Linked Carnival Poker Progressive at Caesar's Windsor
Quote: WOOProgressive Side Bet — Type 2
I have a report that the Firekeeper's casino in Michigan has a $1 progressive jackpot based on the flop and the player's two hole cards. I hear the jackpot seed is $10,000. I don't know the contribution rate. The win for a royal flush is 100% of the jackpot, and 10% for a straight flush. The following return table shows the probability and return for each hand. All pays are on a "for one" basis, meaning the player never gets his original bet back, even if he wins.
Michigan Progressive — $100,000 Jackpot
Event Pays
Royal flush 100% of jackpot
Straight flush 10% of jackpot
Four of a kind 300
Full house 50
Flush 40
Straight 30
Three of a kind 9
All other 0
Total
For any given jackpot amount, the return is 53.057% + 2.924% for every $10,000 in the jackpot meter. The breakeven point, where there would be zero house edge is at a mater of $160,530.53.
I have an unconfirmed report that the "Michigan Progressive" offers envy bonuses of $300 if another player has a straight flush, and $1,000 for a royal flush. If true, this would add 0.57% to the return for each additional player.
The paytables used in Windsor are on a TO basis, so you DO get your $1 bet back when you win. This is nice.
I can confirm the envy bonuses. All 6 games use the same paytable, same envy bonuses, and same progressive. It's at about $107,000 CDN as of today.
The lights on the table to acknowledge the dollar are the same used for Let it Ride. It's called "Multi-Link Progressive", but i can't find the manufacturer
I've never had a dealt royal in 5 cards on ANY game, so I'd be hard pressed to make the side bet, but it obviously happens so c'est la vie.
Quote: TiltpoulI've never had a dealt royal in 5 cards on ANY game, so I'd be hard pressed to make the side bet, but it obviously happens so c'est la vie.
In Detroit they offer a progressive version of Pai Gow Poker for $5, where you get 10% for 5 Aces or a natural royal or 100% for either of those hands with a pair. The progressives generally range from 150k to over 300k, although I've seen MGM top 400k one time. 10% happens quite frequently, relatively speaking, versus a 5-card straight flush or royal, so the attractiveness of this is a little less exciting, in my opinion. I'm not saying a wouldn't play it, but it would be nice fore SHFL to increase the full house or quads payouts. Casinos should be greedy, but not that greedy...
Quote: TheBigPaybakIn Detroit they offer a progressive version of Pai Gow Poker for $5, where you get 10% for 5 Aces or a natural royal or 100% for either of those hands with a pair. The progressives generally range from 150k to over 300k, although I've seen MGM top 400k one time. 10% happens quite frequently, relatively speaking, versus a 5-card straight flush or royal, so the attractiveness of this is a little less exciting, in my opinion. I'm not saying a wouldn't play it, but it would be nice fore SHFL to increase the full house or quads payouts. Casinos should be greedy, but not that greedy...
That new progressive on PGP is really bad. Unless you hit one of the two big hands, it's worth very little. A full house getting 4:1? WTF!?! I've played A LOT of Pai Gow Poker, and I've had ONE royal flush. I myself have NEVER had 5 Aces, and only been on the table twice when they did hit. I have probably had more than my fair share of Straight Flushes, but I'm also probably a bit behind of 4-of-a-kinds.
Lately, I can't even get a regular flush. I'd rather give that dollar as a tip before betting it on a progressive. Sad thing is, they have set the max payout on the main bets so low you almost have to play it to get paid anything big time.
Quote: IbeatyouracesThe JP at Motorcity on PG was recently hit. MGM's is still in the $300K+ range.
I think it's such a good side-bet- and it's even +EV when the meter is over around 100k, isn't it?
https://wizardofodds.com/games/pai-gow-poker/appendix/3/
It's clearly winnable as frequent casino-patrons see it fluctuate. Heck, even I got 5 Aces before!
$300k range is fantastic- might even get me back to MGM for that one...
Quote: IbeatyouracesMGM's is +EV but table min is usually $15 so not sure by how much. 10% isn't that common but not all that unusual.
Hell, on friday at Motorcity, there were 2 royal flushes in UTH in about 3 hours time.
I was playing UTH a few weeks back at GT and a guy had two straight flushes within an hour or so- I was at the table for the second one. Same guy- he was having a very good night!
For me, the 7 card-based progressives are just more entertaining. I'm all for high jackpots, and I'll engage in sucker bets, but you want to at least feel you have a chance.
In all my years playing, I was dealt a royal only once: one a nickel multi-strike game playing low-limit. I think I got a few hundred bucks out of it. I was never dealt a straight flush. At least the 5-card progressive-linked games should yield very high jackpots over time- although from what I understand- nothing ever came close to MGM 400k+ $5 Pai Gow progressive...
Quote: IbeatyouracesAs of 11:00am ET, PGP progressive at MGM Detroit was $392,517.
WOW! Back around the 400k level! While I don't like MGM, that's a reason to go back sometime!
Quote: IbeatyouracesAs of 11:00am ET, PGP progressive at MGM Detroit was $392,517.
And I'm sitting in the Detroit hangar waiting for a flight... what AM I doing??
Honestly, I don't care if the bet on that gets into +ev territory. There is no chance that I would play. It's too much of a waste of dollars to get paid out only on good hands, and even at that, it has to be monster hands.
