Can Roulette Be Beaten?
July 27th, 2023 at 1:53:48 AM
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I figured that.Quote: WizardQuote: MentalMike, I can bet as little as 10 cents on single-zero roulette online. Did you use single-zero and 200 bets as a bankroll?
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I used $1 as the winning goal and single-zero roulette.
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So long as you're aware of EB's likely snake-oil proof.
But don't hold your breath. He won't even be producing that.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 2:32:45 AM
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OK. Consider Starting with a $100 bankroll. Each wager 10% of whatever bankroll you have left, rounded down to the nearest dollar.
So, If you have $1000 you wager $100. If you lose, you wager $90 and if you win you wager $110
Wager on even money bets. Win 80% of wagers, on average.
This is what EvenBob claims he can do: Win 80% of the Even Money wagers that he places.
He does not claim to be a billionaire, nor does he want to.
Your bankroll would grow exponentially. After 365 wagers, your $100 might reasonably turn into >$10,000,000,000
You might reasonably expect the odd 3 losing wager streak occasionally which would set you back 27% of your bankroll.
You have absolutely microscopic chance of going bust.
Here's 3 charts from three simulations. They turn $100 into typically $6 billion to $20 billion after 365 wagers.
And EvenBob has claimed that he's had this ability for decades. And not utilised it except to pay his household bills.
Pigs can fly, but they choose not to.
So, If you have $1000 you wager $100. If you lose, you wager $90 and if you win you wager $110
Wager on even money bets. Win 80% of wagers, on average.
This is what EvenBob claims he can do: Win 80% of the Even Money wagers that he places.
He does not claim to be a billionaire, nor does he want to.
Your bankroll would grow exponentially. After 365 wagers, your $100 might reasonably turn into >$10,000,000,000
You might reasonably expect the odd 3 losing wager streak occasionally which would set you back 27% of your bankroll.
You have absolutely microscopic chance of going bust.
Here's 3 charts from three simulations. They turn $100 into typically $6 billion to $20 billion after 365 wagers.
And EvenBob has claimed that he's had this ability for decades. And not utilised it except to pay his household bills.
Pigs can fly, but they choose not to.
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Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 2:55:19 AM
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So convince me if I'm wrong, cus I'm sitting here in a dental floss thong, just under 400 bets would make you a rich master of roulette?Quote: OnceDearOK. Consider Starting with a $100 bankroll. Each wager 10% of whatever bankroll you have left, rounded down to the nearest dollar.
So, If you have $1000 you wager $100. If you lose, you wager $90 and if you win you wager $110
Wager on even money bets. Win 80% of wagers, on average.
This is what EvenBob claims he can do: Win 80% of the Even Money wagers that he places.
He does not claim to be a billionaire, nor does he want to.
Your bankroll would grow exponentially. After 365 wagers, your $100 might reasonably turn into >$10,000,000,000
You might reasonably expect the odd 3 losing wager streak occasionally which would set you back 30% of your bankroll.
You have absolutely microscopic chance of going bust.
Here's 3 charts from three simulations. They turn $100 into typically $6 billion to $20 billion after 365 wagers.
And EvenBob has claimed that he's had this ability for decades. And not utilised it except to pay his household bills.
Pigs can fly, but they choose not to.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 27th, 2023 at 2:58:36 AM
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Quote: heatmapi hope one day someone comes out with a documentary about all the fake ai personalities that they let loose on the internet and most of you are computers fighting with each other
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Can I copyright the phrase "Artificial Stupidity"
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 3:06:58 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfSo convince me if I'm wrong, cus I'm sitting here in a dental floss thong, just under 400 bets would make you a rich master of roulette?Quote: OnceDear
Your bankroll would grow exponentially. After 365 wagers, your $100 might reasonably turn into >$10,000,000,000
You might reasonably expect the odd 3 losing wager streak occasionally which would set you back 30% of your bankroll.
You have absolutely microscopic chance of going bust.
Here's 3 charts from three simulations. They turn $100 into typically $6 billion to $20 billion after 365 wagers.
And EvenBob has claimed that he's had this ability for decades. And not utilised it except to pay his household bills.
Pigs can fly, but they choose not to.
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It's a grind getting from the first $100 up to $1,000,000 typically taking 200 days wagers.
Of course, if you push the boat out and start with $1,000 you could expect the first $1,000,000 after about 100 wagers.
And this 10% of bankroll wager level is just plucked out of the air. It is far from optimal.
If EvenBob claims he can win 80% of the even money wagers that he places, then there is no amount of derision that can come close to doing justice to the follow up claim that he doesn't want to use it to get fantastically rich.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 6:10:38 AM
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Quote: darkozIt's funny how once this Roulette expert got caught unable to tell the difference between a Dalembert and a Martingale he hasn't made a single post in this thread.
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He likes to disappear for days at a time, hoping the heat will die down from the last stupid claim he made.
July 27th, 2023 at 6:30:16 AM
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we fishes take a while to digest.Quote: TigerWuQuote: darkozIt's funny how once this Roulette expert got caught unable to tell the difference between a Dalembert and a Martingale he hasn't made a single post in this thread.
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He likes to disappear for days at a time, hoping the heat will die down from the last stupid claim he made.
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Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 7:49:34 AM
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This has been a fun 24 hours. Yesterday afternoon I go to play at my favorite online casino and I log in and it verifies what state I'm in and I make a bet and this sign comes up on the screen that my bet has not been confirmed. Never seen that before, so I go WTF. Try it a few more times, go to other games and try it same thing happens.
I contact support she says your account is in good standing, I've never seen that happen before. She says she's not even seen that warning before. She hands me off to somebody else and he goes through a bunch of crap and comes back and says he's puzzled, he's going to turn this over to a supervisor. The supervisor comes on and says he has no idea why it's doing this but he'll look into it and get back to me by email.
That was almost 24 hours ago and I've heard nothing and it's still not working. By the way the supervisor said he had never seen that warning before either. Because I was logged in and verified, everything looked absolutely normal, looks absolutely like it always does. I can see my balance, I can see my history, I can add money or take money out I just can't make a bet.
I'm hoping against hope but what I think is happening is I'm being backed off from this casino because I never make deposits all I do is make withdrawals. Because this is a state-run casino that has a state license they can't do what offline casinos can do, they can't just stop your play because they feel like it. They can't just freeze your account and cancel it. They would be in danger of losing their license. But I suspect what they can do is what's happening now, throw a glitch in there that nobody can understand hoping that you will just go away. I've been wondering and wondering if this is going to happen because no Casino in the world likes a consistent winner. I'm going to pursue this right up to the Michigan Casino control board if I have to. I'm very nervous because I really depend on this income now and I might have to drastically change my play at other casinos. I hope not because it's just more work and I don't have time for this.
Has anybody seen this before, does anybody know what this means.
I contact support she says your account is in good standing, I've never seen that happen before. She says she's not even seen that warning before. She hands me off to somebody else and he goes through a bunch of crap and comes back and says he's puzzled, he's going to turn this over to a supervisor. The supervisor comes on and says he has no idea why it's doing this but he'll look into it and get back to me by email.
That was almost 24 hours ago and I've heard nothing and it's still not working. By the way the supervisor said he had never seen that warning before either. Because I was logged in and verified, everything looked absolutely normal, looks absolutely like it always does. I can see my balance, I can see my history, I can add money or take money out I just can't make a bet.
I'm hoping against hope but what I think is happening is I'm being backed off from this casino because I never make deposits all I do is make withdrawals. Because this is a state-run casino that has a state license they can't do what offline casinos can do, they can't just stop your play because they feel like it. They can't just freeze your account and cancel it. They would be in danger of losing their license. But I suspect what they can do is what's happening now, throw a glitch in there that nobody can understand hoping that you will just go away. I've been wondering and wondering if this is going to happen because no Casino in the world likes a consistent winner. I'm going to pursue this right up to the Michigan Casino control board if I have to. I'm very nervous because I really depend on this income now and I might have to drastically change my play at other casinos. I hope not because it's just more work and I don't have time for this.
Has anybody seen this before, does anybody know what this means.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 8:04:24 AM
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The first proof or evidence we EVER see that EvenBob actually gambles, and it's an error screen....lol....
July 27th, 2023 at 8:06:06 AM
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Lol, yes, challenge to prove he wins cancelled. EB can't play due to error screens
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 27th, 2023 at 8:11:10 AM
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Quote: darkozLol, yes, challenge to prove he wins cancelled. EB can't play due to error screens
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This is only at one Casino, Michigan has lots of online casinos. So what is this, am I being backed off, has anybody had this before? I probably do 80% of my play at this casino because they have three roulette wheels with live dealers and all the other casinos only have two.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 8:12:39 AM
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My man, you are NOT being backed off with your sub-$1 bets and a $20 bankroll.....
July 27th, 2023 at 8:15:17 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozLol, yes, challenge to prove he wins cancelled. EB can't play due to error screens
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This is only at one Casino, Michigan has lots of online casinos. So what is this, am I being backed off, has anybody had this before? I probably do 80% of my play at this casino because they have three roulette wheels with live dealers and all the other casinos only have two.
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You aren't being backed off.
You called and they are trying to fix the issue and told you that you are in good standing.
They don't do that. When they back you off they usually are quite rude and don't try to fix the problem.
And they don't bother with subterfuge. They have the right to refuse service and aren't worried about what the state will say
Nice try. No one is fooled.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 27th, 2023 at 8:17:29 AM
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Do we need to set up a Gofundme for your cats?
July 27th, 2023 at 9:51:42 AM
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It's an SEC regulation. When the casino runs out of money, they have to stop taking wagers until they can refinance. Also when you own mor than 20% of a company you have to make a formal takeover bid.
EB is going to have to get a gaming licence if he now operates that casino.
Just *****ng clear cookies!
Rely on the income. Lmao.
Only ever withdraw. Rotflmao.
Backed off. Pmsl.
Did I miss any other howlers?
Ah. 80% of his play. I nearly missed that one.
EB is going to have to get a gaming licence if he now operates that casino.
Just *****ng clear cookies!
Rely on the income. Lmao.
Only ever withdraw. Rotflmao.
Backed off. Pmsl.
Did I miss any other howlers?
Ah. 80% of his play. I nearly missed that one.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 10:11:21 AM
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Wasn't there severe weather in Michigan recently? Maybe the site is glitchy from some sort of server outage. There's 150K without power in MI as of last night amid 60-70 mph winds and severe storms.
July 27th, 2023 at 10:25:47 AM
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OMG, d'Alembert was born over 300 years ago. Both Martingale and even money roulette bets have been around for over 200 years. Nothing new has been written about any of this in 100 years. It is as if this were a music forum, and the biggest threads were "Perry Como or Vic Damone?" and "The vinyl LP record format just a fad and shellac 78 RPM records are here to stay".Quote: darkozIt's funny how once this Roulette expert got caught unable to tell the difference between a Dalembert and a Martingale he hasn't made a single post in this thread.
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There are hundreds of new casino games being offered and some of them have serious leaks. Why can't we generate any interest in discussing them? Instead, we are wasting time and energy on this futile discussion about gambling questions that were settled before the US Civil War. The casinos have tons of money and there is only a limited time to win it all from them. I am doing my part.
Let's focus, people.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
July 27th, 2023 at 10:37:48 AM
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Just got this email from the casino and it's just a boilerplate that they send the people who can't log on. This has nothing to do with my problem, this is what the supervisor sent me? She even signed her name on it, her first name anyway. This is total BS, useless.
I tried again to make a bet, didn't work so I got a hold of support again and the girl had no idea what was wrong put me through to a supervisor and they never came on. I waited 40 minutes they never came on. If I'm not getting backed off what the hell's going on. All my other casinos work just fine. It feels like I'm getting the runaround. Nobody seems to know what the warning sign means, or so they claim. Like I said everything is completely normal it looks exactly like it should and I have full access to the site, I just can't bet. And there's plenty of money in my balance.
I tried again to make a bet, didn't work so I got a hold of support again and the girl had no idea what was wrong put me through to a supervisor and they never came on. I waited 40 minutes they never came on. If I'm not getting backed off what the hell's going on. All my other casinos work just fine. It feels like I'm getting the runaround. Nobody seems to know what the warning sign means, or so they claim. Like I said everything is completely normal it looks exactly like it should and I have full access to the site, I just can't bet. And there's plenty of money in my balance.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 10:39:06 AM
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Quote: EvenBobTh I'm very nervous because I really depend on this income now...
Yes, a dollar a day must be pivotal for you, given the massive losses you've had to have endured over the years.
We're rootin' for ya, Sparky.
Oh, and don't be too proud to visit food banks in order to supplement those food stamps; you've got many whiskered mouths depending on you.
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"What, me worry?"
July 27th, 2023 at 10:55:38 AM
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Guys, don't let EvenBob fool you. He doesn't really depend on the income he gets from playing Roulette. Remember, he's found a way to unequivocally beat the game and has been doing it for years, so he's obviously a millionaire by now.
July 27th, 2023 at 11:02:25 AM
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How convenient you won't be able to offer up any proof you can beat roulette.Quote: EvenBobThis has been a fun 24 hours. Yesterday afternoon I go to play at my favorite online casino and I log in and it verifies what state I'm in and I make a bet and this sign comes up on the screen that my bet has not been confirmed. Never seen that before, so I go WTF. Try it a few more times, go to other games and try it same thing happens.
I contact support she says your account is in good standing, I've never seen that happen before. She says she's not even seen that warning before. She hands me off to somebody else and he goes through a bunch of crap and comes back and says he's puzzled, he's going to turn this over to a supervisor. The supervisor comes on and says he has no idea why it's doing this but he'll look into it and get back to me by email.
That was almost 24 hours ago and I've heard nothing and it's still not working. By the way the supervisor said he had never seen that warning before either. Because I was logged in and verified, everything looked absolutely normal, looks absolutely like it always does. I can see my balance, I can see my history, I can add money or take money out I just can't make a bet.
I'm hoping against hope but what I think is happening is I'm being backed off from this casino because I never make deposits all I do is make withdrawals. Because this is a state-run casino that has a state license they can't do what offline casinos can do, they can't just stop your play because they feel like it. They can't just freeze your account and cancel it. They would be in danger of losing their license. But I suspect what they can do is what's happening now, throw a glitch in there that nobody can understand hoping that you will just go away. I've been wondering and wondering if this is going to happen because no Casino in the world likes a consistent winner. I'm going to pursue this right up to the Michigan Casino control board if I have to. I'm very nervous because I really depend on this income now and I might have to drastically change my play at other casinos. I hope not because it's just more work and I don't have time for this.
Has anybody seen this before, does anybody know what this means.
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A nice smokescreen to change the subject after you were proven wrong confirmed by Mike.
What a lark.
People are winning millions at Michigan online casinos and you think they're worried about your micro stakes?
"Michigan Woman Sues BetMGM Over $3M ‘Glitch’ After Five-Day Roulette Session"
"A Michigan woman who claims she spun an initial $50 stake into $11 million playing an online roulette game at BetMGM is suing the casino giant for failing to pay up."
Let that sink in.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 27th, 2023 at 11:15:46 AM
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If, and it's a big if... If EB had some unassailable edge over the casino, it would have been worth him playing nice with and listening to, real advantage players.... First rule of staying off the casino radar is to chuck them the odd bone. Lose the occasional session. It's what AW calls Shillplay. Give them the idea you're just lucky sometimes. If you rape them every day and never lose and always withdraw, they will look at you as a potential cost and will either restrict you or ban you. They won't fanny around with errors.
Been there got the t shirt. For a regular of this forum, EB sure doesn't seem to know how to 'play the game'
Academic. He's just reporting a glitch. I could suggest to him that his pc clock is too far out or his timezone wrong....vbut will he listen? Will he hell.
Don't hold your breath. EB is not going to demonstrate anything.
Been there got the t shirt. For a regular of this forum, EB sure doesn't seem to know how to 'play the game'
Academic. He's just reporting a glitch. I could suggest to him that his pc clock is too far out or his timezone wrong....vbut will he listen? Will he hell.
Don't hold your breath. EB is not going to demonstrate anything.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 11:33:46 AM
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You aren't being backed off.
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So what the hell is going on then. Here's what it looks like. I log in and it verifies that I live in Michigan and I place a $5 bet on red. You can plainly see I have a bet on red, it lets me place a bet. As soon as the clock runs out, the error message comes up.
This is just one Casino it's hardly the end of the world. But the problem is, if I am getting backed off and I keep playing at the other casinos I'm going to get backed off at those also which means I have to drastically change the way I'm playing. How can you be 100% sure I'm not getting backed off because sure as hell something is going on ithat stinks. I'm not getting any answers from anybody at this casino.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 11:39:10 AM
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I used to play a $1 roulette machine in a casino last century and played even/odd bets and never got more than 3-4 bets ahead before the long slide downward. Their $1 BJ machine was the same. I did play one shoe heads up on a $3 BJ table and turned $30 into $180. So the machines were obviously rigged.
July 27th, 2023 at 12:07:19 PM
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Okay, maybe a stupid question, but did you try googling "Your bet was not confirmed (name of the casino you're using)?" If someone else has had the same problem, maybe someone is talking about it.
July 27th, 2023 at 12:12:20 PM
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Another stupid question.
Did you actually do any of the instructions the host sent you to fix the problem?
Did you actually do any of the instructions the host sent you to fix the problem?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 27th, 2023 at 12:16:03 PM
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He didn't even try clearing out his cache or using a different device. He just presumed the instructions he received from support were wrong. Googling would be too much to ask since he really wants an excuse not to play and also a pretext to further his bogus claim that he is a winner.Quote: TigerWuOkay, maybe a stupid question, but did you try googling "Your bet was not confirmed (name of the casino you're using)?" If someone else has had the same problem, maybe someone is talking about it.
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I have had numerous nasty e-mails suspending my account and withdrawals temporarily while they investigate me. I have been thrown out of one online joint. There is no mistaking when a casino doesn't like your play. EBs's situation sounds like a problem with the cookies all sites leave on your computer.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
July 27th, 2023 at 12:24:01 PM
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Quote: MentalHe didn't even try clearing out his cache or using a different device. He just presumed the instructions he received from support were wrong. Googling would be too much to ask since he really wants an excuse not to play and also a pretext to further his bogus claim that he is a winner.Quote: TigerWuOkay, maybe a stupid question, but did you try googling "Your bet was not confirmed (name of the casino you're using)?" If someone else has had the same problem, maybe someone is talking about it.
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I have had numerous nasty e-mails suspending my account and withdrawals temporarily while they investigate me. I have been thrown out of one online joint. There is no mistaking when a casino doesn't like your play. EBs's situation sounds like a problem with the cookies all sites leave on your computer.
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I've said this before.
EB reads about AP's and desperately, dreamily wants to be one and doesn't know how (he can try learning the difference between a Dalembert and a Martingale to start).
Anyway the timing that his account is having problems literally the day after Wizard responded to his winning roulette claims is highly suspicious.
EB is being evicted from online casinos for beating roulette or 18 yo's in a row. Which to believe more likely?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 27th, 2023 at 12:41:01 PM
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Quote: darkozAnother stupid question.
Did you actually do any of the instructions the host sent you to fix the problem?
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I did better than that I actually hooked up a new router that I had in a box that I've been too lazy to hook up so I have a brand new router and it still the same problem. If I'm logging in and it's verifying me the problem is not on my end. Obviously. If I can find a phone number I'm going to call them on the phone.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 12:46:07 PM
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Quote: MentalHe didn't even try clearing out his cache or using a different device. He just presumed the instructions he received from support were wrong. Googling would be too much to ask since he really wants an excuse not to play and also a pretext to further his bogus claim that he is a winner.Quote: TigerWuOkay, maybe a stupid question, but did you try googling "Your bet was not confirmed (name of the casino you're using)?" If someone else has had the same problem, maybe someone is talking about it.
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I have had numerous nasty e-mails suspending my account and withdrawals temporarily while they investigate me. I have been thrown out of one online joint. There is no mistaking when a casino doesn't like your play. EBs's situation sounds like a problem with the cookies all sites leave on your computer.
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I did the cookies thing yesterday, I hate clearing all that out because then I have to reset everything and there's nothing that recognizes me but I did it and made no difference. The emails you had suspending your account were they from a state run Casino or were they for some offshore place. State run casinos are a totally different animal, they cannot do whatever they feel like doing everything is regulated. It's hard to get a license and they don't want to screw it up and lose that license. If I can't resolve this by tomorrow I'm going to be calling my state gambling Commission on Monday and see what they say.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 12:51:25 PM
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I am going to type very slowly so you understand.Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAnother stupid question.
Did you actually do any of the instructions the host sent you to fix the problem?
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I did better than that I actually hooked up a new router that I had in a box that I've been too lazy to hook up so I have a brand new router and it still the same problem. If I'm logging in and it's verifying me the problem is not on my end. Obviously. If I can find a phone number I'm going to call them on the phone.
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The sentence in bold is quite wrong. The cookie can be associated with a single game. They are stored on your client browser. Cookies are how each individual game remembers which bet level you had the last time you played that game, for example. The game designer can do very complicated things with cookies and sometimes they go bad. You won't notice a cookie problem for a specific game until you try to play that game. You have said nothing that makes me believe you don't have a cookie problem.
Clean out you cache or try on a new device or other browser.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
July 27th, 2023 at 12:53:57 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: MentalHe didn't even try clearing out his cache or using a different device. He just presumed the instructions he received from support were wrong. Googling would be too much to ask since he really wants an excuse not to play and also a pretext to further his bogus claim that he is a winner.Quote: TigerWuOkay, maybe a stupid question, but did you try googling "Your bet was not confirmed (name of the casino you're using)?" If someone else has had the same problem, maybe someone is talking about it.
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I have had numerous nasty e-mails suspending my account and withdrawals temporarily while they investigate me. I have been thrown out of one online joint. There is no mistaking when a casino doesn't like your play. EBs's situation sounds like a problem with the cookies all sites leave on your computer.
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I've said this before.
EB reads about AP's and desperately, dreamily wants to be one and doesn't know how (he can try learning the difference between a Dalembert and a Martingale to start).
Anyway the timing that his account is having problems literally the day after Wizard responded to his winning roulette claims is highly suspicious.
EB is being evicted from online casinos for beating roulette or 18 yo's in a row. Which to believe more likely?
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Whatever. More blah blah blah. The truth is I'm totally dependent on this money now to pay all my bills and if I'm getting backed off I have to know it so I can change my play somehow which is going to be a lot more work. Just today they delivered an expensive new deep freeze that I paid for with Casino money because my brother-in-law is involved with the church food pantry he tells me every month they have leftover frozen food that they have to get rid of because they don't have a space for it at the church and he got five big turkey breast for me and two whole frozen turkeys for nothing. So I bought a new freezer because it's obviously an AP situation. I got the money being an AP and I'm getting the turkeys as an AP move. My cats love turkey and so do I. I can't afford not to get this casino issue settled this is way more than a hobby for me. At my age I have no way to replace this income.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 12:55:44 PM
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It will be a transient fault. I've encountered "bet not confirmed" many times at many online casinos. Mostly it proved to be a timing issue, such as placing the bet fractionally too late. EB needs to do as instructed. Plus check the timezone of his pc. Another obvious is to use a different device on a different network, then a different account on the same network.Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAnother stupid question.
Did you actually do any of the instructions the host sent you to fix the problem?
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I did better than that I actually hooked up a new router that I had in a box that I've been too lazy to hook up so I have a brand new router and it still the same problem. If I'm logging in and it's verifying me the problem is not on my end. Obviously. If I can find a phone number I'm going to call them on the phone.
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Are bonus funds in play?
Back off, this is not.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 1:00:56 PM
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Note to Mike whenever I'm on this thread I notice 123 Vegas casino affiliate link on the left. I think you should look into them. IMO they don't live up to your standards. My personal experience with them has been horrible.Quote: Wizard
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 27th, 2023 at 1:01:44 PM
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Quote: MentalI am going to type very slowly so you understand.Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAnother stupid question.
Did you actually do any of the instructions the host sent you to fix the problem?
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I did better than that I actually hooked up a new router that I had in a box that I've been too lazy to hook up so I have a brand new router and it still the same problem. If I'm logging in and it's verifying me the problem is not on my end. Obviously. If I can find a phone number I'm going to call them on the phone.
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The sentence in bold is quite wrong. The cookie can be associated with a single game. They are stored on your client browser. Cookies are how each individual game remembers which bet level you had the last time you played that game, for example. The game designer can do very complicated things with cookies and sometimes they go bad. You won't notice a cookie problem for a specific game until you try to play that game. You have said nothing that makes me believe you don't have a cookie problem.
Clean out you cache or try on a new device or other browser.
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Already tried it on three different laptops, if you remember I have multiple screens that I use and multiple laptops? Did the cookie thing yesterday. Have tried multiple games at this casino including Baccarat, multiple slot machines, I screwed around for half an hour trying different things and none of them worked I got the same error message on all of them. Let's me place a bet and then says it doesn't recognize the bet. And yes I Googled the warning and got no answer from Google that applies to me. It mostly talks about not being able to verify my account but it does verify my account, I'm always completely logged in and verified and placing bets! That's the frustrating part as you can see from the pics I posted I place bets and it rejects them after the game starts.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 1:03:36 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAnother stupid question.
Did you actually do any of the instructions the host sent you to fix the problem?
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I did better than that I actually hooked up a new router that I had in a box that I've been too lazy to hook up so I have a brand new router and it still the same problem. If I'm logging in and it's verifying me the problem is not on my end. Obviously. If I can find a phone number I'm going to call them on the phone.
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Right
So you didn't follow the instructions to fix the issue. And now you wonder why the problem persists.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 27th, 2023 at 1:04:27 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThe truth is I'm totally dependent on this money now to pay all my bills and if I'm getting backed off I have to know it so I can change my play somehow which is going to be a lot more work.
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EB, you claim to have beaten roulette. You described a win rate that would make any of us a BILLIONAIRE ten times over within 400 bets from a starting bankroll of $100... And a risk of losing that $100 that is virtually zero. And here you are expressing concern at your financial future.
This makes no sense.
Are you seeking help or advice here? Are you accepting help or advice that is or has been offered in good faith?
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 1:06:35 PM
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Quote: OnceDearIt will be a transient fault. I've encountered "bet not confirmed" many times at many online casinos. Mostly it proved to be a timing issue, such as placing the bet fractionally too late. EB needs to do as instructed. Plus check the timezone of his pc. Another obvious is to use a different device on a different network, then a different account on the same network.Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozAnother stupid question.
Did you actually do any of the instructions the host sent you to fix the problem?
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I did better than that I actually hooked up a new router that I had in a box that I've been too lazy to hook up so I have a brand new router and it still the same problem. If I'm logging in and it's verifying me the problem is not on my end. Obviously. If I can find a phone number I'm going to call them on the phone.
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Are bonus funds in play?
Back off, this is not.
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I don't do bonuses. Every other Casino I'm at works just fine not a single problem. I'm not making late bets, How do you make a late bet on slot machine. No time zone issue I'm in Michigan the casinos are in Michigan all the other casinos work fine. Everybody says this is not a back off, I hope to God everybody is correct cuz that would be suck City for me. This is my worst nightmare come true I think about this everyday how much longer are they going to put up with this. Only making withdrawals and no deposits.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 1:15:54 PM
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Quote: OnceDearEB, you claim to have beaten roulette. You described a win rate that would make any of us a BILLIONAIRE ten times over within 400 bets from a starting bankroll of $100... And a risk of losing that $100 that is virtually zero. And here you are expressing concern at your financial future.
This makes no sense.
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Gee, it's almost like he doesn't have a winning system....lol
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The truth is I'm totally dependent on this money now to pay all my bills...... At my age I have no way to replace this income.
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This is just sad in so many ways.
July 27th, 2023 at 1:18:53 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
Are bonus funds in play?
Back off, this is not.
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I don't do bonuses. Every other Casino I'm at works just fine not a single problem. I'm not making late bets, How do you make a late bet on slot machine. No time zone issue I'm in Michigan the casinos are in Michigan all the other casinos work fine. Everybody says this is not a back off, I hope to God everybody is correct cuz that would be suck City for me. This is my worst nightmare come true I think about this everyday how much longer are they going to put up with this. Only making withdrawals and no deposits.
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Did you understand the concept of Shill Play as I outlined earlier?
AP's that come across huge advantage plays do not adopt a regimen of only ever withdrawing. They/we will maybe withdraw a couple of times after big wins, then maybe buy in for $100 and deliberately lose it. That resets certain counters on the account and helps to stop them analysing your play.
It's an absolute schoolboy error to rape the same casino week in week out. If/when they see you have an advantage, your ass is grass. I don't think for one second that you're getting backed off.
What is the ballpark credit balance at this gaff at the moment? Tens of $ , Hundreds? Thousands?
Have you ACTUALLY tried withdrawing all funds today?
Have you ACTUALLY tried depositing funds?
Are all deposited funds fully CLEARED?
It's us against the casinoes here. Unless you want to be your own full team.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 1:24:19 PM
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Quote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
Are bonus funds in play?
Back off, this is not.
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I don't do bonuses. Every other Casino I'm at works just fine not a single problem. I'm not making late bets, How do you make a late bet on slot machine. No time zone issue I'm in Michigan the casinos are in Michigan all the other casinos work fine. Everybody says this is not a back off, I hope to God everybody is correct cuz that would be suck City for me. This is my worst nightmare come true I think about this everyday how much longer are they going to put up with this. Only making withdrawals and no deposits.
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Did you understand the concept of Shill Play as I outlined earlier?
AP's that come across huge advantage plays do not adopt a regimen of only ever withdrawing. They/we will maybe withdraw a couple of times after big wins, then maybe buy in for $100 and deliberately lose it. That resets certain counters on the account and helps to stop them analysing your play.
It's an absolute schoolboy error to rape the same casino week in week out. If/when they see you have an advantage, your ass is grass. I don't think for one second that you're getting backed off.
What is the ballpark credit balance at this gaff at the moment? Tens of $ , Hundreds? Thousands?
Have you ACTUALLY tried withdrawing all funds today?
Have you ACTUALLY tried depositing funds?
Are all deposited funds fully CLEARED?
It's us against the casinoes here. Unless you want to be your own full team.
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Balance is between 50 and 100 I never keep more than that in there because I don't need to. Yesterday I withdrew $25 and 2 hours later deposited back into the account, not a problem. Everything works, everything is as it should be except it won't let me bet. I don't play the same Casino week in and week out, I play at multiple casinos but this one is my favorite because they have three live roulette wheels duh the others only have two. So now you're saying that it is a back off? Make up your mind.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 1:25:09 PM
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Does any AP on here remember the last time their account may have been a back off and they contacted the host who gave them instructions on how to fix the issue and actually mentioned they were in good standing?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 27th, 2023 at 1:26:42 PM
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Oh. And speaking of schoolboy errors.....
If you have raped a casino every session day for the last year, then the very last thing you do is try to talk to support to have them check the standing of your account. When the look in on your account, they get instant and stark visibility of your profit/loss profile to them.
If you have raped a casino every session day for the last year, then the very last thing you do is try to talk to support to have them check the standing of your account. When the look in on your account, they get instant and stark visibility of your profit/loss profile to them.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 1:27:55 PM
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This is just sad in so many ways.
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What is sad about it, you have lots of ways to replace your income if it goes away? My whole social security check is deposited into my investment account that mostly goes for my grandchildren's education eventually. Luckily I only have two grandchildren, thank God. I do have other Investments to provide some income but nothing like playing roulette does. All is not lost, obviously, I just have to figure out a way to make it look like I'm playing like a normal person. Because if this is a back off, it's only the beginning.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 1:29:44 PM
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Quote: darkozDoes any AP on here remember the last time their account may have been a back off and they contacted the host who gave them instructions on how to fix the issue and actually mentioned they were in good standing?
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Does anybody here have experience with state run casinos, offshore casinos do not count. So far it sounds like I'm the only one here that plays at state run Casinos.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 1:31:38 PM
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Quote: OnceDearOh. And speaking of schoolboy errors.....
If you have raped a casino every session day for the last year, then the very last thing you do is try to talk to support to have them check the standing of your account. When the look in on your account, they get instant and stark visibility of your profit/loss profile to them.
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I disagree, I think playing innocent is the best move and it's the first thing you do contact support. This is why I'm contacting the state commission next week, I'm the one that's being violated here not them. If this is indeed a back off which I'm hoping to God it isn't.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
July 27th, 2023 at 1:35:07 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearQuote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDear
Are bonus funds in play?
Back off, this is not.
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I don't do bonuses. Every other Casino I'm at works just fine not a single problem. I'm not making late bets, How do you make a late bet on slot machine. No time zone issue I'm in Michigan the casinos are in Michigan all the other casinos work fine. Everybody says this is not a back off, I hope to God everybody is correct cuz that would be suck City for me. This is my worst nightmare come true I think about this everyday how much longer are they going to put up with this. Only making withdrawals and no deposits.
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Did you understand the concept of Shill Play as I outlined earlier?
AP's that come across huge advantage plays do not adopt a regimen of only ever withdrawing. They/we will maybe withdraw a couple of times after big wins, then maybe buy in for $100 and deliberately lose it. That resets certain counters on the account and helps to stop them analysing your play.
It's an absolute schoolboy error to rape the same casino week in week out. If/when they see you have an advantage, your ass is grass. I don't think for one second that you're getting backed off.
What is the ballpark credit balance at this gaff at the moment? Tens of $ , Hundreds? Thousands?
Have you ACTUALLY tried withdrawing all funds today?
Have you ACTUALLY tried depositing funds?
Are all deposited funds fully CLEARED?
It's us against the casinoes here. Unless you want to be your own full team.
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Balance is between 50 and 100 I never keep more than that in there because I don't need to. Yesterday I withdrew $25 and 2 hours later deposited back into the account, not a problem. Everything works, everything is as it should be except it won't let me bet. I don't play the same Casino week in and week out, I play at multiple casinos but this one is my favorite because they have three live roulette wheels duh the others only have two. So now you're saying that it is a back off? Make up your mind.
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Dont put words in my mouth. I'm saying that I do not suspect or belive that this is a backoff. But I'm telling you that it's a real dumb idea to draw attention to your incessant raping of their game. Don't you realise that they have quite simple auto metrics on all accounts and that accounts do get flagged.
Flagged for being a net burden on their bottom line. Flagged for winning too often, too much, or in an anomalous way. Any AP worth his salt, flies under the radar. The fact you visit other gaffs does nothing to make your winning here look normal.
I've been booted from online gaffs. All you need to do is to take their money too conspicuously.
Good luck resolving this.
It's a pity you have no crediility here, because We AP's try to help eachother, first and foremost.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
July 27th, 2023 at 1:39:00 PM
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Quote: EvenBobWhat is sad about it, you have lots of ways to replace your income if it goes away? My whole social security check is deposited into my investment account that mostly goes for my grandchildren's education eventually. Luckily I only have two grandchildren, thank God. I do have other Investments to provide some income but nothing like playing roulette does. All is not lost, obviously, I just have to figure out a way to make it look like I'm playing like a normal person. Because if this is a back off, it's only the beginning.
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"Man on social security relies on gambling income to pay bills."
Somebody explain to me how that isn't a sad state of affairs....
July 27th, 2023 at 1:41:59 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: OnceDearOh. And speaking of schoolboy errors.....
If you have raped a casino every session day for the last year, then the very last thing you do is try to talk to support to have them check the standing of your account. When the look in on your account, they get instant and stark visibility of your profit/loss profile to them.
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I disagree, I think playing innocent is the best move and it's the first thing you do contact support. This is why I'm contacting the state commission next week, I'm the one that's being violated here not them. If this is indeed a back off which I'm hoping to God it isn't.
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That's funny. You ask for advice then dictate what is bad thinking as best
The hosts are now examining your play fully. They are now determining that you never lose.
In addition they are contacting other online casino properties with all your information and confirming the account activity is similar.
There is nothing in state laws that dictates gambling is a right. Contacting your state assembly is ridiculous. You have been on this forum over a decade and haven't heard about any lawsuits against casinos for evictions? And how casinos have the right to deny service?
Of course you haven't really won and are not getting backed off but if you are, better start looking for a job in McDonald's.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 27th, 2023 at 1:45:16 PM
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Quote: darkozDoes any AP on here remember the last time their account may have been a back off and they contacted the host who gave them instructions on how to fix the issue and actually mentioned they were in good standing?
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I've had my favourite casino take away all my bonus privs, in perpetuity. I was a VIP member, with a personal host who I could call up.
Spontaneously, All VIP features of the website got revoked. I phoned my host and we chatted nicely. He informed me that I no longer met certain VIP criteria. I said. OK. I guess I was to greedy. There was a smile in his voice as he said, he couldnt say. Actual reason was obvious to me. I'd upped my daily deposit rate to £5,000 per day and absolutely raped an AP opportunity, every day for 6 weeks. It was a fair cop.
But there was no subterfuge, It was simply.... We have modified your account permissions as you no longer fit certain criteria..
Another gaff, I got booted from, simply responded on the login page. "ACCOUNT IS BANNED"
And yet another gave "Your account has been suspended: Please contact support" and Support said that they had no authority to discuss my account with me and that I was to write in, sending certain documents. Yeah. Whatever!
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
