Paris Olympics
The pool is a standard Olympic (swimming) pool that is 7 feet deep throughout. While the sport continues to evolve, there will be years of competition that just do not rise to continuous WR's. Physiology, size, strength, training techniques, and science will continue their slow evolution until the upper limits of performance are eventually reached. The shorter the race; the sooner those limits of human endeavor will be reached ultimately. Those points are unknown.
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Quote: terapinedPan Zhanle of China
Wow
100m Men's freestyle
Destroyed the field winning by a full second
Lowers his WR by .40 seconds
Incredible performance
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Has his drug test come back yet? I believe I read that China recently had 23 swimmers test positive for doping.
Quote: DRichQuote: terapinedPan Zhanle of China
Wow
100m Men's freestyle
Destroyed the field winning by a full second
Lowers his WR by .40 seconds
Incredible performance
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Has his drug test come back yet? I believe I read that China recently had 23 swimmers test positive for doping.
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Such an incredibly dominating performance, no doubt some are wondering. He won by a whole second in such a short race. I looked it up. Hasn't happened in the Olympics since 1928 that a mens 100m freestyle was won by a whole second. It's usually tiny fractions of a second that win a gold. He also broke his world record by .40 second which is also incredible. Last 19 world records in this event were by smaller margins then .40 second.
On the flip side
He's only 19 years old
Wasn't implicated in any testing scandal
Those were older swimmers that raced in Tokyo that tested positive
Quote: rxwineI watched Guatemala win its first gold medal. It was in women's trap shooting. Only took 120 years or something like that.
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On the flip side
The USA sucks at shooting
Amazing, the land of guns can't shoot straight
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: terapinedQuote: SOOPOOWatched women’s bicycle time trial race. It was rainy and slick. USA gold medal favorite goes down. Gets up quickly. Starts pedaling WITH A MAN PUSHING THE BACK OF THE BIKE! No mention of it by the announcers. Pretty sure he was a USA coach of some sort. She ends up with the bronze.
I would like to think such a race would have a strict policy against outside assistance.
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All bikers get outside assistance in the tour de France
Watch whenever somebody in a car hands something to a biker
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I could be wrong, but I don’t think they do that during a time trial. I can (sort of) understand handing a water bottle to a rider. I think it’s way different than pushing the rider. I’d also bet there is no pushing in the bike part of triathlons.
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I didn’t watch it live but I found the video. The guy pushing Chloe Dygert after her crash would have been the USA team mechanic. Even in a time trial it’s typical, after a crash, for the mechanic to help the rider with a push after he attends to the bike and the cyclist remounts. In this case the bike didn’t need any attention from the mechanic. He jumped out of the team car and came running as soon as she went down in case he was needed. No advantage in crashing in order to get a push.
Quote: terapinedQuote: DRichQuote: terapinedPan Zhanle of China
Wow
100m Men's freestyle
Destroyed the field winning by a full second
Lowers his WR by .40 seconds
Incredible performance
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Has his drug test come back yet? I believe I read that China recently had 23 swimmers test positive for doping.
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Such an incredibly dominating performance, no doubt some are wondering. He won by a whole second in such a short race. I looked it up. Hasn't happened in the Olympics since 1928 that a mens 100m freestyle was won by a whole second. It's usually tiny fractions of a second that win a gold. He also broke his world record by .40 second which is also incredible. Last 19 world records in this event were by smaller margins then .40 second.
On the flip side
He's only 19 years old
Wasn't implicated in any testing scandal
Those were older swimmers that raced in Tokyo that tested positive
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story here on why it’s unusual.
https://apple.news/Ac8d8dHY3Tj6_JgSTpF6eNw
Must have a butt-hole propellor.
With respect to Biles' floor routine, she looks like she gets twice as much air on her tumbling passes than anyone else. The chick must have springs in her legs. You could tell, just after the first tumbling pass, that there is Simone Biles...and everyone else. The difference was that stark.
Quote: GenoDRPhJust watched the all around gymnastics finals. Biles with the Gold and Suni Lee with the Bronze. Both coming back from illness to make the podium.
With respect to Biles' floor routine, she looks like she gets twice as much air on her tumbling passes than anyone else. The chick must have springs in her legs. You could tell, just after the first tumbling pass, that there is Simone Biles...and everyone else. The difference was that stark.
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She generates so much linear speed that when she converts it to vertical takeoff, it is extraordinary. The term is called "block." That is when she punches the floor at takeoff. The timing is highly critical. All the most difficult tumbling passes require the "blocking" skill to achieve maximum elevation. There is more, but it is too much in the weeds.
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Quote: tuttigymQuote: GenoDRPhJust watched the all around gymnastics finals. Biles with the Gold and Suni Lee with the Bronze. Both coming back from illness to make the podium.
With respect to Biles' floor routine, she looks like she gets twice as much air on her tumbling passes than anyone else. The chick must have springs in her legs. You could tell, just after the first tumbling pass, that there is Simone Biles...and everyone else. The difference was that stark.
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She generates so much linear speed that when she converts it to vertical takeoff, it is extraordinary. The term is called "block." That is when she punches the floor at takeoff. The timing is highly critical. All the most difficult tumbling passes require the "blocking" skill to achieve maximum elevation. There is more, but it is too much in the weeds.
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I chalk it up to her smaller stature (less mass to propel), shorter stride length therefore less runway needed to get to full speed and her overall pocket rocket musculature, especially in her truck and legs.
I've never been on a gymnastics floor, but I wonder how it compares to the sprung floors in judo competition...
To say these Olympics are bittersweet would be an understatement.
Today’s uneven bar routine was probably the last one she will ever do in competition. I can only assume she will be retiring after this week.
What an incredible race
Netherlands takes gold
Incredible strong kick at the end just dominating passing 3 runners
She's a WOMAN
For some weird reason, she has gotten a lot of hate regarding suspicions she is transgender
WTF
She's a female boxer.
FEMALE
Just as female as Ilona Maher who goes beast mode in Rugby sevens
Quote: terapinedAlgerian Woman boxer Imane Khelif clinches Olympic medal
She's a WOMAN
For some weird reason, she has gotten a lot of hate regarding suspicions she is transgender
WTF
She's a female boxer.
FEMALE
Just as female as Ilona Maher who goes beast mode in Rugby sevens
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So they are not saying "she" is genetic a woman. They refer to "her" passport, lived as a woman etc.
Genetically she is fucked up with male chromosomes and a vagina. This is why she looks like a man and has a man's body. "He" is the victim of a rare genetic screw up
Quote: IntelligentMangQuote: terapinedAlgerian Woman boxer Imane Khelif clinches Olympic medal
She's a WOMAN
For some weird reason, she has gotten a lot of hate regarding suspicions she is transgender
WTF
She's a female boxer.
FEMALE
Just as female as Ilona Maher who goes beast mode in Rugby sevens
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So they are not saying "she" is genetic a woman. They refer to "her" passport, lived as a woman etc.
Genetically she is fucked up with male chromosomes and a vagina. This is why she looks like a man and has a man's body. "He" is the victim of a rare genetic screw up
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Can you cite proof of test results
Are you going by hearsay which is meaningless BS
Or
Are you referring to actual test results?????????
She's a Woman
Born a Woman
Is a Woman
I believe Ilana Maher is a woman
Woman can go beast mode
Quote: terapinedQuote: IntelligentMangQuote: terapinedAlgerian Woman boxer Imane Khelif clinches Olympic medal
She's a WOMAN
For some weird reason, she has gotten a lot of hate regarding suspicions she is transgender
WTF
She's a female boxer.
FEMALE
Just as female as Ilona Maher who goes beast mode in Rugby sevens
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So they are not saying "she" is genetic a woman. They refer to "her" passport, lived as a woman etc.
Genetically she is fucked up with male chromosomes and a vagina. This is why she looks like a man and has a man's body. "He" is the victim of a rare genetic screw up
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Can you cite proof of test results
Are you going by hearsay which is meaningless BS
Or
Are you referring to actual test results?????????
She's a Woman
Born a Woman
Is a Woman
I believe Ilana Maher is a woman
Woman can go beast mode
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The Head of the IBA who disqualified both said they had the XY chromosomes not XX. They notified the IOC in 2023.
The athlete has never denied or provided anything suggesting it wasn't true. Just "it's a conspiracy"
Never sued to get her title or medal back that was striped from him.
Quote: IntelligentMangQuote: terapinedQuote: IntelligentMangQuote: terapinedAlgerian Woman boxer Imane Khelif clinches Olympic medal
She's a WOMAN
For some weird reason, she has gotten a lot of hate regarding suspicions she is transgender
WTF
She's a female boxer.
FEMALE
Just as female as Ilona Maher who goes beast mode in Rugby sevens
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So they are not saying "she" is genetic a woman. They refer to "her" passport, lived as a woman etc.
Genetically she is fucked up with male chromosomes and a vagina. This is why she looks like a man and has a man's body. "He" is the victim of a rare genetic screw up
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Can you cite proof of test results
Are you going by hearsay which is meaningless BS
Or
Are you referring to actual test results?????????
She's a Woman
Born a Woman
Is a Woman
I believe Ilana Maher is a woman
Woman can go beast mode
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The Head of the IBA who disqualified both said they had the XY chromosomes not XX. They notified the IOC in 2023.
The athlete has never denied or provided anything suggesting it wasn't true. Just "it's a conspiracy"
Never sued to get her title or medal back that was striped from him.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/paris-2024-summer-olympics/olympics-boxing-imane-khalif-xy-chromosome-italian-boxer-quit/5662035/
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You believe Umar Kremlev of Russia
ROTFL
Russia ain't in the Olympics
Do you know why??????????????????
They cheat and lie about everything
How about the test results
Why aren't the test results released.
I want to see test results. I don't believe Jack that comes out of Russia regarding sports
You believe Russia. Lol. The entire world doesn't and that's why they are not in the Olympics
It's really shocking people will believe a Russian smear with no evidence except hearsay. If Russia says it, you believe. Lol
Logic dictates not believing Russian hearsay and ask to see the actual test results before making accusations
I think if you have an XY chromosome set you should not be welcome in female only events or teams.
Let's assume she is XY, but with a disorder of sexual development. Could an accommodation be made, allowing her to compete if she takes medication to lower testosterone levels below a certain threshold for certain period of time, like track and field does?
I mean, she isn't fully male, and isn't fully female. Surely we can find a place for her in international sporting competition, with certain treatments?
Quote: GenoDRPhHas her genotype or karyotype been publicly disclosed?
Let's assume she is XY, but with a disorder of sexual development. Could an accommodation be made, allowing her to compete if she takes medication to lower testosterone levels below a certain threshold for certain period of time, like track and field does?
I mean, she isn't fully male, and isn't fully female. Surely we can find a place for her in international sporting competition, with certain treatments?
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Genetically he is male. That impacts muscle strength, bone density etc. Not much different than getting the twig and berries cut off.
After puberty all those differences kick in.
Quote: IntelligentMangQuote: GenoDRPhHas her genotype or karyotype been publicly disclosed?
Let's assume she is XY, but with a disorder of sexual development. Could an accommodation be made, allowing her to compete if she takes medication to lower testosterone levels below a certain threshold for certain period of time, like track and field does?
I mean, she isn't fully male, and isn't fully female. Surely we can find a place for her in international sporting competition, with certain treatments?
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Genetically he is male. That impacts muscle strength, bone density etc. Not much different than getting the twig and berries cut off.
After puberty all those differences kick in.
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I strongly suggest you read up on DSD.
Quote: terapined4X400 mixed track and field
What an incredible race
Netherlands takes gold
Incredible strong kick at the end just dominating passing 3 runners
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Quote: rawtuffQuote: terapined4X400 mixed track and field
What an incredible race
Netherlands takes gold
Incredible strong kick at the end just dominating passing 3 runners
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At least she didn't trip, like last time...
Hell of a way to foul out...
youtube.com/watch?v=_DmZIO7s3AMhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/_DmZIO7s3AM
Quote: GenoDRPhhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/_DmZIO7s3AM
Hell of a way to foul out...
youtube.com/watch?v=_DmZIO7s3AMhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/_DmZIO7s3AM
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?????
Knocked the bar off with the shins and knees 1st
Quote: rawtuffQuote: terapined4X400 mixed track and field
What an incredible race
Netherlands takes gold
Incredible strong kick at the end just dominating passing 3 runners
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3 day suspension from the forum for profanity. Please read the forum rules and be familiar with them.
Talk about a close race
Quote: IntelligentMangQuote: GenoDRPhHas her genotype or karyotype been publicly disclosed?
Let's assume she is XY, but with a disorder of sexual development. Could an accommodation be made, allowing her to compete if she takes medication to lower testosterone levels below a certain threshold for certain period of time, like track and field does?
I mean, she isn't fully male, and isn't fully female. Surely we can find a place for her in international sporting competition, with certain treatments?
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Genetically he is male. That impacts muscle strength, bone density etc. Not much different than getting the twig and berries cut off.
After puberty all those differences kick in.
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You have seen test results??????????????
Russian hearsay don't mean jack
How can you determine she is a male without test results
Are you using the vision test
A lot of those women Rugby players are bigger then that boxer.
You put that female boxer on a field with women Rugby players, she's probably the least masculine looking player
Have you seen Ilona Maher go beast mode
All woman and all beast
Way way way more muscular then that female boxer
He hasn't missed a jump
Seems he cleared the gold medal height by a foot
Not even close to the bar
The gold medal winner has the right to go again
Went for Olympic record after already winning gold
Clears height easily
Incredible
He is now going for the world record
Added edit
He missed the world record
His only miss
Has the right to 2 more tries if he wants to
Added edit
He missed again. So close. Has huge height to clear, just not perfect form
Looks like he's gonna try again
Very exciting
Added edit
He did it
World record
Incredible
€126k Olympic bike
https://www.bikeradar.com/news/2024-olympic-track-bike-prices
Quote: terapinedQuote: IntelligentMangQuote: GenoDRPhHas her genotype or karyotype been publicly disclosed?
Let's assume she is XY, but with a disorder of sexual development. Could an accommodation be made, allowing her to compete if she takes medication to lower testosterone levels below a certain threshold for certain period of time, like track and field does?
I mean, she isn't fully male, and isn't fully female. Surely we can find a place for her in international sporting competition, with certain treatments?
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Genetically he is male. That impacts muscle strength, bone density etc. Not much different than getting the twig and berries cut off.
After puberty all those differences kick in.
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You have seen test results??????????????
Russian hearsay don't mean jack
How can you determine she is a male without test results
Are you using the vision test
A lot of those women Rugby players are bigger then that boxer.
You put that female boxer on a field with women Rugby players, she's probably the least masculine looking player
Have you seen Ilona Maher go beast mode
All woman and all beast
Way way way more muscular then that female boxer
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Have you seen the test results? Of course not. Since she doesn’t have to show them per IOC rules, you will NEVER see them. It doesn’t take much to connect the dots. Born with external female parts. Raised as a girl. If it wasn’t for her choice to be involved in a sport at the highest level she’d just be a very masculine looking woman. No biggie; there are plenty of them around. If she is XY, which given all we know I’d say is certainly over 90% certain, I think she should not be able to compete against XX women. Just like I don’t think men who transition to female should be able to compete against XX women.
You keep skirting the subject saying ‘we don’t know’. Well let’s say they test and she is XY. Where do you stand then?
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: terapinedQuote: IntelligentMangQuote: GenoDRPhHas her genotype or karyotype been publicly disclosed?
Let's assume she is XY, but with a disorder of sexual development. Could an accommodation be made, allowing her to compete if she takes medication to lower testosterone levels below a certain threshold for certain period of time, like track and field does?
I mean, she isn't fully male, and isn't fully female. Surely we can find a place for her in international sporting competition, with certain treatments?
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Genetically he is male. That impacts muscle strength, bone density etc. Not much different than getting the twig and berries cut off.
After puberty all those differences kick in.
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You have seen test results??????????????
Russian hearsay don't mean jack
How can you determine she is a male without test results
Are you using the vision test
A lot of those women Rugby players are bigger then that boxer.
You put that female boxer on a field with women Rugby players, she's probably the least masculine looking player
Have you seen Ilona Maher go beast mode
All woman and all beast
Way way way more muscular then that female boxer
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Have you seen the test results? Of course not. Since she doesn’t have to show them per IOC rules, you will NEVER see them.
Why do you say never
Umar Kremlev, the head of the international boxing association has the test results
Right now all we have is hearsay
Umar Kremlev could release the test results and we can see for ourselves.
The decision to release the actual test results is Umar Kremlev's decision
The boxer has absolutely no power in determining if the test results will be released
Until I see actual test results, I will not bully her with speculation
Without the Russian hearsay, nobody would be talking about her. Just another olympic athlete gifted with extreme physical abilities.
Quote: terapinedMen's 100m final
Talk about a close race
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Looks like the 64 men final. (I was going to joke 100, but on this forum, I’d probably get shade for not counting)
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: terapinedQuote: IntelligentMangQuote: GenoDRPhHas her genotype or karyotype been publicly disclosed?
Let's assume she is XY, but with a disorder of sexual development. Could an accommodation be made, allowing her to compete if she takes medication to lower testosterone levels below a certain threshold for certain period of time, like track and field does?
I mean, she isn't fully male, and isn't fully female. Surely we can find a place for her in international sporting competition, with certain treatments?
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Genetically he is male. That impacts muscle strength, bone density etc. Not much different than getting the twig and berries cut off.
After puberty all those differences kick in.
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You have seen test results??????????????
Russian hearsay don't mean jack
How can you determine she is a male without test results
Are you using the vision test
A lot of those women Rugby players are bigger then that boxer.
You put that female boxer on a field with women Rugby players, she's probably the least masculine looking player
Have you seen Ilona Maher go beast mode
All woman and all beast
Way way way more muscular then that female boxer
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Have you seen the test results? Of course not. Since she doesn’t have to show them per IOC rules, you will NEVER see them. It doesn’t take much to connect the dots. Born with external female parts. Raised as a girl. If it wasn’t for her choice to be involved in a sport at the highest level she’d just be a very masculine looking woman. No biggie; there are plenty of them around. If she is XY, which given all we know I’d say is certainly over 90% certain, I think she should not be able to compete against XX women. Just like I don’t think men who transition to female should be able to compete against XX women.
You keep skirting the subject saying ‘we don’t know’. Well let’s say they test and she is XY. Where do you stand then?
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I am disappointed at the seeming lack of research on this issue. The IOC has long since moved away from genetic tests alone to determne gender or suitability for eligibility for participation in female events. That is yesterday's, previous generation science. Sports federations and the IOC use hormone testing.
Quote: terapinedMens Pole vault gold medal winner Sweden
He hasn't missed a jump
Seems he cleared the gold medal height by a foot
Not even close to the bar
The gold medal winner has the right to go again
Went for Olympic record after already winning gold
Clears height easily
Incredible
He is now going for the world record
Added edit
He missed the world record
His only miss
Has the right to 2 more tries if he wants to
Added edit
He missed again. So close. Has huge height to clear, just not perfect form
Looks like he's gonna try again
Very exciting
Added edit
He did it
World record
Incredible
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In the early 60's, I believe the world PV record was 15' plus.
At a NCAA sanctioned track meet a participant soared over the bar at 18'2". The meet officials huddled quickly and disqualified participant and disallowed the new WR.
Why? (Any guesses? Wizard?)
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: terapinedMens Pole vault gold medal winner Sweden
He hasn't missed a jump
Seems he cleared the gold medal height by a foot
Not even close to the bar
The gold medal winner has the right to go again
Went for Olympic record after already winning gold
Clears height easily
Incredible
He is now going for the world record
Added edit
He missed the world record
His only miss
Has the right to 2 more tries if he wants to
Added edit
He missed again. So close. Has huge height to clear, just not perfect form
Looks like he's gonna try again
Very exciting
Added edit
He did it
World record
Incredible
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In the early 60's, I believe the world PV record was 15' plus.
At a NCAA sanctioned track meet a participant soared over the bar at 18'2". The meet officials huddled quickly and disqualified participant and disallowed the new WR.
Why? (Any guesses? Wizard?)
tuttigym
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I'm interested in looking into this
Can you give anymore information on this incident
I can't find it
I'm guessing a rule was broken
Quote: terapinedQuote: tuttigymQuote: terapinedMens Pole vault gold medal winner Sweden
He hasn't missed a jump
Seems he cleared the gold medal height by a foot
Not even close to the bar
The gold medal winner has the right to go again
Went for Olympic record after already winning gold
Clears height easily
Incredible
He is now going for the world record
Added edit
He missed the world record
His only miss
Has the right to 2 more tries if he wants to
Added edit
He missed again. So close. Has huge height to clear, just not perfect form
Looks like he's gonna try again
Very exciting
Added edit
He did it
World record
Incredible
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In the early 60's, I believe the world PV record was 15' plus.
At a NCAA sanctioned track meet a participant soared over the bar at 18'2". The meet officials huddled quickly and disqualified participant and disallowed the new WR.
Why? (Any guesses? Wizard?)
tuttigym
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I'm interested in looking into this
Can you give anymore information on this incident
I can't find it
I'm guessing a rule was broken
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Give it a little time. Sort of an "easy math puzzle." Wizard?
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: terapinedQuote: tuttigymQuote: terapinedMens Pole vault gold medal winner Sweden
He hasn't missed a jump
Seems he cleared the gold medal height by a foot
Not even close to the bar
The gold medal winner has the right to go again
Went for Olympic record after already winning gold
Clears height easily
Incredible
He is now going for the world record
Added edit
He missed the world record
His only miss
Has the right to 2 more tries if he wants to
Added edit
He missed again. So close. Has huge height to clear, just not perfect form
Looks like he's gonna try again
Very exciting
Added edit
He did it
World record
Incredible
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In the early 60's, I believe the world PV record was 15' plus.
At a NCAA sanctioned track meet a participant soared over the bar at 18'2". The meet officials huddled quickly and disqualified participant and disallowed the new WR.
Why? (Any guesses? Wizard?)
tuttigym
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I'm interested in looking into this
Can you give anymore information on this incident
I can't find it
I'm guessing a rule was broken
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Give it a little time. Sort of an "easy math puzzle." Wizard?
tuttigym
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Clever
Over the head for me 😉
Women's wrestling
Wow
Talk about dominance
Only lost 2 points entire Olympics
Totally dominating as one match stopped due to "technical superiority"
She is so dominating, coach surprised she gave up 2 lol
Only 20 years old
Has not lost in 5 years. Incredible
https://youtu.be/BvqexDenC_A?si=xsDhLMVqkRgpv8WA
What a race
USA wins gold
Amazing come from behind victory passing 4 runners
Very exciting race
Quote: terapined400m Men Track and Field
What a race
USA wins gold
Amazing come from behind victory passing 4 runners
Very exciting race
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Dude was spent the last 100 meters. Had to dig deep pull out the victory!
Did you watch the women's pole vault? No WR, but an exciting competition!
USA vs Serbia
Very exciting
USA behind deep into 3rd quarter
