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NokTang
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August 15th, 2019 at 3:46:05 AM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

I look at the returning starters for each team and the playing time of reserves from the previous year. Miami for instance will be starting a QB that was third on the depth chart and a freshman. They are sitting Perry and Tate. Williams has only played in one game as a redshirt last year and he went 1 for 3. So, hes essentially a freshman QB behind an inexperienced line going against a Grantham run defense that will blitz and send one extra man on every single play. His head will be on a swivel the whole game. Ill go into it a bit next week.



The line has already moved from Florida - 7 1/2 to -7. Money has spoken. Florida has been hurt by the off the field issues which you have not mentioned in your recent posts. Defensive backfield is depleted and my inside information(from Gainesville) says the black players are upset at the white coaches getting into their off field business. "whitee don't know how to handle black bitches..". There are a lot of issues in the Florida camp. It's not a "team" yet anyhow.
lilredrooster
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August 15th, 2019 at 12:08:31 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

The line has already moved from Florida - 7 1/2 to -7. Money has spoken.



money will move the line - sometimes it's sharp money and sometimes it's public money - it's not always easy to tell
if the line moves that early it's likely to be sharps

but the sharps are wrong lots of times -

you can track the the % of money bet on each side at thespread.com - if you believe their stats are accurate which I do for various reasons - at least approximately accurately

right now according to thespread.com Missouri has drawn 89% of the money bet and the line on Mizzou has moved from -14.5 to -17.5

that is likely to be sharp money

it would be wonderful if you could track the sharp money and get in early before they move the line - and that is in some cases possible

if only it was that easy to win - but it's not

again - the sharps are wrong lots of times - it's also very possible sharp whales are manipulating the lines to get what they see as an edge - betting big early to move the line and then betting much more later against the line movement - they do this more in college games

that was one of the strategies of the Billy Walters syndicate - I have no doubt there are others doing the same thing


https://www.thespread.com/ncaa-college-football-public-betting-chart
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IndyJeffrey
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August 15th, 2019 at 2:26:16 PM permalink
There are a few things which color me skeptical, but I'm interested to see if this makes it to Bowl season.

If my math is correct he'll have between $146,332.63 and $0.07 after the season.

Any guesses on the actual total? Which week will be the final picks posted? How much of the bankroll will he end the season?
SM777
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AxelWolf
August 15th, 2019 at 6:32:01 PM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

Personal attacks, calling out vague snippets from 3 years ago, one of which was supposed to be humorous with the Han Solo reference. And, complete hijacking of a thread. Will anything be done about it? Probably not.

For someone that just mentioned that Im not bothering him, Axel you seem fairly bothered.

Not a single game has been posted yet and its up to 5 or 6 pages now filled with character profiling, CSI and investigative work the likes of which Homer Simpson would be proud.

Just stop already. Enough is enough.



You tried to sell your "service" or picks here. Told us about bets that you didn't post but won (weird how that happens) as the picks you posted were getting crushed. You lied about not selling anything here.

Am I missing anything?
michael99000
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August 15th, 2019 at 9:39:38 PM permalink
Quote: SM777

You tried to sell your "service" or picks here. Told us about bets that you didn't post but won (weird how that happens) as the picks you posted were getting crushed. You lied about not selling anything here.

Am I missing anything?



Most of the forum was aware, or is now aware, that he was guilty of everything you listed.

But Babs has asked earlier in this thread that he be given a chance to post his picks, and hopefully this time an accurate record. And not a record that includes unposted plays.

Sports bettors on this forum are a combined 742-0 on games they inform us afterwards that they bet on, but didnt post.
AxelWolf
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August 15th, 2019 at 10:33:45 PM permalink
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But Babs has asked earlier in this thread that he be given a chance to post his picks

Yeah, I guess it's nice if your picks tank one year you can just reset your record for the next year.

I'm always curious to as why if someone is such a great Sports better/system player why they wast their time posting about it and defending themselves? JUST GO DO IT. Yeah, yeah, I know, they want to give back and help the community and all that BS hogwash. It's as if they have no friends or family in order to give their great picks and systems to so they can go make boatloads of money. If you want to give back to the community just go make some big bets throughout the year win the money and donate it to the Forum and run some type of contest or something to give it away.
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JoelDeze
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August 16th, 2019 at 6:53:24 AM permalink
Quote: SM777

You tried to sell your "service" or picks here. Told us about bets that you didn't post but won (weird how that happens) as the picks you posted were getting crushed. You lied about not selling anything here.

Am I missing anything?



You are wrong as usual, and everyone knows that you post incorrect things most of the time. I have "never", not once, tried to "sell a service" on these forums in any topic thread. Show me "one" instance where I have done this. You won't find it and you won't post it because it doesn't exist. That's what really annoys you doesn't it and you bypass it every single time when asked.

I've said this in the past and others have said it too. You have been here about the same time as I have. You have 6 thread topics to your name. A majority of your post responses to others are in the form of Trolling, Berating, Instigating, Attacking and generally just being a disrupter. Why you haven't been banned yet is beyond understanding.

So, do yourself a big favor. Go through "every" post you ever written and ask yourself what percentage of your posts are a) friendly, b) helpful, c) on topic.

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JoelDeze
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August 16th, 2019 at 7:04:22 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Yeah, I guess it's nice if your picks tank one year you can just reset your record for the next year.

I'm always curious to as why if someone is such a great Sports better/system player why they wast their time posting about it and defending themselves? JUST GO DO IT. Yeah, yeah, I know, they want to give back and help the community and all that BS hogwash. It's as if they have no friends or family in order to give their great picks and systems to so they can go make boatloads of money. If you want to give back to the community just go make some big bets throughout the year win the money and donate it to the Forum and run some type of contest or something to give it away.



I didn't come back the next year after 2017 and post picks. The person you are describing isn't me. I took the entire year off from doing any kind of wagering because while ML picks (with very little monetary value) were okay, the ATS picks were not. It needed to be corrected so I worked hard last year on the problem.

Why do I want to post here in 2019 on ATS picks? That's more or less the right question to ask. I'm competitive. If I fail at something, I want to correct it. I want to succeed. This has nothing to do with selling a service. It has everything to do with correcting something that was obviously broken. I would rather be known as the guy who tried and succeeded than the guy who tried and failed. But, who knows? Maybe that $1k bottoms out to zero. Only time will tell.

But, as for defending oneself? Wrong question. Wrong questions get wrong answers. Anyone, if attacked or when someone posts false information about them, will defend themselves. Take this very thread. The thread topic had parameters clearly set for when I begin and what I would be doing. It corrects every thing that you or anyone else could potentially complain about. I'd have "images" of the wagers before the game is played. What is so hard to understand about that? I'm only doing ATS, not ML or Totals. What is hard to understand about that? Instead of focusing on what the thread is about (which not a single game has been posted yet), SM777 has been attacking and taking it off topic. And, then you yourself have been sitting in his corner. Why in hell would you want to side with SM777? Do you really want to be lumped in with him?

So, again, read the first few posts in this thread and for the love of all programmers that ever created a forum software to post in, "PLEASE STAY ON FRIGGIN TOPIC!".

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SM777
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August 16th, 2019 at 8:01:47 AM permalink
Quote: JoelDeze

You are wrong as usual, and everyone knows that you post incorrect things most of the time. I have "never", not once, tried to "sell a service" on these forums in any topic thread. Show me "one" instance where I have done this. You won't find it and you won't post it because it doesn't exist. That's what really annoys you doesn't it and you bypass it every single time when asked.

I've said this in the past and others have said it too. You have been here about the same time as I have. You have 6 thread topics to your name. A majority of your post responses to others are in the form of Trolling, Berating, Instigating, Attacking and generally just being a disrupter. Why you haven't been banned yet is beyond understanding.

So, do yourself a big favor. Go through "every" post you ever written and ask yourself what percentage of your posts are a) friendly, b) helpful, c) on topic.

This is your kick in life. Enjoy it while it lasts.



I can't link to others DM's, but you sent multiple people on this forum a free rate, and an option to continue your service if they pay. I wasn't one of them because I called out your scam from the beginning. I suppose that multiple members of the site are lying about receiving this, but that seems unlikely a sports betting tout is telling the truth and multiple forum members put this plan together to corroborate a story about said sports betting are lying. Then, your picks failed miserably as expected, and you disappeared.

You also posted multiple times about picks you didn't post won, all while the picks you actually posted got absolutely crushed. These are facts.

Why haven't I been banned? What about someone who attempted to sell here, or lie about picks in attempt boost a record, again with the goal to sell here? Why hasn't that person been banned?

You talk a big game about sports betting. Failed miserably at posted picks, didn't sell anything, disappeared due to failed picks, returned to attempt to sell again, and I am the bad guy?
JoelDeze
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August 16th, 2019 at 8:09:12 AM permalink
Quote: SM777



Why haven't I been banned? What about someone who attempted to sell here, or lie about picks in attempt boost a record, again with the goal to sell here? Why hasn't that person been banned?

You talk a big game about sports betting. Failed miserably at posted picks, didn't sell anything, disappeared due to failed picks, returned to attempt to sell again, and I am the bad guy?



Again, show me one "post" or "thread" where I attempted to "sell a service". The fact is you don't have one and you keep posting false information about that. Saying a falsehood about a person should be a bannable offense.

Then in your second paragraph you said it again. You just said I returned to "attempt to sell again" which is also a false statement.

How many false statements can a person say about another member before they get banned?

Lastly, I don't own or operate "any service" that requires a payment to use.

EDIT: I'm editing this so that SM will fully understand this if it doesn't sink in. I DO NOT SELL ANY SERVICE OR SERVICES RELATED TO SPORTS. Got it?
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