Another Rock-Solid Lock-Of-The-Week In NFL Week #12!
Quote: MartinSee here
http://www.predictem.com/nfl/odds-conversion.php
This is about normal. Books have been doing these conversions forever.
Thanks! I knew the info had to be out there somewhere. Is this a "standard" conversion table, or does every book use its own?
Quote: mkl654321Do you have some kind of table that shows the relationship of money lines to spreads, i.e., what is a "fair" equivalent to +3, +7, etc.? And do those numbers correlate in any way with totals? (I have had the suspicion that being a 3-point underdog in an anticipated high-scoring game is less significant than it would be in, say, Chicago in December.)
Yes, I have such a table in my book. Through the years I've updated it a number of times, but the one is the book is still pretty good. I put the fair money line on a +3 dog at +148 in the NFL and +144 in college. I got +150 on Chicago, which normally isn't enough of a difference over fair to bother with, so I suppose I bet it somewhat on faith.
Quote: mkl654321You do realize that you have painted me into a corner? There is now no way you can win without Jerry winning, too--so what am I supposed to hope for? I now have a vested interest in the game!!!!!!
(Actually, Wiz, I hope that you and Jerry both win--it'll make you happy, and it'll fatten Jerry up, and though we'll have to endure another round of cock-crowing by Jerry if that happens, his posts won't get any more obnoxious for that. So.....go Bears!!)
Thanks for the good wishes. I thought Jerry didn't bet it because he didn't collect his winnings from the last bet, so you shouldn't be conflicted.
7-3 already! I feel like I'm sticking pins into a voodoo doll of mkl each time the Bears have the ball!
WIZARD: I only made my bet after I went on-line to see that some of my winnings were transferred from last week, which I posted about prior to deciding to make this bet. Good luck to both of us.
21-13 at the half. Looking GOOD! Keep them pins coming.
Now 28-13, and my 2 doggies are enjoying watching the dog-torturer get sacked and beaten!
Quote: JerryLogan21-13 at the half. Looking GOOD! Keep them pins coming.
Thanks. I could use some luck (i.e. random variation on the right side of the bell curve). The last three weeks in the NFL have been dreadful for me, including today so far. It is times like these I need to reread my signature.
Quote: WizardThanks. I could use some luck (i.e. random variation on the right side of the bell curve). The last three weeks in the NFL have been dreadful for me, including today so far. It is times like these I need to reread my signature.
31-13. To help everyone out on this forum, I will make a few picks each week from here on out and I will ony identify the one or ones I bet. It'll be called "Logan's Run"
On your money line bet @ -155, what's the win amount for such a bet? I believe it's more than I get with the same bet at -110 right?
155 dollars profit per 100 bet.
-155 would be bet 155 dollars to win 100.
Quote: thecesspitI assume the Wizard got +155....
155 dollars profit per 100 bet.
-155 would be bet 155 dollars to win 100.
OK thanks, I wrote it wrong. So since the Bears are going to win he wins around $700.
As opposed to a ~$450 win if you took the points for $500.
That TD will make the ML bettors sweat it for a few more minutes.
By few I meant one :)
Quote: WizardYes, I have such a table in my book. Through the years I've updated it a number of times, but the one is the book is still pretty good. I put the fair money line on a +3 dog at +148 in the NFL and +144 in college. I got +150 on Chicago, which normally isn't enough of a difference over fair to bother with, so I suppose I bet it somewhat on faith.
Thanks for the good wishes. I thought Jerry didn't bet it because he didn't collect his winnings from the last bet, so you shouldn't be conflicted.
Well, I assume he had other money available....though Ill bet he wishes he had bet the farm, as he puts it. Congrats on winning $500, if the Bears hold out. Looks like Jerry will win no matter what, and you will PROBABLY win...
Second, that NAMBLA comment is going over the line. I'm going to give you a chance to apologize, or convince me it wasn't an implication about mkl, before deciding what action to take.
Quote: WizardFirst, congratulations are in order. Thanks for the pick, you've helped make a horrible day for me a little better. Of course, anybody can get 2 out of 2, so I look forward to more stone cold locks to increase the sample size.
Second, that NAMBLA comment is going over the line. I'm going to give you a chance to apologize, or convince me it wasn't an implication about mkl, before deciding what action to take.
It's the "National Man-Boy Love Association", which advocates consensual sex between men and underage boys.
That isn't the worst thing Jerry has said about me in the last few days, not by a long shot.
Quote: WizardFirst, congratulations are in order. Thanks for the pick, you've helped make a horrible day for me a little better. Of course, anybody can get 2 out of 2, so I look forward to more stone cold locks to increase the sample size.
Second, that NAMBLA comment is going over the line. I'm going to give you a chance to apologize, or convince me it wasn't an implication about mkl, before deciding what action to take.
I hope I can keep up the good betting. It's starting to make up for the vp money I lost earlier in the year.
I don't see that my reference to NAMBLA was in reference to anyone but me. I said I got off on sticking pins into my voodoo doll whenever Da Bears had the ball, which was good enough for me since I wasn't "getting off" as a NAMBLA member. I can however, see how MKL would think that's in reference to him....BY ALL MEANS I can now see that, and I therefore apologize for rattling him in such a way.
BTW, I know you don't have time to read everything, but did you see where he called me a "shit" yesterday? It was so offensive I couldn't sleep a wink last night.
Quote: SOOPOOReturning to the thread, congrats JL. You are now 2 for 2, putting your choice out there for all of us to see. And congrats to the Wiz, for his pick as well.
Thank you! And I'm eyeing TWO games that I most likely will bet on in next week's games. Of course, I will post them so mkl can cheer me on.
JL for the NAMBLA comment. I don't buy that it wasn't directed at mkl. That organization I find repugnant beyond all words. Even insinuating a fellow member has anything to do with it is cause for suspension. I still want the record to show that I did win $750 based on Jerry's pick today, and express my thanks for that. However, that can't buy him forgiveness in this case.
Mkl for the rant above. Maybe he won't return after the five days anyway, so the term won't make any difference. He is probably happy to go out in a blaze of glory.
Quote: SOOPOOReturning to the thread, congrats JL. You are now 2 for 2, putting your choice out there for all of us to see. And congrats to the Wiz, for his pick as well.
JL is 2 for 3. He made another "Lock" post in the NFL week 4 predictions. He got that one wrong.
Which I fully admit I've not kept up with. I always seem to lose track on the predictions after I visit Vegas and have my bets for the year...
Edit: Whoops, that game was MKL predicting a Saints win in week 2. Have to keep looking for the JL game. Sorry if I misled, I confuse those two sometimes...
Quote: WizardI've decided to suspend both JL and mkl for 5 days.
JL for the NAMBLA comment. I don't buy that it wasn't directed at mkl. That organization I find repugnant beyond all words. Even insinuating a fellow member has anything to do with it is cause for suspension. I still want the record to show that I did win $750 based on Jerry's pick today, and express my thanks for that. However, that can't buy him forgiveness in this case.
Mkl for the rant above. Maybe he won't return after the five days anyway, so the term won't make any difference. He is probably happy to go out in a blaze of glory.
How are we suppose to get his next pick if you kick him off?
Quote: SONBP2How are we suppose to get his next pick if you kick him off?
Flip a coin. Seriously, I don't know why we are giving a guy whose gone exactly 2 from 3 such a big reputation.
I've no problem him sharing them, or telling us his big bets, but really he's made two good plays. And that's it. I can do that with a coin 25% of the time :)
Quote: thecesspitJL is 2 for 3. He made another "Lock" post in the NFL week 4 predictions. He got that one wrong.
I looked up the week 4 JL pick.
Quote: JerryLogan
I only bet on one a week for entertainment and this one's a sure thing: Atlanta at -7. Got a dime on it. SF's dazed & confused, & the Falcons just went into NO and beat the best. -- NFL Week 4 predictions
Final score: SF 14, Atl 16
Quote: Wizard
This is my single favorite comment..... Thanks, Wiz
Quote: SOOPOOThis is my single favorite comment..... Thanks, Wiz
You're welcome. The D word is one, that try as I might, can never remember how to spell it.
