined with a much lower HA. OTOH, you probably have to bet at least $5 on single numbers in roulette, but can usually bet only $1 on craps prop bets. When I was in Reno recently, in between sessions at the craps table I sat down at a roulette wheel and dumped $40 into single numbers, intending to parlay any win, of which I had none.
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA