djatc
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May 2nd, 2015 at 2:04:07 PM permalink
so i have an offer to stay at a casino, with a minimum of $500 in promo chips. My plan, straight up was to play 25 a hand at bj for less house edge exposure. I was considering using a confederate to make offsetting bets but i would first have to find them, and trust they will pay me. I would offset bets myself but i probably wont get away with it. Any tips and tricks besides the ones i just wrote? I am going to try and negotiate freeplay as its easier to "wash".
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mcallister3200
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May 2nd, 2015 at 2:46:25 PM permalink
I'd just fade the variance and play $25 a hand. Having a confederate play the opposite essentially doubles the expected loss due to twice the bets just to lower the variance. If it was a huge amount of money my answer might be different, but a couple hundred swing either way isn't really going to have an effect on your bankroll utility I'm assuming. Doesnt Shack have some sort of rule in his ten commandments not to hedge unless it's a significant amount of money?
djatc
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May 2nd, 2015 at 3:05:45 PM permalink
I forgot to ask if there were any good craps/roulette/baccarat systems for converting my chips to cash 1:1.
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RS
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May 2nd, 2015 at 3:13:42 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

I forgot to ask if there were any good craps/roulette/baccarat systems for converting my chips to cash 1:1.



Yeah, you bet them on the don't pass line.
Ibeatyouraces
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May 2nd, 2015 at 3:53:00 PM permalink
Are they "play till you lose" chips?
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May 2nd, 2015 at 5:13:06 PM permalink
I would play 'em on three card if they let you.
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djatc
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May 2nd, 2015 at 5:27:50 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Yeah, you bet them on the don't pass line.



There's got to be another step. Should I snap my fingers and yell "WOOooo!" To influence the dice?
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May 2nd, 2015 at 5:55:08 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

I forgot to ask if there were any good craps/roulette/baccarat systems for converting my chips to cash 1:1.


It depends on what you mean by 1:1, since you also mention offsetting bets.

If you mean starting out with $500 in promo chips and ending with $500 in cash, you've just asked how to double your money (assuming each win with a promo chip replaces it with an actual chip of the same value).

If, on the other hand, you want to convert $500 in promo chips to $250, I think the best way is matching pass and don't pass bets on craps. If you bet $250 on pass and $250 on don't, the only way you don't end up with $250 cash is if the come out roll is a 12, in which case I assume you still have the $250 in promo chips that were on the don't; take $125 of those and put them on pass. This is better than $250 red / $250 black in roulette as there is a 1/19 chance that you end up with zero.
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May 2nd, 2015 at 6:08:07 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

It depends on what you mean by 1:1, since you also mention offsetting bets.

If you mean starting out with $500 in promo chips and ending with $500 in cash, you've just asked how to double your money (assuming each win with a promo chip replaces it with an actual chip of the same value).

If, on the other hand, you want to convert $500 in promo chips to $250, I think the best way is matching pass and don't pass bets on craps. If you bet $250 on pass and $250 on don't, the only way you don't end up with $250 cash is if the come out roll is a 12, in which case I assume you still have the $250 in promo chips that were on the don't; take $125 of those and put them on pass. This is better than $250 red / $250 black in roulette as there is a 1/19 chance that you end up with zero.



What's the likelihood of the pb letting me make this bet? I see people get denied all the time making offsetting bets. I never use promo chips, free play is worth a lot more but this time I can only get table promo chips.

Yes they are play till you lose chips.
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May 2nd, 2015 at 6:10:45 PM permalink
Quote: djatc

There's got to be another step. Should I snap my fingers and yell "WOOooo!" To influence the dice?



No "woooo!".

You gotta say some little jingle, like, " papa need new shoes, ace deuce dice!!" Then grunt and snap your fingers simultaneously. This ensures a field number will be rolled, primarily the 2, 12, and to a smaller extent the 3.

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