GeorgePane
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February 24th, 2015 at 1:10:52 PM permalink
I got a friend in a greek casino who said he was a dealer in roullette
he told me he had so much experience from 20 years spinning the ball , that he could land colours whenever he wanted to kick out martingalers at high doubles
he could once in like 50 runs hit a number he wanted
is that correct?
can that be done in major vegas casinos?
thanks
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February 24th, 2015 at 1:16:28 PM permalink
So you're saying he can hit any number as long as he has 50 chances?
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February 24th, 2015 at 1:17:30 PM permalink
Quote: GeorgePane

I got a friend in a greek casino who said he was a dealer in roullette
he told me he had so much experience from 20 years spinning the ball , that he could land colours whenever he wanted to kick out martingalers at high doubles
he could once in like 50 runs hit a number he wanted
is that correct?
can that be done in major vegas casinos?
thanks



He's lying.


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February 24th, 2015 at 1:41:27 PM permalink
sounds like you should go when he is the dealer and let him see you bet on a color, where he is fantastic, but bet on numbers when he is not looking, he stinks on that
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February 24th, 2015 at 2:29:03 PM permalink
Quote: GeorgePane

I got a friend in a greek casino who said he was a dealer in roullette
he told me he had so much experience from 20 years spinning the ball , that he could land colours whenever he wanted to kick out martingalers at high doubles
he could once in like 50 runs hit a number he wanted
is that correct?


Does this mean, "in 50 spins, he could hit a particular number at least once"?

If it does, then this is not impressive; assuming a single-zero wheel, the probability of a particular number not coming up at least once in 50 spins is (36/37)50 = 25.4%, so a particular number will come up at least once in 50 spins about 3 times out of 4.
GeorgePane
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February 25th, 2015 at 4:12:46 AM permalink
well i dont know guys he is retired but he said his experience on a european wheel , hitting whatever colour he wanted was easy... he could try numbers but was hard , though possible once in yes like 50 spins

i hope they dont do such things in vegas roulettes
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February 25th, 2015 at 7:03:12 AM permalink
Quote: GeorgePane

well i dont know guys he is retired but he said his experience on a european wheel , hitting whatever colour he wanted was easy... he could try numbers but was hard , though possible once in yes like 50 spins

i hope they dont do such things in vegas roulettes



they don't do such things in any roulettes
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February 25th, 2015 at 7:18:20 AM permalink
Quote: GeorgePane

well i dont know guys he is retired but he said his experience on a european wheel , hitting whatever colour he wanted was easy... he could try numbers but was hard , though possible once in yes like 50 spins

i hope they dont do such things in vegas roulettes



Since the colors alternate on the wheel, I don't see how achieving a certain color requires less skill than a particular number. For example, if red were my goal, I would set a particular red, like 23, as my goal, and try for that.
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February 25th, 2015 at 7:48:01 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Since the colors alternate on the wheel, I don't see how achieving a certain color requires less skill than a particular number. For example, if red were my goal, I would set a particular red, like 23, as my goal, and try for that.


Quite correct. Although to stir conversation... There was another thread similar to this in which I posted a video of some guy (from his site of course) hitting a certain "section" on the wheel. It was 1 continuous video in which the guy hit the section I think 45/50 times. It was very evident he was skillfully putting the ball in that section. This always worries me about roulette. If he can do it, why can't other roulette dealers?
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February 25th, 2015 at 2:36:52 PM permalink
every answer is correct thanks a lot
by the way does anoyone knows what tales or roulette is?
a scam system or something that works (lower the house edge at maximum possible)
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February 25th, 2015 at 3:05:51 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Quite correct. Although to stir conversation... There was another thread similar to this in which I posted a video of some guy (from his site of course) hitting a certain "section" on the wheel. It was 1 continuous video in which the guy hit the section I think 45/50 times. It was very evident he was skillfully putting the ball in that section. This always worries me about roulette. If he can do it, why can't other roulette dealers?



A dealer I worked with could do this. If I was on the wheel and he was dealing some other game, and he knew tokes were going to be low that day and a certain player was in....he'd tap me out and tell me to go to whichever table he was at. That player would always bet the same numbers (near each other on the wheel). And sure enough, a few hours later, the guy would be cashing out big, and dealer had a chunk of green set aside for tokes. Granted, he slowed down the wheel like a mother****** and made the ball spin exactly 3 times or 5 times. And was most likely illegal.

I saw that dealer in a casino once (I was playing BJ) and he was near the roulette wheel, just watching. After about 8 or 10 spins, he figured it wasn't worth watching (that dealer) anymore, so he goes to the next wheel. After about 5 spins, he sees what he likes (consistency), and watches another 5 spins. Next spin, ball goes around two or three times and puts down money on 4 different numbers straight up. And sure enough, he was off by 1 (not numerical off by 1, but off by 1 slot). Could have been sheer luck, but I doubt it.
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February 27th, 2015 at 1:39:50 AM permalink
a dealer that can hit any number in roulette, and he's still dealing or hasn't retired from a conferedate betting the numbers?
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February 27th, 2015 at 3:26:45 AM permalink
Quote: GeorgePane

I got a friend in a greek casino who said he was a dealer in roullette he told me he had so much experience from 20 years spinning the ball , that he could .....

Look jack, if he has anything going for him, his wife, his sister, his BIL, his best friends and his next door neighbor would all be sitting at that table and you would not be sitting there. Just as any poker dealer, blackjack dealer or Casino War dealer. So get real. Why would he spend 20 years standing on his feet taking xxxx from everybody, smoke, cameras and abrupt schedule changes if he could make enough money in one week to retire in style?

It don't matter what his claims are.... if they could make him money, he would be doing it and he wouldn't be talking about it much less to you.
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February 27th, 2015 at 5:24:47 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Look jack, if he has anything going for him, his wife, his sister, his BIL, his best friends and his next door neighbor would all be sitting at that table and you would not be sitting there. Just as any poker dealer, blackjack dealer or Casino War dealer. So get real. Why would he spend 20 years standing on his feet taking xxxx from everybody, smoke, cameras and abrupt schedule changes if he could make enough money in one week to retire in style?

It don't matter what his claims are.... if they could make him money, he would be doing it and he wouldn't be talking about it much less to you.

First off I don't think he can do it. But I don't like the argument that just because he's not cheating to win money for himself or friends, it's not possible. Perhaps he doesn't want to end up in jail.
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February 27th, 2015 at 5:29:36 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

First off I don't think he can do it. But I don't like the argument that just because he's not cheating to win money for himself or friends, it's not possible. Perhaps he doesn't want to end up in jail.


I tend to agree with you Alex, however, if one person could exploit this game, then it would stand to reason that others would be able to as well. I am sure that this isn't the first Croupier who has perhaps gotten bored on the job and attempted to hit red or black on command, even in his head. So, if you go by the assumption that his talent is not a unique talent, perhaps he has some great moral code and wouldn't exploit the game either out of fear or virtue, someone, somewhere, would have exploited the game
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February 27th, 2015 at 8:17:52 AM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

I tend to agree with you Alex, however, if one person could exploit this game, then it would stand to reason that others would be able to as well. I am sure that this isn't the first Croupier who has perhaps gotten bored on the job and attempted to hit red or black on command, even in his head. So, if you go by the assumption that his talent is not a unique talent, perhaps he has some great moral code and wouldn't exploit the game either out of fear or virtue, someone, somewhere, would have exploited the game

Red or black? That makes no sence at all. Thats why I'm certain its.a.farce
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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