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January 21st, 2024 at 2:03:08 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

Quote: gordonm888

Yes, I'm out. Overtaken by circumstances - I have no excuses. Good luck to everyone
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Hope everything is ok.
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Thank you so much for the sentiment. All is reasonably well. I was waiting on some last minute injury news (McCaffrey, et al.) before making picks. A female relative who lives nearby had am external water pipe burst due to the cold temperatures and her basement was accumulating water. I went to help and forgot about the picks contest until the deadline was past. So, yes, no good deed goes unpunished!
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January 22nd, 2024 at 6:36:01 AM permalink
Greetings!

I completed the grading for the Conference Semi-Final in the previous post, so please confirm your week there if you care to. I do plan to look it over one more time, so there shouldn't be any mistakes.

With that, here were the Standings going into the week:

UnJon: $850
VegasBrent: $850
Sparty10k: $755
SOOPOO: $750
Gordonm888: $721
GenWyzgy: $672
JML24: $600
PlayYourCardsRight: $558
Mission146: $554
OdiousGambit: $550
JohnZimbo: $500
NCFatCat: $500
Scolist: $350
IndyJeffrey: $350
JohnnyQ: $350
Joeman: $220
DJChaps: $175
Nunbeater: ELIMINATED


Here are the new Standings:

1.) Unjon: $1,345
2.) Genwyzgy: $872
3.) VegasBrent: $865
4.) OdiousGambit: $650
5.) JML24: $600
6.) SOOPOO: $517
7.) Sparty10k: $450
8.) PlayYourCardsRight: $420
9.) Scolist: $400
10.) JohnnyQ: $250
11.) Mission146: $249
12.) DJChaps: $200
13.) IndyJeffrey: $200
14.) Joeman: $161
15.) NcFatCat: $100
JohnZimbo: Eliminated
Gordonm888: Eliminated (DQ)
Nunbeater: Eliminated
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January 22nd, 2024 at 6:51:31 AM permalink
Greetings!

I checked for errors and the only one I found was Standings (not actually grading) because I fat-fingered SOOPOO into $217 (number pad), rather than $517, and have since corrected that. Please feel free to double check the grading, but I believe everything else is correct.

The story of this week is two eliminations, but mostly UnJon taking a commanding lead. Betting entirely on the Chiefs game (and after an excellent Wildcard Weekend), UnJon nailed everything about that game perfectly and now has a bankroll of $1,345, making GenWyzgy a distant second place with $872, which is $473 less.

I would say everyone from Scolist up should be in decent shape to try to take a stab at finishing in the cash, but some on the lower end of that are going to be thinking about taking some +ODDS shots. Anyone at or below JohnnyQ will likely be having shot-taking on their minds and will likely need some help besides.

The All Dogs to win strategy certainly didn't pay off for me, but I really didn't like having so many people significantly ahead of me, so I decided it was time to pick my hill to die on. I'm not quite dead, but it's definitely a Monty Python and the Holy Grail moment. Interestingly, I wouldn't have done this strategy had I known Gordon was going to DQ; I had noticed that he hadn't made his Picks when I made mine; my assumption was that he would make his Picks and it wouldn't have been right to change my strategy based on whether or not he made his picks anyway, so I just made mine.

I wish everyone luck as we go into the Conference Championships. The only games are Sunday, starting at 3:00p.m. (EST) so everyone can expect lines on Thursday with a deadline of noon Sunday.
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January 22nd, 2024 at 8:54:19 AM permalink
Love that positive variance! I predict I will be well ahead going into the Super Bowl then manage to lose.
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January 25th, 2024 at 12:52:17 PM permalink
Greetings!

For each game, we are going to do six main line type bets and seven props; the Super Bowl will have more prop bets added to make at least twenty total lines to choose from.

The Conference Championship Lines are as follows:

GAME 1: KANSAS CITY CHIEFS @ BALTIMORE RAVENS

1a.) Kansas City +4, +100
1b.) Baltimore Ravens -4, +100
1c.) Kansas City TO WIN +175
1d.) Baltimore Ravens TO WIN -175
1e.) Kansas City Chiefs @ Baltimore Ravens OVER 44.5 +100
1f.) Kansas City Chiefs @ Baltimore Ravens UNDER 44.5 +100

PROPS:

1g.) Lamar Jackson OVER 1.5 PASSING Touchdowns +150
1h.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 269.5 PASSING Yards +220
1i.) Lamar Jackson OVER 0.5 Interceptions +150
1j.) Lamar Jackson OVER 74.5 RUSHING Yards +150
1k.) Baltimore Ravens OVER 30.5 Points +275
1l.) Kansas City Chiefs OVER 23.5 Points +180
1m.) Baltimore Ravens to WIN Both Halves YES +250

GAME 2: DETROIT LIONS @ SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

2a.) Detroit Lions +7.5 -120
2b.) San Francisco 49ers -7.5 +100
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300
2d.) San Francisco 49ers TO WIN -300
2e.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers OVER 51.5 +100
2f.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers UNDER 51.5 +100

PROPS:

1g.) Brock Purdy OVER 311.5 Passing Yards +220
1h.) Jared Goff OVER 291.5 Passing Yards +220
1i.) Brock Purdy OVER 2.5 Passing Touchdowns +175
1j.) Christian McCaffrey OVER 105.5 Rushing Yards +220
1k.) George Kittle OVER 80.5 Receiving Yards +220
1l.) NEITHER TEAM SCORES 30+ POINTS +160
1m.) San Francisco Wins Both Halves YES +160

This week's relevant rules:

3a.) All players will make no fewer than two selections during the Conference Championship Week. (If possible)

3b.) All players will make no greater than ten bets during the Conference Championship Week.

3c.) The minimum bet amount permitted is $50, per bet.

3d.) The maximum bet amount permitted is $200, per bet.

4.) The Super Bowl will consist of the following Lines:

All players who have not been eliminated have sufficient bankroll to make two Picks of at least $50 each, so there shouldn't be any problems.

PICKS ARE DUE BY SUNDAY AT 10:00A.M., EST; REMINDERS WILL BE SENT, AT SOME POINT, ON SATURDAY
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January 25th, 2024 at 1:37:40 PM permalink
Did you mean to make 2(a) -120? and 2(b) +100?

You normally squeeze out the juice so there’s no gap.
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January 26th, 2024 at 7:30:10 AM permalink
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Did you mean to make 2(a) -120? and 2(b) +100?

You normally squeeze out the juice so there’s no gap.
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That was intentional; it was something like -125/+105 yesterday (as I recall), so I just did something with it. I guess I could have made both -110, but that's more of a PITA number for people to deal with. It's a strange line in being a half point off a key push number.
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January 27th, 2024 at 6:03:43 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Conference Championship Picks reminders have been sent.
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January 28th, 2024 at 7:14:09 AM permalink
Mission's picks received
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January 28th, 2024 at 7:59:13 AM permalink
Good luck to those remaining. I will follow from the basement as a spectator :)
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January 28th, 2024 at 8:01:13 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Conference Championship Picks are as follows:

Mission146:
1k.) Baltimore Ravens OVER 30.5 Points +275---$59
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300---$190

Starting Bankroll: $249
Amount Bet: $249
New Bankroll:

Sparty10k:
1a) Kansas City +4, +100---$50
1j) Lamar Jackson over 74.5 rushing yards---$100
2e) 2e.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers OVER 51.5 +100---$50
2i) Brock Purdy over 2.5 passing TDs---$100
2k) George Kittle over 80 receiving yards---$50

Starting Bankroll: $450
Amount Bet: $350 ($100 Remaining)
New Bankroll:

Odiousgambit:
1a.) Kansas City +4, +100---$100
1i.) Lamar Jackson OVER 0.5 Interceptions +150---$200
2a.) Detroit Lions +7.5 -120---$200
2f.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers UNDER 51.5 +100---$100

Starting Bankroll: $650
Amount Bet: $600 ($50 Remaining)
New Bankroll:

DJChaps:
1h) Mahommes 0269.5---$100
2i) MacAffery o105.5---$100

Starting Bankroll: $200
Amount Bet: $200
New Bankroll:

scolist:
1c.) Kansas City TO WIN +175---$50
1j.) Lamar Jackson OVER 74.5 RUSHING Yards +150---$50
1k.) Baltimore Ravens OVER 30.5 Points +275---$50
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300---$50

Starting Bankroll: $400
Amount Bet: $200 ($200 Remaining)
New Bankroll:

SOOPOO:
1c. $200 Chiefs money line
1h. $200 Mahomes over 269.5
1l. $117 Chiefs over 23.5.

Starting Bankroll: $517
Amount Bet: $517
New Bankroll:

VegasBrent:
1d.) Baltimore Ravens TO WIN -175---$175
1f.) Kansas City Chiefs @ Baltimore Ravens UNDER 44.5 +100---$100
1j.) Lamar Jackson OVER 74.5 RUSHING Yards +150---$100
2d.) San Francisco 49ers TO WIN -300---$150
2e.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers OVER 51.5 +100---$200
1i.) Brock Purdy OVER 2.5 Passing Touchdowns +175---$100

Starting Bankroll: $865
Amount Bet: $825 ($40 Remaining)
New Bankroll:

unJon:
1d.) Baltimore Ravens TO WIN -175 —$196
2f.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers UNDER 51.5 +100 — $113

Starting Bankroll: $1,345
Amount Bet: $309 ($1,036 Remaining)
New Bankroll:

GenWyzgy:
1b. Ravens -4 $100
1i. Lamar Jackson Over .5 interceptions $50
1m. Ravens to win both halves $75
2b. 49ers -7.5 $200
1m. 49ers win both halves $200

Starting Bankroll: $872
Amount Bet: $625 ($247 Remaining)
New Bankroll:

NCFATCAT:
Ravens Under 44.5 $50
Detroit to win +300 $50

Starting Bankroll: $100
Amount Bet: $100
New Bankroll:

PlayYourCardsRight:
1c.) Kansas City TO WIN +175 BET $200***
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300 BET $200***

Starting Bankroll: $420
Amount Bet: $400 ($20 Remaining)
New Bankroll:

JML24:
1c.) Kansas City TO WIN +175 $200
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300 $200
1l.) Kansas City Chiefs OVER 23.5 Points +180 $200

Starting Bankroll: $600
Amount Bet: $600
New Bankroll:

IndyJeffrey:
Detroit Lions TO WIN $150
Baltimore Ravens to WIN Both Halves YES $50

Starting Bankroll: $200
Amount Bet: $200
New Bankroll:

Joeman:
1k.) Baltimore Ravens OVER 30.5 Points +275 -- $50
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300 -- $111

Starting Bankroll: $161
Amount Bet: $161
New Bankroll:

JohnnyQ:
1b.) Baltimore Ravens -4, +100, BET 50
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300, BET 200

Starting Bankroll: $250
Amount Bet: $250
New Bankroll:

***PlayYourCardsRight originally bet $205 on both games, which is illegal. Both bets have been reduced to this week's max bet amount of $200.

NOTES:

1.) As you can see, I'm not bending over backwards to make the formatting uniform; given that I am grading these manually, there are few enough players that as long as I can tell what the Picks are, it's fine.

2.) For next year's Playoff Picks Game, assuming we keep the same format, I'm going to adjust prop lines to allow for props of up to +500; I think I went too far the other way considering that we have an actual TO WIN line that matches the maximum +ODDS allowed for props.
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January 28th, 2024 at 8:03:35 AM permalink
This week should be interesting as, in uncharacteristic fashion, UnJon decided to play it extremely safe. This gives a few players in the top to middle parts of the standings an opportunity to overtake him, especially if everything goes right for VegasBrent as VB bet almost everything he had out of a strong third place position.
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January 28th, 2024 at 9:37:37 AM permalink
I didn't really have strong feelings for the games this weekend, but decided to let it ride (almost) regardless. I'm really hoping for a high scoring Detroit/SF game since Unjon and I bet opposite on that one.
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January 28th, 2024 at 9:54:26 AM permalink
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I didn't really have strong feelings for the games this weekend, but decided to let it ride (almost) regardless. I'm really hoping for a high scoring Detroit/SF game since Unjon and I bet opposite on that one.
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LFG! I love playoff football.

SF secondary is trash so I could see a crazy 4Q garbage time tipping this over. I would have much preferred betting a first half total under 25.5, but Mission did not provide that.
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January 28th, 2024 at 1:19:41 PM permalink
Sorry, i thot was 250.... shame on me
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January 28th, 2024 at 1:20:34 PM permalink
Sorry, i thot was 250.... shame on me
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January 29th, 2024 at 7:43:09 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Conference Championship Results are as follows:

Mission146:
1k.) Baltimore Ravens OVER 30.5 Points +275---$59---LOSS
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300---$190---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $249
Amount Bet: $249
New Bankroll: ELIMINATED

Sparty10k:
1a) Kansas City +4, +100---$50---RETURNS $100
1j) Lamar Jackson over 74.5 rushing yards---$100---LOSS
2e) 2e.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers OVER 51.5 +100---$50---RETURNS $100
2i) Brock Purdy over 2.5 passing TDs---$100---LOSS
2k) George Kittle over 80 receiving yards---$50---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $450
Amount Bet: $350 ($100 Remaining)
New Bankroll: $300

Odiousgambit:
1a.) Kansas City +4, +100---$100---RETURNS $200
1i.) Lamar Jackson OVER 0.5 Interceptions +150---$200---RETURNS $500
2a.) Detroit Lions +7.5 -120---$200---RETURNS $400
2f.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers UNDER 51.5 +100---$100---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $650
Amount Bet: $600 ($50 Remaining)
New Bankroll: $1,150

DJChaps:
1h) Mahommes 0269.5---$100---LOSS
2i) MacAffery o105.5---$100---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $200
Amount Bet: $200
New Bankroll: ELIMINATED

scolist:
1c.) Kansas City TO WIN +175---$50---RETURNS $137
1j.) Lamar Jackson OVER 74.5 RUSHING Yards +150---$50---LOSS
1k.) Baltimore Ravens OVER 30.5 Points +275---$50---LOSS
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300---$50---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $400
Amount Bet: $200 ($200 Remaining)
New Bankroll: $337

SOOPOO:
1c. $200 Chiefs money line---RETURNS $550
1h. $200 Mahomes over 269.5---LOSS
1l. $117 Chiefs over 23.5.---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $517
Amount Bet: $517
New Bankroll: $550

VegasBrent:
1d.) Baltimore Ravens TO WIN -175---$175---LOSS
1f.) Kansas City Chiefs @ Baltimore Ravens UNDER 44.5 +100---$100---RETURNS $200
1j.) Lamar Jackson OVER 74.5 RUSHING Yards +150---$100---LOSS
2d.) San Francisco 49ers TO WIN -300---$150---RETURNS $200
2e.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers OVER 51.5 +100---$200---RETURNS $400
1i.) Brock Purdy OVER 2.5 Passing Touchdowns +175---$100---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $865
Amount Bet: $825 ($40 Remaining)
New Bankroll: $840

unJon:
1d.) Baltimore Ravens TO WIN -175 —$196---LOSS
2f.) Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers UNDER 51.5 +100 — $113---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $1,345
Amount Bet: $309 ($1,036 Remaining)
New Bankroll: $1,036

GenWyzgy:
1b. Ravens -4 $100---LOSS
1i. Lamar Jackson Over .5 interceptions $50---RETURNS $125
1m. Ravens to win both halves $75---LOSS
2b. 49ers -7.5 $200---LOSS
1m. 49ers win both halves $200---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $872
Amount Bet: $625 ($247 Remaining)
New Bankroll: $372

NCFATCAT:
Ravens Under 44.5 $50---RETURNS $100
Detroit to win +300 $50---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $100
Amount Bet: $100
New Bankroll: $100

PlayYourCardsRight:
1c.) Kansas City TO WIN +175 BET $200***---$550
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300 BET $200***---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $420
Amount Bet: $400 ($20 Remaining)
New Bankroll: $570

JML24:
1c.) Kansas City TO WIN +175 $200---RETURNS $550
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300 $200---LOSS
1l.) Kansas City Chiefs OVER 23.5 Points +180 $200---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $600
Amount Bet: $600
New Bankroll: $550

IndyJeffrey:
Detroit Lions TO WIN $150---LOSS
Baltimore Ravens to WIN Both Halves YES $50---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $200
Amount Bet: $200
New Bankroll: ELIMINATED

Joeman:
1k.) Baltimore Ravens OVER 30.5 Points +275 -- $50---LOSS
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300 -- $111---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $161
Amount Bet: $161
New Bankroll: ELIMINATED

JohnnyQ:
1b.) Baltimore Ravens -4, +100, BET 50---LOSS
2c.) Detroit Lions TO WIN +300, BET 200---LOSS

Starting Bankroll: $250
Amount Bet: $250
New Bankroll: ELIMINATED

STANDINGS:
OdiousGambit: $1,150
Unjon: $1,036
VegasBrent: $840
PlayYourCardsRight: $570
JML24: $550
SOOPOO: $550
Genwyzgy: $372
Scolist: $337
Sparty10k: $300
NCFatCat: $100
JohnnyQ: Eliminated
Joeman: Eliminated
IndyJeffrey: Eliminated
DJChaps: Eliminated
Mission146: Eliminated
JohnZimbo: Eliminated
Gordonm888: Eliminated (Disqualified)
Nunbeater: Eliminated
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January 29th, 2024 at 7:59:02 AM permalink
Greetings!

1.) Please feel free to double-check my grading for the Conference Championship, as well as the Standings.

2.) Unjon was uncharacteristically passive in the Conference Championship, which might have been a good thing, as he lost both bets. However, OdiousGambit had an absolute monster of a Sunday and has now claimed the First Place spot.

3.) With Lines as high as +300, I would say if you're still in it, then you're still in it. There are certainly a few players that will have to throw everything (or almost everything) on one outcome hoping that nobody shares that Pick (Hey, that's how I won this last year!), but pretty much everyone except NCFatCat who is still in has a realistic chance to claim first place. I would say NCFatCat could possibly finish in the money, but is going to need a lot of losing from the folks above him.

Aside from that, I'd say if you're listed at SOOPOO or above, and you're willing to make an aggressive move if you're on the lower part of that listing, then you might be able to sneak a first place finish out of this game.

4.) As I mentioned on the Lines post, I think a cap of +300 Props is too low, so the cap next time will be +500. The idea is for everyone not eliminated to have some sort of chance, but I do want to allow for the taking of bigger shots than +300; the other problem is that we had a 'TO WIN' line (Lions) that ended up being the +ODDS cap for props, so that's certainly not the purpose of the cap.

Of course, the Line I won on last year was a +500 Line.

I guess what I'm saying is that the game was pretty good the first time and I shouldn't have tried to adjust it.
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January 29th, 2024 at 8:10:15 AM permalink
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FIRST PLACE: $210
SECOND PLACE: $85
THIRD PLACE: $75
FOURTH PLACE: $25



Anyone want to bet on SOOPOO finishing 5th?
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January 29th, 2024 at 9:23:21 AM permalink
Well, I would have picked Lions and Ravens to win as several others did. So, my disqualification only accelerated the inevitable. :)
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January 29th, 2024 at 9:43:49 AM permalink
I’m content with where I am and looking forward to taking this thing down with my superior blind dart throwing.
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January 29th, 2024 at 10:04:24 AM permalink
I believe Unjon and myself are the only 2 players in the top tier last year and this year. I'm not sure if people are using different names this year or not.

Unjon and I made a combined total of 7 bets on the Superbowl. We won a combined total of 0 of those bets, but we did have 2 of the same bets: Eagles -1.5 and the UNDER 51.

Winning is still in the realm of possibility for those left with money!

Good luck everyone!
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January 29th, 2024 at 5:08:13 PM permalink
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IndyJeffrey: Eliminated



It was fun while it lasted.

Best of luck to all who remain!
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January 29th, 2024 at 5:43:42 PM permalink
I think this is going to be that 15 minutes of fame thing
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February 3rd, 2024 at 1:35:46 PM permalink
When will the picks be posted for the Superbowl?
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February 3rd, 2024 at 3:39:57 PM permalink
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When will the picks be posted for the Superbowl?
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I think probably Tuesday; there will also be two reminders PM’ed (one right after lines are posted) to anyone still in it.
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I'm going to throw in my last second winning pick. :) Kansas City Chiefs WINS the Superbowl today is my prediction. :) I LOSE, I'll donate $100 for WOV Spring Fling Event by February 7th. :) Unless something REALLY bad happens to me.
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I'm going to throw in my last second winning pick. :) Kansas City Chiefs WINS the Superbowl today is my prediction. :) I LOSE, I'll donate $100 for WOV Spring Fling Event by February 7th. :) Unless something REALLY bad happens to me.
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I will bet you any amount of money that the Chiefs do not win the Super Bowl today; I don't want to bet on whether or not they'll win it next week.
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I made a mistake. I honestly thought that the Superbowl was TODAY. I guess I technically still owe $100 for the WOV Spring Fling Event for my mistake.
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I made a mistake. I honestly thought that the Superbowl was TODAY. I guess I technically still owe $100 for the WOV Spring Fling Event for my mistake.
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I wouldn't think so; I think you can still put $100 up based on whether or not the Chiefs win when the game is actually played. I also don't want you to think I was making fun of you for misspeaking; it was just an innocent joke that I hoped you'd also find amusing.
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I made a mistake. I honestly thought that the Superbowl was TODAY. I guess I technically still owe $100 for the WOV Spring Fling Event for my mistake.
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If there is no Spring Fling Event how about donate that $$ to a charity of the Wiz’s choosing. He used to like some Las Vegas food bank.

And it is a very generous offer you made.
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February 5th, 2024 at 6:24:27 AM permalink
No wonder I assumed that YESTERDAY was the Superbowl. Superbowl USED to be played on the FIRST Sunday of February, but it has only VERY recently been played on the SECOND Sunday of February. So I automatically assumed that February 4th, yesterday, was going to be the Superbowl.
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Greetings!

This post is just to let everyone know I will be posting the Lines this afternoon and sending reminders; this somehow slipped my mind yesterday.
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Greetings!

The Super Bowl Lines are as follows:

A.) 49ers -2 +100
B.) Chiefs +2 +100
C.) 49ers TO WIN -110
D.) Chiefs TO WIN +110
E.) 49ers v. Chiefs OVER 47.5 +100
F.) 49ers v. Chiefs UNDER 47.5 +100

PROPS:

G.) George Kittle ANYTIME Score +180
H.) Deebo Samuel ANYTIME Score +140
I.) Christian McCaffrey 2+ TD's +225
J.) Travis Kelce First to Score TD for Chiefs +300
K.) Isiah Pacheco First to Score TD for Chiefs +260
L.) Christian McCaffrey First to Score TD for 49ers +170
M.) Christian McCaffrey UNDER 0.5 TD's +140
N.) Coin Toss HEADS +100
O.) Chiefs Win Coin Toss +100
P.) Longest Drive UNDER 77.5 Yards +150
Q.) More Field Goals than Passing Touchdowns Total (Ties Lose) +140
R.) More Passing Touchdowns than Field Goals Total (Ties Lose) +120
S.) Brock Purdy OVER 19.5 Rushing Yards +220
T.) Christian McCaffrey OVER 110.5 Rushing Yards +220
U.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 36.5 Rushing Yards +210
V.) Brock Purdy OVER 280.5 Passing Yards +220
W.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 291.5 Passing Yards +210
X.) Successful Two Point Conversion (Either) +280
Y.) Chiefs EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280
Z.) 49ers EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280

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Scolist: $337
Sparty10k: $300
NCFatCat: $100

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Maximum Number of Bets: No Maximum
Minimum Bet Amount: $50
Maximum Amount Per Bet: $250

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Greetings!

The Super Bowl Lines are as follows:

A.) 49ers -2 +100
B.) Chiefs +2 +100
C.) 49ers TO WIN -110
D.) Chiefs TO WIN +110
E.) 49ers v. Chiefs OVER 47.5 +100
F.) 49ers v. Chiefs UNDER 47.5 +100

PROPS:

G.) George Kittle ANYTIME Score +180
H.) Deebo Samuel ANYTIME Score +140
I.) Christian McCaffrey 2+ TD's +225
J.) Travis Kelce First to Score TD for Chiefs +300
K.) Isiah Pacheco First to Score TD for Chiefs +260
L.) Christian McCaffrey First to Score TD for 49ers +170
M.) Christian McCaffrey UNDER 0.5 TD's +140
N.) Coin Toss HEADS +100
O.) Chiefs Win Coin Toss +100
P.) Longest Drive UNDER 77.5 Yards +150
Q.) More Field Goals than Passing Touchdowns Total (Ties Lose) +140
R.) More Passing Touchdowns than Field Goals Total (Ties Lose) +120
S.) Brock Purdy OVER 19.5 Rushing Yards +220
T.) Christian McCaffrey OVER 110.5 Rushing Yards +220
U.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 36.5 Rushing Yards +210
V.) Brock Purdy OVER 280.5 Passing Yards +220
W.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 291.5 Passing Yards +210
X.) Successful Two Point Conversion (Either) +280
Y.) Chiefs EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280
Z.) 49ers EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280

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NCFatCat: $100

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Maximum Number of Bets: No Maximum
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Maximum Amount Per Bet: $250

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Thanks as always for doing this.

To me, P is ambiguous.

By longest drive, do you mean longest drive? Or longest drive resulting in a score? Or longest drive resulting in a TD?
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By longest drive, do you mean longest drive? Or longest drive resulting in a score? Or longest drive resulting in a TD?



How about the longest drive resulting in a safety?

Will there be over 1 one point safety? +999990
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Greetings!

The Super Bowl Lines are as follows:

A.) 49ers -2 +100
B.) Chiefs +2 +100
C.) 49ers TO WIN -110
D.) Chiefs TO WIN +110
E.) 49ers v. Chiefs OVER 47.5 +100
F.) 49ers v. Chiefs UNDER 47.5 +100

PROPS:

G.) George Kittle ANYTIME Score +180
H.) Deebo Samuel ANYTIME Score +140
I.) Christian McCaffrey 2+ TD's +225
J.) Travis Kelce First to Score TD for Chiefs +300
K.) Isiah Pacheco First to Score TD for Chiefs +260
L.) Christian McCaffrey First to Score TD for 49ers +170
M.) Christian McCaffrey UNDER 0.5 TD's +140
N.) Coin Toss HEADS +100
O.) Chiefs Win Coin Toss +100
P.) Longest Drive UNDER 77.5 Yards +150
Q.) More Field Goals than Passing Touchdowns Total (Ties Lose) +140
R.) More Passing Touchdowns than Field Goals Total (Ties Lose) +120
S.) Brock Purdy OVER 19.5 Rushing Yards +220
T.) Christian McCaffrey OVER 110.5 Rushing Yards +220
U.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 36.5 Rushing Yards +210
V.) Brock Purdy OVER 280.5 Passing Yards +220
W.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 291.5 Passing Yards +210
X.) Successful Two Point Conversion (Either) +280
Y.) Chiefs EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280
Z.) 49ers EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280

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VegasBrent: $840
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JML24: $550
SOOPOO: $550
Genwyzgy: $372
Scolist: $337
Sparty10k: $300
NCFatCat: $100

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Maximum Number of Bets: No Maximum
Minimum Bet Amount: $50
Maximum Amount Per Bet: $250

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Thanks as always for doing this.

To me, P is ambiguous.

By longest drive, do you mean longest drive? Or longest drive resulting in a score? Or longest drive resulting in a TD?
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I take it to mean just drive. Keep in mind you’d be talking about a drive starting deeper in your own territory than even a kickoff touchback is these days.
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Greetings!

The Super Bowl Lines are as follows:

A.) 49ers -2 +100
B.) Chiefs +2 +100
C.) 49ers TO WIN -110
D.) Chiefs TO WIN +110
E.) 49ers v. Chiefs OVER 47.5 +100
F.) 49ers v. Chiefs UNDER 47.5 +100

PROPS:

G.) George Kittle ANYTIME Score +180
H.) Deebo Samuel ANYTIME Score +140
I.) Christian McCaffrey 2+ TD's +225
J.) Travis Kelce First to Score TD for Chiefs +300
K.) Isiah Pacheco First to Score TD for Chiefs +260
L.) Christian McCaffrey First to Score TD for 49ers +170
M.) Christian McCaffrey UNDER 0.5 TD's +140
N.) Coin Toss HEADS +100
O.) Chiefs Win Coin Toss +100
P.) Longest Drive UNDER 77.5 Yards +150
Q.) More Field Goals than Passing Touchdowns Total (Ties Lose) +140
R.) More Passing Touchdowns than Field Goals Total (Ties Lose) +120
S.) Brock Purdy OVER 19.5 Rushing Yards +220
T.) Christian McCaffrey OVER 110.5 Rushing Yards +220
U.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 36.5 Rushing Yards +210
V.) Brock Purdy OVER 280.5 Passing Yards +220
W.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 291.5 Passing Yards +210
X.) Successful Two Point Conversion (Either) +280
Y.) Chiefs EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280
Z.) 49ers EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280

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JML24: $550
SOOPOO: $550
Genwyzgy: $372
Scolist: $337
Sparty10k: $300
NCFatCat: $100

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Maximum Number of Bets: No Maximum
Minimum Bet Amount: $50
Maximum Amount Per Bet: $250

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Thanks as always for doing this.

To me, P is ambiguous.

By longest drive, do you mean longest drive? Or longest drive resulting in a score? Or longest drive resulting in a TD?
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I take it to mean just drive. Keep in mind you’d be talking about a drive starting deeper in your own territory than even a kickoff touchback is these days.
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I am not trying to be a (nickname for Richard), so to be clear, chiefs get the ball at own 5 yard line, drive to opponents 10 yard line, the bet is won? Or does the drive have to be completed? If they lose ten yards and end up on the 20 yard line it is now a loss?

And of course, I assume the yards of a field goal kicked do not get included in a ‘drive’?
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No TAILS or 49ers to win coin toss seems odd.
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For G and H, is it score or TD?
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February 9th, 2024 at 3:33:18 AM permalink
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Greetings!

The Super Bowl Lines are as follows:

A.) 49ers -2 +100
B.) Chiefs +2 +100
C.) 49ers TO WIN -110
D.) Chiefs TO WIN +110
E.) 49ers v. Chiefs OVER 47.5 +100
F.) 49ers v. Chiefs UNDER 47.5 +100

PROPS:

G.) George Kittle ANYTIME Score +180
H.) Deebo Samuel ANYTIME Score +140
I.) Christian McCaffrey 2+ TD's +225
J.) Travis Kelce First to Score TD for Chiefs +300
K.) Isiah Pacheco First to Score TD for Chiefs +260
L.) Christian McCaffrey First to Score TD for 49ers +170
M.) Christian McCaffrey UNDER 0.5 TD's +140
N.) Coin Toss HEADS +100
O.) Chiefs Win Coin Toss +100
P.) Longest Drive UNDER 77.5 Yards +150
Q.) More Field Goals than Passing Touchdowns Total (Ties Lose) +140
R.) More Passing Touchdowns than Field Goals Total (Ties Lose) +120
S.) Brock Purdy OVER 19.5 Rushing Yards +220
T.) Christian McCaffrey OVER 110.5 Rushing Yards +220
U.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 36.5 Rushing Yards +210
V.) Brock Purdy OVER 280.5 Passing Yards +220
W.) Patrick Mahomes OVER 291.5 Passing Yards +210
X.) Successful Two Point Conversion (Either) +280
Y.) Chiefs EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280
Z.) 49ers EXACTLY Two Touchdowns +280

STANDINGS:
OdiousGambit: $1,150
Unjon: $1,036
VegasBrent: $840
PlayYourCardsRight: $570
JML24: $550
SOOPOO: $550
Genwyzgy: $372
Scolist: $337
Sparty10k: $300
NCFatCat: $100

Minimum Number of Bets: 1
Maximum Number of Bets: No Maximum
Minimum Bet Amount: $50
Maximum Amount Per Bet: $250

Picks are due Sunday, February 11th by 10:00a.m. EST
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Thanks as always for doing this.

To me, P is ambiguous.

By longest drive, do you mean longest drive? Or longest drive resulting in a score? Or longest drive resulting in a TD?
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I take it to mean just drive. Keep in mind you’d be talking about a drive starting deeper in your own territory than even a kickoff touchback is these days.
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I am not trying to be a (nickname for Richard), so to be clear, chiefs get the ball at own 5 yard line, drive to opponents 10 yard line, the bet is won? Or does the drive have to be completed? If they lose ten yards and end up on the 20 yard line it is now a loss?

And of course, I assume the yards of a field goal kicked do not get included in a ‘drive’?
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Drives are net yards; successful FGs don’t add distance to drives; the drive just ends with a field goal. If the Chiefs drove from the ten to the opposite ten, then the bet would win as that would be an eighty yard drive. Such drives would also typically end in a score, barring fumble, interception or turnover on downs (in the event going for it on 4th down makes sense.)

In any event, I got the line from DraftKings and it didn’t specify that it be a scoring drive in any way.
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No TAILS or 49ers to win coin toss seems odd.
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Those were mostly for filler anyway and are, essentially, the same bet as far as I’m concerned. I mainly just included those to offer a few additional even money options.
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February 9th, 2024 at 3:36:14 AM permalink
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TD is generally the only way the players in question would score, but it says, ‘Anytime score,’ so if Deebo Samuel were to, for some reason, kick a field goal—it would count.

If they were to throw a pass, it would not count; they’d not be construed as the player who scored.
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TD is generally the only way the players in question would score, but it says, ‘Anytime score,’ so if Deebo Samuel were to, for some reason, kick a field goal—it would count.

If they were to throw a pass, it would not count; they’d not be construed as the player who scored.
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His question was most likely referring to scoring a two point conversion.
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For G and H, is it score or TD?
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TD is generally the only way the players in question would score, but it says, ‘Anytime score,’ so if Deebo Samuel were to, for some reason, kick a field goal—it would count.

If they were to throw a pass, it would not count; they’d not be construed as the player who scored.
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His question was most likely referring to scoring a two point conversion.
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Ha! I missed that. Two point conversions do not count to ANYTIME scorer bets because the touchdown is what constitutes a score.
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I would argue that a 2-point conversion is a score, but you clarified it in your response.

You may want to change that to ANYTIME TD. Not trying to be picky, but other options have "TD" in the description, but these 2 have "score."
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I would argue that a 2-point conversion is a score, but you clarified it in your response.

You may want to change that to ANYTIME TD. Not trying to be picky, but other options have "TD" in the description, but these 2 have "score."
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I can if you prefer, but I don’t think that’s actually technically accurate. I believe if they actually were to kick a FG, or somehow recover a safety (on defense or ST), it would count as a score for purposes of the bet.
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I would argue that a 2-point conversion is a score, but you clarified it in your response.

You may want to change that to ANYTIME TD. Not trying to be picky, but other options have "TD" in the description, but these 2 have "score."
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I can if you prefer, but I don’t think that’s actually technically accurate. I believe if they actually were to kick a FG, or somehow recover a safety (on defense or ST), it would count as a score for purposes of the bet.
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A ‘pick two’, meaning an interception during a two point conversion attempt, returned all the way to the end zone, is a ‘score’ in my book. But you are positing that the actual successful two point conversion is not a score?

I’d change it to TD for clarity.
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I would argue that a 2-point conversion is a score, but you clarified it in your response.

You may want to change that to ANYTIME TD. Not trying to be picky, but other options have "TD" in the description, but these 2 have "score."
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I can if you prefer, but I don’t think that’s actually technically accurate. I believe if they actually were to kick a FG, or somehow recover a safety (on defense or ST), it would count as a score for purposes of the bet.
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A ‘pick two’, meaning an interception during a two point conversion attempt, is a ‘score’ in my book. But you are positing that the actual successful two point conversion is not a score?

I’d change it to TD for clarity.
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Mission are you sure that DK wouldn’t draft a 2 point conversion as a win here? Not clear to me, but maybe you dug through their rules.
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February 9th, 2024 at 9:12:17 AM permalink
From the official NFL rules:

SECTION 1
ARTICLE 2. TYPES OF SCORING PLAYS

Points are scored as follows:

Touchdown: 6 points
Field Goal: 3 points
Safety: 2 points
Try after touchdown: 1 point or 2 points
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