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Quote: PokerGrinderThis!
Ugh I agree with Axel, I feel gross now.
Yeah, I was wondering if Axel was going to come up for air.
Cool freeroll, GWAE! I'm following though I doubt I will be able to make it out to the Spring Fling.Quote: GWAEEven with the terrible patriots bet we have locked in a win for week 2. currently sitting at $727.81 with $670 wagered. There are still $180 in wagers outstanding. Stale lines did not impact any picks in the first slate of games.
I have noticed that for two weeks in a row now, the most lopsided games were both stinkers: 17 units on the Broncos Week 1 (which you fortunately didn't get booked), and 10 units on the Dolphins Week 2. I'm no handicapper, but I sense a trend here... ;)
Quote: JoemanCool freeroll, GWAE! I'm following though I doubt I will be able to make it out to the Spring Fling.
I have noticed that for two weeks in a row now, the most lopsided games were both stinkers: 17 units on the Broncos Week 1 (which you fortunately didn't get booked), and 10 units on the Dolphins Week 2. I'm no handicapper, but I sense a trend here... ;)
I thought about not taking the most lopsided game each week. May be a good thought. I am going to go through last years game and see if the same thing happened last year.
Quote: GWAEIncase no one cared to look at my other thread. I am using the aggregate bets to make actual wagers. It is a free roll for dinner at the spring fling. Odds are I will go busto sooner than later. If I end the season with a profit I am going to add funds to a playoff picks game. I can not remember what we had last year but I am going to add to the pot. Only those that are in the season long picks game will be eligible for my added playoffs bonus that will be determined based on the final profit. If I go busto then there is no bonus. I will be betting current lines but using picks on stale lines so it will probably end poorly but you never know and besides it is a free roll for everyone so who cares. But for what it is worth. In week 1 there was only 1 game that was affected by the line difference and current wager was on the right side of it. I cant remember which one it was but I think it was the chargers where everyone had them at -6 but current line was -5.5.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/33614-spring-fling-wov-picks-game-free-roll/4/#post739812
we'll go have a couple of cupcakes and raid your parents candy store, you'll feel much better.🎂🎂🎂🎂Quote: PokerGrinderThis!
Ugh I agree with Axel, I feel gross now.
Quote: AxelWolfwe'll go have a couple of cupcakes and raid your parents candy store, you'll feel much better.🎂🎂🎂🎂
Popcorn store thank you very much!
Quote: gordonm888In Week 2. I picked the Patriots as my confidence pick - so I did my part to diminish the amount you wagered on the Dolphins.
You know what's funny is I only picked the dolphins be cause I thought a lot of people were going to pick Patriots and i was trying to go opposite.
Here is a chart for the season so far.
Week | Record | Units +/- | Wagered | P&L |
---|---|---|---|---|
Week 1 |
10-3-1 |
+38 |
$480.00 |
+$340.91 |
Week 2 |
8-5-1 |
+21 |
$650.00 |
+$167.38 |
Overall |
18-8-2 |
+59 |
$1130.00 |
+$508.29 |
They obviously knew better than to tell you about their secret candy store.Quote: PokerGrinderPopcorn store thank you very much!
Just quit now.Quote: GWAEAnother decent week. Second week in a row that we benefited from stale lines. We would have lost the Bears game on the picks lines but my line was 2 so we had a push. Year to date we are +5 units on stale lines.
Here is a chart for the season so far.
Week Record Units +/- Wagered P&L Week 1 10-3-1 +38 $480.00 +$340.91 Week 2 8-5-1 +21 $650.00 +$167.38 Overall 18-8-2 +59 $1130.00 +$508.29
Quote: unJonJust quit now.Quote: GWAEAnother decent week. Second week in a row that we benefited from stale lines. We would have lost the Bears game on the picks lines but my line was 2 so we had a push. Year to date we are +5 units on stale lines.
Here is a chart for the season so far.
Week Record Units +/- Wagered P&L Week 1 10-3-1 +38 $480.00 +$340.91 Week 2 8-5-1 +21 $650.00 +$167.38 Overall 18-8-2 +59 $1130.00 +$508.29
tempting but where is the fun in that.
$80 Broncos +7.5 -120
$100 Lions +5 -120
$50 Ravens +5.5 -110
$70 Bengals +6.5 -110
$20 Falcons +1 -110
$30 Raiders +9 -110
$50 Jets +21.5 -105
$20 Dolphins +22 -110
$420 in action right now.
Here is a list of other games that should be bet on depending on the afternoon.
$90 Giants +5.5 -110
$100 Seahawks -5 -115
$10 Chargers -3 -110
$40 Steelers +6.5 -110
$160 Rams -3.5 -110
Quote: unJonRams were -3 in pick em game. Currently -3.5. I would not have you make the bet unless you find it at -3.
yes that is one of the reasons that I am thinking of not taking it. I have not yet. The point of this is to bet as the consensus even with the stale lines but I don't think I want to make our largest bet of the year on one that crosses the 3. If we have a good day then I will be betting it anyways. If we struggle then I probably will not.
$5 to win $843
$5 to win $2938 (had to leave off rams and jets because of max teams. I guess if they all win I can let it ride on the rams)
$4 to win $114.73
Quote: GWAEWhelp we better get some come backs or game might be over. May be unlikely since it's all the favorites winning.
It turned out decent. Now i have to decide what to do with the Rams game tonight. I am leaning towards skipping it. A lot of people took them at -3.0. Current line is -3.5, not only that it is -125. Buying the .5 makes it -155. Considering just taking the money line at -185 but maybe that defeats the purpose of this game?
Quote: GWAEIt turned out decent. Now i have to decide what to do with the Rams game tonight. I am leaning towards skipping it. A lot of people took them at -3.0. Current line is -3.5, not only that it is -125. Buying the .5 makes it -155. Considering just taking the money line at -185 but maybe that defeats the purpose of this game?
Maybe I'm missing your point, but 17-1 on Rams at -3, I don't see a whole lot of difference. You're giving up the push at -3.5, which is a semi-big thing, I guess, but I would want you to bet at least a little on it.
Quote: beachbumbabsMaybe I'm missing your point, but 17-1 on Rams at -3, I don't see a whole lot of difference. You're giving up the push at -3.5, which is a semi-big thing, I guess, but I would want you to bet at least a little on it.
I am no betting expert as I am very knew to it, but I always thought -3 to -3.5 is huge difference. The other issue at hand is that the -3.5 which is worse is -125 instead of -110. If it was -3.5 -110 and I could buy the .5 and get it at -3 for -120 then I would be ok with that. Right now the afternoon games are big losers sooooooooooo we will have to see what happens.
Quote: GWAEI am no betting expert as I am very knew to it, but I always thought -3 to -3.5 is huge difference. The other issue at hand is that the -3.5 which is worse is -125 instead of -110. If it was -3.5 -110 and I could buy the .5 and get it at -3 for -120 then I would be ok with that. Right now the afternoon games are big losers sooooooooooo we will have to see what happens.
It’s mostly -4 everywhere now and trending to -4.5.
Quote: unJonIt’s mostly -4 everywhere now and trending to -4.5.
yep I have it at -4 now but at -110, -3.5 -120, or -3.0 -150
Quote: GWAEyep I have it at -4 now but at -110, -3.5 -120, or -3.0 -150
I took it -4 for $160. Had a terrible afternoon on these picks so this will basically be an all or nothing bet. If we lose this bet the game will be over.
Good Luck to us.
Quote: DRichI am tempted to take the Browns just because of the huge consensus on the Rams. The bookies tend to be a little smarter than the public.
The line keeps moving. I am seeing -5 now. There must be some serious money coming in on the rams. Across country and prime time. Home team seems like the smart bet here.
Quote: GWAEThe line keeps moving. I am seeing -5 now. There must be some serious money coming in on the rams. Across country and prime time. Home team seems like the smart bet here.
I just took +4.5.
How abut your Pitt Panthers yesterday? That was probably the best game of the day. I only saw the end yesterday and it was great so I went back and watched the whole game this morning. Awesome game.
Quote: DRichI just took +4.5.
How abut your Pitt Panthers yesterday? That was probably the best game of the day. I only saw the end yesterday and it was great so I went back and watched the whole game this morning. Awesome game.
It was tremendous. I was going to post in the other thread that my lock of the day was Pit and was even taking them straight up. I got them at +305 but only for $50. I chickened out. I know people don't like hearing about wagers after the fact but whatever. They are my home team and alma mater so I bet them with my heart.
They played so well against Penn State and have beaten a ranked team each year for the last few years.
I had baseball games during the day so I almost didnt watch it. I overheard someone say it was 21-0 so I figured they would win. I then saw them down and almost just cheated and looked at the score but I decided to watch. So glad that I did
Quote: GWAEIt was tremendous. I was going to post in the other thread that my lock of the day was Pit and was even taking them straight up. I got them at +305 but only for $50. I chickened out. I know people don't like hearing about wagers after the fact but whatever. They are my home team and alma mater so I bet them with my heart.
They played so well against Penn State and have beaten a ranked team each year for the last few years.
I had baseball games during the day so I almost didnt watch it. I overheard someone say it was 21-0 so I figured they would win. I then saw them down and almost just cheated and looked at the score but I decided to watch. So glad that I did
You have the Blue Hens at home this weekend. I would guess you will be favored by about 19.
Quote: DRichYou have the Blue Hens at home this weekend. I would guess you will be favored by about 19.
and will lose by 12. That is how we roll.
Quote: GWAEand will lose by 12. That is how we roll.
speaking of Pitt. I will be rooting for Aaron Donald. His High School played against my local so I used to watch him, then got to see him at Pitt. Now I need him to crush it tonight
ETA: Wholly hell that was close.
Quote: GWAEthese bastards better not go for 2.... $300 play.... stupid sports betting. I should be sleeping
ETA: Wholly hell that was close.
Lol. Glad the LAR bet won, since I pushed for it.
Week | Record | Units +/- | Wagered | P&L |
---|---|---|---|---|
Week 1 |
10-3-1 |
+38 |
$480.00 |
+$340.91 |
Week 2 |
8-5-1 |
+21 |
$650.00 |
+$167.38 |
Week 3 |
7-6 |
+25 |
$770.00 |
+$197.13 |
Overall |
25-14-2 |
+84 |
$1900.00 |
+$705.42 |
Here is a table with some other data. It is not 100% accurate because my week 1 data is incomplete and I do not feel like going back to get everything exact. Too much data? Should I remove this?
Value | Record | P&L |
---|---|---|
Home Team |
3-6 |
-$164.07 |
Road Team |
21-8 |
+$731.32 |
Dog |
16-9 |
+$336.14 |
Favorite |
8-5 |
+$353.91 |
Home Dog |
2-2 |
-$23.56 |
Home Favorite |
2-4 |
-$16.80 |
Road Dog |
14-7 |
+$359.70 |
Road Favorite |
7-1 |
+$370.71 |
LOL
Quote: AxelWolfGWAE 33% last place
LOL
Whoop whoop
So this week is listed below. We have $350 in action. As usual we have a few games with line movements. Most notably are the Raiders and Jags as they got moved of the of the 3 and 7. The week will basically ride on how chiefs and raiders do. If we win those games we are in the black. If we lose both we are in the red. Happy positive variance to us all.
$30 Texans -5
$10 Ravens -7
$40 Dolphins +14.5
$70 Raiders +6
$90 Chiefs -7
$50 Patriots -7
$10 Rams -9
$30 Jaguars +2.5
$20 Saints +2.5
Week | Record | Units +/- | Wagered | P&L |
---|---|---|---|---|
Week 1 |
10-3-1 |
+38 |
$480.00 |
+$340.91 |
Week 2 |
8-5-1 |
+21 |
$650.00 |
+$167.38 |
Week 3 |
7-6 |
+25 |
$770.00 |
+$197.13 |
Week 4 |
3-7 |
-11 |
$360.00 |
-132.81 |
Overall |
28-21-2 |
+73 |
$2260.00 |
+$572.61 |
Value | Record | P&L |
---|---|---|
Home Team |
3-10 |
-$254.07 |
Road Team |
24-11 |
+$818.51 |
Dog |
19-11 |
+$513.33 |
Favorite |
8-10 |
+$163.91 |
Home Dog |
2-3 |
-$63.56 |
Home Favorite |
2-7 |
-$66.80 |
Road Dog |
17-8 |
+$456.89 |
Road Favorite |
7-3 |
+$230.71 |
Quote: Mission146Like I said in the other thread, that game is the only one skewed. I would just disregard it completely and play as if the others are the only ones.
I might but IMO it is not the only one skewed. By picking this game you are now not picking another game so it skews 2 games per person.
Quote: GWAEI might but IMO it is not the only one skewed. By picking this game you are now not picking another game so it skews 2 games per person.
True, but it seems like it doesn't skew the Picks that ARE made. It just suggests that a different additional Pick might have been made, but not that the other four picks would NOT have been made. I'd say the only skewed thing on other existing Picks is that some of them may have been Confidence, but now are not.
Quote: Mission146True, but it seems like it doesn't skew the Picks that ARE made. It just suggests that a different additional Pick might have been made, but not that the other four picks would NOT have been made. I'd say the only skewed thing on other existing Picks is that some of them may have been Confidence, but now are not.
maybe I should just bet them all as made as I have done that each week so far anyways. we were like 3-7 so not like people knew anything last week.
Quote: GWAEQuote: Mission146True, but it seems like it doesn't skew the Picks that ARE made. It just suggests that a different additional Pick might have been made, but not that the other four picks would NOT have been made. I'd say the only skewed thing on other existing Picks is that some of them may have been Confidence, but now are not.
maybe I should just bet them all as made as I have done that each week so far anyways. we were like 3-7 so not like people knew anything last week.
LOL . That's a very good point! I'd just take the unintended low variance week and stay away from 49ers game. Besides, it's one thing for the group to be wrong and another thing to make an intentionally awful pick.
You could even Amend your game to only make Picks if the actual spread you're getting is within two either way of what we got to pick, or something. Thus. the 49ers game would not qualify anyway.
Quote: GWAEQuote: Mission146True, but it seems like it doesn't skew the Picks that ARE made. It just suggests that a different additional Pick might have been made, but not that the other four picks would NOT have been made. I'd say the only skewed thing on other existing Picks is that some of them may have been Confidence, but now are not.
maybe I should just bet them all as made as I have done that each week so far anyways. we were like 3-7 so not like people knew anything last week.
"people knew anything'? Do you actually believe that the WoV consensus has some advantage over the bookies? The only possible advantage is the use of stale lines, which you won't be able to bet on, anyway.
Remember, you are kindly freerolling for us, so do what makes you feel good! I'd say bet on all the games you normally would have except the Browns game, if you want an opinion. Browns 24 49ers 21.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: GWAEQuote: Mission146True, but it seems like it doesn't skew the Picks that ARE made. It just suggests that a different additional Pick might have been made, but not that the other four picks would NOT have been made. I'd say the only skewed thing on other existing Picks is that some of them may have been Confidence, but now are not.
maybe I should just bet them all as made as I have done that each week so far anyways. we were like 3-7 so not like people knew anything last week.
"people knew anything'? Do you actually believe that the WoV consensus has some advantage over the bookies? The only possible advantage is the use of stale lines, which you won't be able to bet on, anyway.
Remember, you are kindly freerolling for us, so do what makes you feel good! I'd say bet on all the games you normally would have except the Browns game, if you want an opinion. Browns 24 49ers 21.
HAHA no of course not. I know there is no advantage. If anything it is probably worse off but I have had fun doing it. However I am hoping it turns out very good and I can offer a $500 playoff free roll.
In my local casino picks game I did pick the Browns to win the game (Not done on lines, just straight up) so I am hoping for a big win.
0-2-0. Lets hope for some positive variance this week and get back on the winning track. The money is spread out pretty good this week. We only have 1 game with a larger bet and 2 games with $60 bets.
$40 Ravens -3
$40 Bears -6.5
$20 Cardinals +3
$30 Jaguars +3
$40 Giants +5.5
$40 Patriots -16
$40 Eagles -14
$90 Saints -3
$20 Texans -4.5
$20 Titans -3
$40 Broncos +5.5
$60 Cowboys -3.5
$60 Colts +11
$540 in action with a potential win of $481.17