Another Rock-Solid Lock-Of-The-Week In NFL Week #12!
Quote: JerryLoganBUT, for mkl and any other complainer that wonders why I did not bet the Chicago-Philly game: I checked and found my on-line wagers have been paid and are in my account. So I made a $1500 bet on Chicago when I really wasn't going to bet it. I am that sure it's a sure thing, but if I lose then I'm blaming 3 or 4 posters. I could also thank them if I win, but they ain't gonna get that.
Seriously? We MADE you bet?
Screw you then buddy. Don't come and tell me you have a sure fire lock, bet this game, then blame anyone but yourself if it loses.
Either have the courage of your convictions, or keep quiet. No one likes it when someone whines like a girl when their bet fails because some anonymous nerds forced them to bet a game. Jeez.
Quote: thecesspitSeriously? We MADE you bet?
Screw you then buddy. Don't come and tell me you have a sure fire lock, bet this game, then blame anyone but yourself if it loses.
Either have the courage of your convictions, or keep quiet. No one likes it when someone whines like a girl when their bet fails because some anonymous nerds forced them to bet a game. Jeez.
As I've said elsewhere, if a person (and Jerry, I guess, is a person) truly thinks he has sniffed out a "lock", then he should bet everything he has on it, and not bet a lesser amount and then bitch about doing it, to boot. So I interpret JL's reluctance as an acknowledgment that even HE doesn't believe he has a "lock".
Of course, that is the sensible approach. There is no such thing as a "lock", or even close to it. In any case, what's the point of announcing it, except to give yourself chest-thumping rights if you happen to get lucky?
You're right, though, blaming other people if you lose is SO girly.
Quote: DocOff-topic question: What kind of (USA) bank limits how much of your money you can transfer elsewhere? And why? I know I have made a number of out-of-bank transfers larger than you are talking about using my BoA accounts. Recently they have, indeed, established a SafePass procedure that limits on-line transfers unless you take a couple of simple steps that assure you are not becoming a victim of on-line fraud, but I have never had them get in the way of legitimate financial transactions. Just curious about what you are encountering with your bank.
I'm at BofA also and if you're a good-standing customer for many years with multiple hi-dollar accounts, they allow the account owner to set limits on just about anything they might do. I set my own credit card limit, debit card withdrawal limit, debit card purchase limit, and transfer limit.
On topic, who cares if I blame or thank anyone here for anything I do. What a bunch of sissies! BTW mkl, while I'm looking at my wife's "girly" legs tonight, you'll be peeking down at a picture of Adam Lambert holding glands....I mean, hands, with Boy George!
Quote: JerryLoganOn topic, who cares if I blame or thank anyone here for anything I do. What a bunch of sissies!!
You care, obviously. Blame me, and you are the sissy, girly boy, however large your manhood or long your wife's legs are.
Quote: thecesspitYou care, obviously. Blame me, and you are the sissy, girly boy, however large your manhood or long your wife's legs are.
Remember the ultra-macho neighbor's dad who continually screamed at his son in "American Beauty"? And how late in the movie, he made a pass at Kevin Spacey?
I've noted that MANY of the men who go to elaborate lengths to flaunt their "manhood", and particularly those who display rampant homophobia, are actually struggling with latent homosexual urges and gender identity problems, themselves. Methinks the Jerry doth protest too much.
How girly of him.
Quote: JerryLoganBUT, for mkl and any other complainer that wonders why I did not bet the Chicago-Philly game: I checked and found my on-line wagers have been paid and are in my account. So I made a $1500 bet on Chicago when I really wasn't going to bet it. I am that sure it's a sure thing, but if I lose then I'm blaming 3 or 4 posters. I could also thank them if I win, but they ain't gonna get that.
LOL, just so you know, I think you're going to lose this one. Of course. I thought you were going to lose the last one... and, I really don't care one way or the other, except as lulz.
Quote: MoscaLOL, just so you know, I think you're going to lose this one. Of course. I thought you were going to lose the last one... and, I really don't care one way or the other, except as lulz.
Lulz? Plural of "lol"?
Quote: thecesspitYou care, obviously. Blame me, and you are the sissy, girly boy, however large your manhood or long your wife's legs are.
Yeah like I'm gonna care if a bunch of whiners too afraid to post their real names, are also cowardly.
I should post a picture of my wife's legs; makes her look like she's still in her mid-twenties. Of course, I WAS thinking it would impress most of you, but seeing that I was dead wrong about how the majority of this board's members were in the upper middle class neighborhood only to discover how so many are merely simple cheapskates that actually pull in LESS than mkl....believing nice legs could impress anyone who believes making theoretical dollars is better than making real money or how putting out gaming challenges is ONLY done to solicit more stupid theories from people who get chubbies from reading formulas and statistics, it'd be another ginormous waste of time.
So lets get back to complimenting how generous and gentle the casinos are, why laying blame for winning or losing a bet makes anonymous posters cry like ferocious brutes, how the poor & talent-starved uneducated dealers need tips to survive the wonderful LV real estate boom, and how pickup trucks intimidate your typical girly-car driver.
Or, we could all wait for the next mkl essay that's full of made-up-on-the-go assertions hits the pavement.
Quote: mkl654321Remember the ultra-macho neighbor's dad who continually screamed at his son in "American Beauty"? And how late in the movie, he made a pass at Kevin Spacey?
I've noted that MANY of the men who go to elaborate lengths to flaunt their "manhood", and particularly those who display rampant homophobia, are actually struggling with latent homosexual urges and gender identity problems, themselves. Methinks the Jerry doth protest too much.
How girly of him.
There's no such thing as the homophobia you keep mentioning. How could there be, when we all know being gay is just a sickness the unfortunates are burdened with. It's not their fault they have that illness or the need to speak with a lisp and wave their hands like fairies. Lots of people have that condition, and it's nothing to laugh at. Besides, who can argue with two grown men wanting to both watch the same hockey game at the same time on TV? There are some really good games these days.....
Bet the daughter's farm.
Quote: mkl654321Lulz? Plural of "lol"?
azackly.
Quote: SOOPOOJerry, what do you mean by a sure thing? You can't possibly mean that there is NO CHANCE that the Eagles will cover. How many 'sure thing bets' have you identified, and have you ever been wrong on one of them? My experience with the NFL is that there are no sure things.
That's an expression for "if I don't win this bet then you can call me any name you like and I won't mind". I'll put it in slightly different terms: Last week I made a bet I KNEW I would win because of what I knew that probably few others did. I put this game on nearly the same level. I'm just not betting as much on it because I was somewhat loose betting as much as I did when I never have before.
Quote: JerryLoganVomited some boring rambling essay...
Yadda, yadda, yadda.
Quote: JerryLoganI should post a picture of my wife's legs; makes her look like she's still in her mid-twenties.
I dare you to post pictures of your smoking hot wife's legs, so we can all be jealous or whatever. Do it.
Quote: JerryLoganYeah like I'm gonna care if a bunch of whiners too afraid to post their real names, are also cowardly.
I should post a picture of my wife's legs; makes her look like she's still in her mid-twenties. Of course, I WAS thinking it would impress most of you, but seeing that I was dead wrong about how the majority of this board's members were in the upper middle class neighborhood only to discover how so many are merely simple cheapskates that actually pull in LESS than mkl....believing nice legs could impress anyone who believes making theoretical dollars is better than making real money or how putting out gaming challenges is ONLY done to solicit more stupid theories from people who get chubbies from reading formulas and statistics, it'd be another ginormous waste of time.
So lets get back to complimenting how generous and gentle the casinos are, why laying blame for winning or losing a bet makes anonymous posters cry like ferocious brutes, how the poor & talent-starved uneducated dealers need tips to survive the wonderful LV real estate boom, and how pickup trucks intimidate your typical girly-car driver.
Or, we could all wait for the next mkl essay that's full of made-up-on-the-go assertions hits the pavement.
The above post by Jerry contains at least nine assertions, and here we were thinking that Jerry was dead-set against assertions. Especially the "made-up" kind, like the ones above. He also seems to hate the concept of the essay--could this be the result of failing grades received during his seven years of high school (note that I haven't written a single essay on this board--which means that he doesn't even know what an essay IS, even though he's against them)?
Don't be a hypocrite, Jerry. Take yourself "behind the woodshed" for making so many of those awful, made-up assertions.
Quote: ElectricDreamsI dare you to post pictures of your smoking hot wife's legs, so we can all be jealous or whatever. Do it.
They won't be of his wife's legs.
And I can't for the life of me understand why he would insult his wife by saying that her IQ is in the twenties. She HAS to be smarter than that!
Quote: JerryLoganThat's an expression for "if I don't win this bet then you can call me any name you like and I won't mind". I'll put it in slightly different terms: Last week I made a bet I KNEW I would win because of what I knew that probably few others did. I put this game on nearly the same level. I'm just not betting as much on it because I was somewhat loose betting as much as I did when I never have before.
I bet on a coin flip. I called "heads".
It came up heads.
I KNEW IT!!! I KNEW IT!!!
Quote: ElectricDreamsI dare you to post pictures of your smoking hot wife's legs, so we can all be jealous or whatever. Do it.
I'll tell you what. I just talked to her about this post, and we agreed she's do it if that guy Michael Bluejay actually goes through with that challenge he offerred that R. Singer accepted but has been subsequently turned down. I've already heard all the weak reasons and excuses why not. Now how about talking the guy into actually DOING something with substance instead of soliciting a bunch of theories. What's the difference if it's a table game or a machine, it's all casino gambling.
Why this? Remember the time Singer and his wife were over for dinner, well, it was his WIFE who commented on how Mrs. Logan had such nice young-looking legs. So let's see if we can cut a deal.
Quote: mkl654321I bet on a coin flip. I called "heads".
It came up heads.
I KNEW IT!!! I KNEW IT!!!
More weak attempts at not showing your envy. The difference? I posted the bet before the game was played. You're pretending it wasn't.
I win you lose again.
Quote: JerryLoganMore weak attempts at not showing your envy. The difference? I posted the bet before the game was played. You're pretending it wasn't.
I win you lose again.
Yes, you did, and I called the coin flip before the coin was flipped.
Would have been pretty meaningless if you had posted the bet AFTER the game was played, wouldn't it?
If a dumb statement like you just made means that "you win", in your own mind, I can only say one thing:
Yes, Jerry.
Quote: JerryLoganQuote: ElectricDreamsI dare you to post pictures of your smoking hot wife's legs, so we can all be jealous or whatever. Do it.
I'll tell you what. I just talked to her about this post, and we agreed she's do it if that guy Michael Bluejay actually goes through with that challenge he offerred that R. Singer accepted but has been subsequently turned down. I've already heard all the weak reasons and excuses why not. Now how about talking the guy into actually DOING something with substance instead of soliciting a bunch of theories. What's the difference if it's a table game or a machine, it's all casino gambling.
Why this? Remember the time Singer and his wife were over for dinner, well, it was his WIFE who commented on how Mrs. Logan had such nice young-looking legs. So let's see if we can cut a deal.
I've only ever seen Michael Bluejay offer a challenge on Table Games.
On here at least. If it was somewhere else, then,there we go, I guess I'll never see your wife's legs. My life is now incomplete.
Yes, that's my wife! Just google "skinny legs", there's lots of pictchers of her.
Quote: MoscaHey, my wife has GREAT legs.
Yes, that's my wife!
I'm Brian, and these are my wife's legs!
Quote: mkl654321I'm Brian, and these are my wife's legs!
;)
Quote: mkl654321Yes, you did, and I called the coin flip before the coin was flipped.
Would have been pretty meaningless if you had posted the bet AFTER the game was played, wouldn't it?
If a dumb statement like you just made means that "you win", in your own mind, I can only say one thing:
Yes, Jerry.
Watching you squirm after multiple failed attempts? Priceless!
I win you lose again.
Quote: mkl654321I'm Brian, and these are my wife's legs!
I kinda get the idea that if you were married, your wife would have hair on "her" legs....
Quote: JerryLoganWatching you squirm after multiple failed attempts? Priceless!
I win you lose again.
Yes, Jerry.
Quote: JerryLoganI kinda get the idea that if you were married, your wife would have hair on "her" legs....
All human females have hair on their legs, Jerry. Did you marry outside your species?
Quote: mkl654321All human females have hair on their legs, Jerry. Did you marry outside your species?
Still having trouble explaining yourself I see.
I win you lose, again!
Quote: mkl654321Yes, Jerry.
This is funny. I just got 2 PM's congratulating me for figuring out a way to keep you from writing those long, rambling essays to nowhere!
I guess....I win you lose!
Quote: JerryLoganStill having trouble explaining yourself I see.
I win you lose, again!
Yes, Jerry. Say that over and over. That makes it more true each time.
Quote: mkl654321Yes, Jerry. Say that over and over. That makes it more true each time.
OK. Because it irritates you.....I win you lose!
Quote: JerryLoganOK. Because it irritates you.....I win you lose!
Actually, it amuses me, because you look more and more stupid each time you repeat yourself.
(Bet with myself: Jerry absolutely will not be able to resist the temptation to reply, and particulary won't be able to resist saying again, "I win you lose!!!!". The 1962 Mets probably had some fans who jumped into the air and screamed, "We win!!!" after a 17-1 loss.)
Jerry - Since your opinion is that the Chi's are going to win this game straight up why not maximize your betting opportunity and bet into the money line getting 160 or 165 to 100?
As you undoubtedly know -3.5 equates to about 155 so when you can get 160 to 165 you would get a little more edge.
Quote: MartinGosh - I know how much all of this slap and tickle means to you guys but can we get back to reality for a moment.
Jerry - Since your opinion is that the Chi's are going to win this game straight up why not maximize your betting opportunity and bet into the money line getting 160 or 165 to 100?
As you undoubtedly know -3.5 equates to about 155 so when you can get 160 to 165 you would get a little more edge.
Martin: I sort of get what you're saying, but I'm really just a novice when it comes to betting sports. There's probably better opportunities out there after determining, for whatever reason, that I "know" one team is going to cover, but I'm not good at understanding them. Are you saying that, based on how bullish I am that Chicago will win by at least 4 points today, I could have put my $1500 on a different bet that you believe has more value?
Generally speaking if you have a strong opinion on the game and you "know" that the small dog will win you are usually better off taking the odds.
For example the Green Bay - Atlanta match-up is Atlanta -1.5/-2 which is nominally even. -2 translates to a money line of -130/110 which is exactly what the books are offering. That means if you like Atlanta you have to lay 130 to win 100 and if you like Green Bay you bet 100 to get 110. If you believe, as I might, that Green Bay has a good chance to win this game outright you would be stupid to take 1.5 or 2 points for even money and should take the odds and get 1.10 to 1 for your trouble.
Another example - The longest game on the board today is the Carolina - Cleveland (this game has been off the boards all week) at Cleveland -9.5. There is no way that Carolina is going to win this game (well they do have about a 1 in 5 chance so not "no" way). The Bodog site has the money line as -500/350. If you simply have to bet this game your best bet would be to lay the money and not give the points. Cleveland "should" win this game - but will they by 9.5 points? That's the question isn't it? It might be a blowout but the over/under is 37.5 which is the lowest on the boards this week and it kind of "suggests" no blowout.
Hope I've made it a little clearer.
Quote: WizardI was on the fence about this game but will bet $500 on Chicago money line for fun. At this point +150 is the best I can find. I think that is a better value than +3 -110.
And that, young sir, is a good bet.
Philly 23 - Chicago 17
Quote: FinsRuleChicago is overrated.
Philly 23 - Chicago 17
I personally agree with your assessment - however without a disagreement there wouldn't be a bet.
Quote: WizardI was on the fence about this game but will bet $500 on Chicago money line for fun. At this point +150 is the best I can find. I think that is a better value than +3 -110.
Do you have some kind of table that shows the relationship of money lines to spreads, i.e., what is a "fair" equivalent to +3, +7, etc.? And do those numbers correlate in any way with totals? (I have had the suspicion that being a 3-point underdog in an anticipated high-scoring game is less significant than it would be in, say, Chicago in December.)
Quote: WizardI was on the fence about this game but will bet $500 on Chicago money line for fun. At this point +150 is the best I can find. I think that is a better value than +3 -110.
You do realize that you have painted me into a corner? There is now no way you can win without Jerry winning, too--so what am I supposed to hope for? I now have a vested interest in the game!!!!!!
(Actually, Wiz, I hope that you and Jerry both win--it'll make you happy, and it'll fatten Jerry up, and though we'll have to endure another round of cock-crowing by Jerry if that happens, his posts won't get any more obnoxious for that. So.....go Bears!!)
Quote: JerryLoganI don't crow much when I win. In fact, I've said more about when I lose playing vp then when I win a sports bet.
Yes. I only count seven self-congratulatory posts after you "won" your "bet" last week. That's not much.
I do applaud you for being refreshingly honest about your huge VP losses. Where you go off the rails is assuming that because YOU lose, everyone else does.
Quote: mkl654321Yes. I only count seven self-congratulatory posts after you "won" your "bet" last week. That's not much.
I do applaud you for being refreshingly honest about your huge VP losses. Where you go off the rails is assuming that because YOU lose, everyone else does.
This is a laugh. On my other thread you wrote the usual DOZEN ESSAYS about how you "really hoped I would win". Now on this thread and another bet, you tell Wizard you "are torn" over whether to root for Chicago or not because I also made the bet. So if you were cheering me on in the last bet (and not hoping I would lose, like I and everyone else knew you really were) then my friend, you seem to have gotten your tit in the wringer once again.
Time for another face-saving make-it-up-on-the-go essay??!!
Quote: mkl654321Do you have some kind of table that shows the relationship of money lines to spreads, i.e., what is a "fair" equivalent to +3, +7, etc.? And do those numbers correlate in any way with totals? (I have had the suspicion that being a 3-point underdog in an anticipated high-scoring game is less significant than it would be in, say, Chicago in December.)
See here
http://www.predictem.com/nfl/odds-conversion.php
This is about normal. Books have been doing these conversions forever.
Quote: JerryLoganThis is a laugh. On my other thread you wrote the usual DOZEN ESSAYS about how you "really hoped I would win". Now on this thread and another bet, you tell Wizard you "are torn" over whether to root for Chicago or not because I also made the bet. So if you were cheering me on in the last bet (and not hoping I would lose, like I and everyone else knew you really were) then my friend, you seem to have gotten your tit in the wringer once again.
Time for another face-saving make-it-up-on-the-go essay??!!
Yep. Here it is:
I didn't really care very much when it was just your bet. What changed my mind was when the Wiz posted HIS bet. I would have been mildly pleased if you had lost, but since now that means the Wiz would lose, too, that's no longer true--now, the pleasure at seeing the Wiz win would far exceed any displeasure at seeing you win as well.
Of, course, there's the issue of whether you're lying about placing the bet at all. You said that you're a novice to sports betting, yet you said that this bet is a "Rock-Solid Lock". In one breath, you say that you know virtually nothing, and in another breath, you say that you are CERTAIN of a given game's outcome. Which is it, Jerry?
And again, your winning would fatten you up for the 6/5 Bonus machines, so, good luck, Jerry.
