Super Bowl Squares -- Another Fun WoV Contest
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:08:18 AM
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Here is yet another fun an exciting WoV contest. With this one there is not thinking required, and the top 100 members are automatically entered.
Here is how it works. After the game the winner can be found in the tables below by looking up terminal digits of the score of each team. For example, if the final score were NYG 24, Pats 30, then you would look up Giants 4 and Pats 0, and the winner would be Jufo81. I had to break it into two tables because one would have been too wide for the screen. The top 100 members read like a book, with Nareed first, Paco second, ... , thecesspit 6th, ... , odiousgambit 11th, ... ,Aussie 100th. However, the row and column headers were randomized (with 10 playing cards).
The winner will get a free dinner with the Wizard, with mystery gifts, or some other equivalent mutually agreeable idea. If that doesn't interest the winner, a donation to a charity of the winner's choice is also an option.
Enjoy!
Here is how it works. After the game the winner can be found in the tables below by looking up terminal digits of the score of each team. For example, if the final score were NYG 24, Pats 30, then you would look up Giants 4 and Pats 0, and the winner would be Jufo81. I had to break it into two tables because one would have been too wide for the screen. The top 100 members read like a book, with Nareed first, Paco second, ... , thecesspit 6th, ... , odiousgambit 11th, ... ,Aussie 100th. However, the row and column headers were randomized (with 10 playing cards).
The winner will get a free dinner with the Wizard, with mystery gifts, or some other equivalent mutually agreeable idea. If that doesn't interest the winner, a donation to a charity of the winner's choice is also an option.
Enjoy!
| Giants | Pats 6 | Pats 5 | Pats 4 | Pats 7 | Pats 8 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | Nareed | pacomartin | EvenBob | DJTeddyBear | FleaStiff |
| 7 | odiousgambit | Doc | Paigowdan | Ayecarumba | buzzpaff |
| 9 | mrjjj | SOOPOO | cclub79 | Face | P90 |
| 1 | SanchoPanza | DorothyGale | HotBlonde | JimMorrison | zippyboy |
| 8 | FinsRule | ahiromu | WizardofEngland | goatcabin | dwheatley |
| 5 | gofaster87 | JohnnyQ | kp | TheNightfly | clarkacal |
| 0 | slyther | matilda | Toes14 | Switch | TIMSPEED |
| 4 | FarFromVegas | Alan | heather | MrCasinoGames | nyuhoosier |
| 3 | timberjim | Asswhoopermcdaddy | thlf | Dween | 7craps |
| 6 | ElectricDreams | scotty81 | progrocker | Scotty71 | 1BB |
| Giants | Pats 3 | Pats 2 | Pats 0 | Pats 9 | Pats 1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | thecesspit | AZDuffman | teddys | MathExtremist | boymimbo |
| 7 | weaselman | rdw4potus | Mosca | rxwine | Croupier |
| 9 | s2dbaker | ItsCalledSoccer | Wavy70 | Tiltpoul | Ibeatyouraces |
| 1 | RaleighCraps | MrV | rudeboyoi | Keyser | NicksGamingStuff |
| 8 | konceptum | miplet | ruascott | gambler | benbakdoff |
| 5 | FrGamble | guido111 | RonC | JIMMYFOCKER | CrystalMath |
| 0 | PapaChubby | DeMango | kenarman | vert1276 | 7outlineaway |
| 4 | Headlock | discflicker | Jufo81 | toastcmu | NowTheSerpent |
| 3 | OneAngryDwarf | 7winner | cardshark | reno | Calder |
| 6 | tuttigym | DonPedro | ChesterDog | YoDiceRoll11 | Aussie |
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:24:11 AM
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Thanks for the free entry! Maybe I need to search this site to see whether you ever posted applicable summaries of your NFL data. I'm wondering how often a team's score ends in 5, which I have for the Pats. I can see a 35 total with 5 TDs and 5 PATs, but I don't know how often a final 5 is obtained some other way. My Giant's number is 7, and my brain immediately zeroed in on a 7 total, though 3*(6+1)+2*3=27 looks like another plausible way to get there. Yep, a final score of Pats by 35-27 would work for me.
Do you have a summary table of frequencies of score final digits? Would you expect the pattern for the SuperBowl to be different from other games?
Do you have a summary table of frequencies of score final digits? Would you expect the pattern for the SuperBowl to be different from other games?
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:28:14 AM
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8, 6???? Ugh!! Why do I post so much (or not enough)
It did happen once though, in 1985.... Oh, and thanks for the free entry :)
It did happen once though, in 1985.... Oh, and thanks for the free entry :)
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:36:46 AM
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Quote: DocDo you have a summary table of frequencies of score final digits? Would you expect the pattern for the SuperBowl to be different from other games?
Yes! It is rather dated, but it appears about 1/3 of the way down in my "Ask the Wizard" questions about sports betting.
As an example, you have Giants 7 Pats 5. If we treat the Giants as the home team your probability of winning would be 0.0083. If we treat the Pats as the home team it would be 0.0064. So, split the difference and you're at 0.0074.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:43:19 AM
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Thanks!Quote: WizardThe top 100 members read like a book, with Nareed first, Paco second, ... , thecesspit 6th, ... , odiousgambit 11th, ... ,Aussie 100th.
Now,
I do know for a fact that member "7winner" passed away last March.
I saw his box at the Riverside National Cemetery. (My daughter's boy friend's friend of a friend's Dad)
Will that now make Aussie #99 for those that are living?
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:43:54 AM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:58:16 AM
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Well, thanks for making me watch and have an interest in the game. I really didn't want to see either team in the bowl. But if I had to choose, I'd go with the Patriots as Brady's family is helping out Sid the Kid with his long term health issues.
I like the Patriots 31, Giants 22: Pats with 4 TDs and a FG, Giants with 3 FG, 2TDs, but a failed 2 point conversion late in the game. And oh yeah, a failed on-side kick.
If I win, I'll have to come to Vegas to collect.
I like the Patriots 31, Giants 22: Pats with 4 TDs and a FG, Giants with 3 FG, 2TDs, but a failed 2 point conversion late in the game. And oh yeah, a failed on-side kick.
If I win, I'll have to come to Vegas to collect.
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February 2nd, 2012 at 10:02:21 AM
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I'll take a free bet any day of the week.
What about the quarters and half?
Honerable mention at least?
What about the quarters and half?
Honerable mention at least?
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February 2nd, 2012 at 10:07:13 AM
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Thanks Wizard. With 3 and 4 I think my odds are much better than 1 in 100! I will be in Las Vegas for the game, so do you want to buy dinner on the strip or elsewhere?
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:17:00 AM
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Yep, as my earlier musings suspected, the final 7 is as good as it gets, but a final 5 is almost the worst possible. In sum, my +EV is slightly below 2/3 the average. Still, the entry price is right!Quote: Wizard... you have Giants 7 Pats 5. If we treat the Giants as the home team your probability of winning would be 0.0083. If we treat the Pats as the home team it would be 0.0064. So, split the difference and you're at 0.0074.
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:25:23 AM
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I'm surprised I am 6th on the list... I only have 2,500 posts... 5th has a lot more than that.
But I'll take a free bet, thanks Mr Wizard.
But I'll take a free bet, thanks Mr Wizard.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:34:49 AM
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Awesome! Love the freeroll! And at 7-7, I would heartily endorse quarter and halftime action! Thanks Wizard!
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February 2nd, 2012 at 10:41:21 AM
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Quote: FinsRule8, 6???? Ugh!! Why do I post so much (or not enough)
It did happen once though, in 1985.... Oh, and thanks for the free entry :)
But they're only terminal digits. 28 and 38 are common enough scores. With these offenses, 46 or 56 might be possible.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:44:03 AM
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Using the data from https://wizardofodds.com/ask-the-wizard/sports/ here is the same chart with winning %'s assuming I have no typos or copy and paste errors.
| Giants | Pats 6 | Pats 5 | Pats 4 | Pats 7 | Pats 8 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | Nareed 0.265 | pacomartin 0.185 | EvenBob 0.505 | DJTeddyBear 0.605 | FleaStiff 0.185 |
| 7 | odiousgambit 1.08 | Doc 0.735 | Paigowdan 3.635 | Ayecarumba 2.22 | buzzpaff 0.945 |
| 9 | mrjjj 0.6 | SOOPOO 0.17 | cclub79 0.665 | Face 0.71 | P90 0.185 |
| 1 | SanchoPanza 0.735 | DorothyGale 0.29 | HotBlonde 2.095 | JimMorrison 2.06 | zippyboy 1.12 |
| 8 | FinsRule 0.395 | ahiromu 0.4 | WizardofEngland 0.89 | goatcabin 0.945 | dwheatley 0.27 |
| 5 | gofaster87 0.175 | JohnnyQ 0.16 | kp 0.425 | TheNightfly 0.735 | clarkacal 0.4 |
| 0 | slyther 1.685 | matilda 0.615 | Toes14 2.305 | Switch 4.025 | TIMSPEED 0.95 |
| 4 | FarFromVegas 0.93 | Alan 0.425 | heather 1.92 | MrCasinoGames 3.635 | nyuhoosier 0.89 |
| 3 | timberjim 1.57 | Asswhoopermcdaddy 0.54 | thlf 1.595 | Dween 2.365 | 7craps 0.595 |
| 6 | ElectricDreams 0.5 | scotty81 0.175 | progrocker 0.93 | Scotty71 1.08 | 1BB 0.395 |
| Giants | Pats 3 | Pats 2 | Pats 0 | Pats 9 | Pats 1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | thecesspit 0.47 | AZDuffman 0.02 | teddys 0.52 | MathExtremist 0.255 | boymimbo 0.285 |
| 7 | weaselman 2.365 | rdw4potus 0.605 | Mosca 4.025 | rxwine 0.71 | Croupier 2.06 |
| 9 | s2dbaker 0.65 | ItsCalledSoccer 0.255 | Wavy70 0.71 | Tiltpoul 0.12 | Ibeatyouraces 0.525 |
| 1 | RaleighCraps 0.975 | MrV 0.285 | rudeboyoi 1.565 | Keyser 0.525 | NicksGamingStuff 0.71 |
| 8 | konceptum 0.595 | miplet 0.185 | ruascott 0.95 | gambler 0.185 | benbakdoff 1.12 |
| 5 | FrGamble 0.54 | guido111 0.185 | RonC 0.615 | JIMMYFOCKER 0.17 | CrystalMath 0.29 |
| 0 | PapaChubby 3.14 | DeMango 0.52 | kenarman 2.23 | vert1276 0.71 | 7outlineaway 1.565 |
| 4 | Headlock 1.595 | discflicker 0.505 | Jufo81 2.305 | toastcmu 0.665 | NowTheSerpent 2.095 |
| 3 | OneAngryDwarf 1.17 | 7winner 0.47 | cardshark 3.14 | reno 0.65 | Calder 0.975 |
| 6 | tuttigym 1.57 | DonPedro 0.265 | ChesterDog 1.685 | YoDiceRoll11 0.6 | Aussie 0.735 |
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February 2nd, 2012 at 10:46:26 AM
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Damn, time to start padding my post count for next year's SB.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
February 2nd, 2012 at 10:55:25 AM
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You could claim a square. A lot of those members haven't shown up in ages; to wit, ItsCalledSoccer, JIMMYFOCKER, nyuhoosier, goatcabin.Quote: AcesAndEightsDamn, time to start padding my post count for next year's SB.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:15:24 AM
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What an awesome surprise. A free entry and great numbers besides. Thank you, Wizard!
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:17:14 AM
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Pats 35 Giants 9
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:19:55 AM
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Quote: teddysYou could claim a square. A lot of those members haven't shown up in ages; to wit, ItsCalledSoccer, JIMMYFOCKER, nyuhoosier, goatcabin.
Sounds like a bookkeeping headache for the Wiz, but I'd be happy to claim a square if he were so inclined to weed out folks who haven't been around in a while.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
February 2nd, 2012 at 11:24:45 AM
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With 0, 4, 3 and 6 at the bottom of the matrix, it's a great day to be a really mediocre poster!
February 2nd, 2012 at 2:10:06 PM
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Wiz,
Thanks for putting me on there...even got the team right as I'm a pats fan...8:0 is a good square!
Thanks for putting me on there...even got the team right as I'm a pats fan...8:0 is a good square!
Gambling calls to me...like this ~> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nap37mNSmQ
February 2nd, 2012 at 3:25:02 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOPats 35 Giants 9
You're close enough I could drive uptown and throw snowballs at you =p
Thanks for the square, Wiz. Very cool of you =)
Edit:
Quote: boymimboBrady's family is helping out Sid the Kid with his long term health issues.
Sid...Crosby? Surely, you jest...
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
February 2nd, 2012 at 4:10:04 PM
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5 - 5.
Thanks, I guess ?
Actually, this is fun and I appreciate the
entry.
I will lobby for a prize if at any time the
scores end in 5 and 5 !
Thanks, I guess ?
Actually, this is fun and I appreciate the
entry.
I will lobby for a prize if at any time the
scores end in 5 and 5 !
There's emptiness behind their eyes
There's dust in all their hearts
They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:26:59 PM
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Thanks so much Wizard. I was just going to watch for the commercials now I can enjoy the game a little bit. The pain of that Baltimore loss is still lingering.
February 2nd, 2012 at 5:41:45 PM
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Thaks for doing this, Wiz. Always nice to come home from work and find yourself entered in something with no effort on my own part :-)
GO G-MEN, sack Brady!
GO G-MEN, sack Brady!
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:46:33 PM
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Whooooohoooo. I made it! !!! And I've only been here a month. Freaking sweet!
And I can finally say: I am the 99
And I can finally say: I am the 99
February 3rd, 2012 at 2:39:44 AM
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Quote: FrGambleThanks so much Wizard. I was just going to watch for the commercials now I can enjoy the game a little bit. The pain of that Baltimore loss is still lingering.
You're welcome, all. I still feel your pain on that missed field goal.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 3rd, 2012 at 1:48:51 PM
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Cool! Thx Wizard
February 3rd, 2012 at 2:19:46 PM
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I'm disappointed that I missed out. It's my own fault; I read here often but I don't post enough. Hope this post helps for future such contests.
February 3rd, 2012 at 2:29:12 PM
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Thks. Wiz I like my numbers 0/0. If I happen to win might be enough to get me motivated to plan another trip to Vegas to collect my dinner.
Be careful when you follow the masses, the M is sometimes silent.
February 3rd, 2012 at 3:52:45 PM
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Not that anyone asked, but I think MrCasinoGames has the best shot with 7-4. I could see the game going 27-24 Pats. Hopefully it won't thought, as I bet against a 3-point margin of victory.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 3rd, 2012 at 4:51:51 PM
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Quote: WizardNot that anyone asked, but I think MrCasinoGames has the best shot with 7-4. I could see the game going 27-24 Pats. Hopefully it won't thought, as I bet against a 3-point margin of victory.
Wizard, I can't remember your total score formula. Does it predict 27-24 pats or 30-27 pats? 28-24? I dunno, I'm sure it's right around there.
February 3rd, 2012 at 5:09:10 PM
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I hope mrjjj wins, only because I want to hear a story about what a dinner with Ken would be like :)
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
February 3rd, 2012 at 7:52:40 PM
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Quote: s2dbakerI hope mrjjj wins, only because I want to hear a story about what a dinner with Ken would be like :)
The last supper?
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
February 3rd, 2012 at 9:22:42 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleWizard, I can't remember your total score formula. Does it predict 27-24 pats or 30-27 pats? 28-24? I dunno, I'm sure it's right around there.
You have to balance the following:
1. Individual scores should add up to the total, in this case 55.
2. Difference should be the spread, in this case Pats by 3.
3. Individual scores should reflect 1 or 2 field goals and the rest touchdowns.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 4th, 2012 at 10:30:04 AM
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SOOPOO just told me about this thread. Super fun! But I have a question. Even though I only have a 1/100 chance to win (or, as according to miplet's chart, a 1/48 chance to win) if I do win is it ok that I partake in the reward dinner later in the year in October? Or is there an expiration date on the prize?
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February 4th, 2012 at 10:27:15 PM
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Quote: HotBlondeSOOPOO just told me about this thread. Super fun! But I have a question. Even though I only have a 1/100 chance to win (or, as according to miplet's chart, a 1/48 chance to win) if I do win is it ok that I partake in the reward dinner later in the year in October? Or is there an expiration date on the prize?
The reward dinner never expires. I'm very flexible about substitutions as well.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 5th, 2012 at 1:42:57 AM
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Quote: WizardThe reward dinner never expires. I'm very flexible about substitutions as well.
Can we get jet skies in Laughlin instead?
I have a bewitched egg that I use to play VP with and I have net over 900k with it.
February 5th, 2012 at 3:02:35 PM
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(Bumping for kickoff...)
February 5th, 2012 at 3:20:02 PM
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I got 1:35 for KC's national anthem. Is that under?
February 5th, 2012 at 3:42:19 PM
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WOW! AZDuffman's 2-2 not so bad at least at the start!
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
February 5th, 2012 at 4:02:45 PM
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
February 5th, 2012 at 4:45:13 PM
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Is the game still on? I'm attempting to watch it live on nbcsports.com. I only want to watch it for the half-time, the commercials and to see the final score to see if I won. The nbc player is taking a long time to load.
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February 5th, 2012 at 4:46:21 PM
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Quote: HotBlondeIs the game still on? I'm attempting to watch it live on nbcsports.com. I only want to watch it for the half-time, the commercials and to see the final score to see if I won. The nbc player is taking a long time to load.
It's a few minutes to half time yet.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
February 5th, 2012 at 4:48:04 PM
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Awesom I just logged on. Perfect timing. I wanna see Madonna. I don't watch football, but is it just me or are the scores pretty low?Quote: NareedIt's a few minutes to half time yet.
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February 5th, 2012 at 5:07:52 PM
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Right now if neither team scores again for the rest of the game Wavy70 will win this contest.
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February 5th, 2012 at 5:15:30 PM
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Quote: HotBlondeAwesom I just logged on. Perfect timing. I wanna see Madonna.
I rather like Madonna. But, "Vogue"? Really? That song wasn't popular even when it was popular ;)
Quote:I don't watch football, but is it just me or are the scores pretty low?
Very low. And yet two points higher than they should be...
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
February 5th, 2012 at 5:28:15 PM
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I am very upset, like very. I logged on just before the half time show and they DIDN'T EVEN SHOW IT ONLINE. I was sitting here like an idiot waiting and waiting and waiting and now it's the beginning of the 3rd quarter. WTF???
Super pissed!
Super pissed!
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February 5th, 2012 at 5:31:33 PM
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The half time show sucked, only because Madonna was singing ;).
So, if the Pats score 3 touchdowns and the Giants score a TD and 2 FGs, or just one FG, I'm a winner! Woot!
So, if the Pats score 3 touchdowns and the Giants score a TD and 2 FGs, or just one FG, I'm a winner! Woot!
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February 5th, 2012 at 5:32:39 PM
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Quote: NareedI rather like Madonna. But, "Vogue"? Really? That song wasn't popular even when it was popular ;) .
It's one of my least favorite from her, but you are incorrect about its success:
After its release, "Vogue" reached number one in over 30 countries worldwide, becoming Madonna's biggest hit at that time.[7][8] It was also the best-selling single of 1990,[9] with sales of over six million copies worldwide.[10] In the U.S., massive airplay and sales demand in response to the popular music video in April 1990 made way for "Vogue"'s number 39 debut in the week of April 14. The song shot to number one on the Billboard Hot 100 in its sixth week on the chart, displacing Sinéad O'Connor's four-week run in the top spot with "Nothing Compares 2 U". The song also reached number one on the Hot Dance Club Play chart, remaining there for two weeks. On June 28, 1990, "Vogue" was certified double platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for sales of two million copies of the physical single across United States.[11] To date, it remains Madonna's best-selling physical single in the country
