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November 1st, 2010 at 6:49:44 PM permalink
Currently, you can go on Bodog and bet $50 on Gio Ponti to win the Breeders Cup Classic at 12/1. Or, you can go and bet $50 on Paddy O'Prado to win the Turf Classic at 8/1. Not too bad. Gio finished 2nd in the Classic last year, and Paddy is the best 3 year old turf horse in the country.

EXCEPT

Gio Ponti isn't running in the Breeders Cup Classic this year. He's running in the Turf Mile. And Paddy O'Prado isn't running in the Turf Classic. He's running in the regular classic.

So the question is: Is Bodog dishonest for having these odds posted? Or is it the player's responsibility to know everything before wagering? Or both?

I'll have all of my Breeders' Cup picks up tomorrow, so you can laugh when I go 0-14.
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November 1st, 2010 at 8:02:59 PM permalink
I don't think Bodog would knowingly offer odds on a horse that was not in the race. I also see that Pinnacle' rel='nofollow' target='_blank'>http://www.pinnaclesports.com/ContestCategory/Horses+~3A~+American+Racing/Churchill+Downs+-+Breeders+Cup+Classic/Lines.aspx]Pinnacle has Gio Ponti at 14-1.
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November 1st, 2010 at 8:04:38 PM permalink
Is it being dishonest or did they make a mistake?

What's the TOS say about this sort of thing?

I would assume that, once discovered, just like a horse that gets scratched, any bets with that horse (including combination bets) get cancelled and the money returned.

If that's the case, then what has Bodog to gain by being dishonest?
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November 1st, 2010 at 8:23:12 PM permalink
It's a futures bet. All wagers have action. No refunds.
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November 1st, 2010 at 8:23:28 PM permalink
I have a reasonable way of playing that keeps me near even in a real casino. In fun mode on Bodog, it works basically the same. As soon as I start playing for real money, it disappears as if by magic. What does that mean. It happens every time I play, so I quit playing there. Duh.
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November 2nd, 2010 at 11:53:07 PM permalink
There must be some internal problem on your system, or there could be some temporary problem on the bodog server. Otherwise bodog is a good site to play online casino games. It is considered among the top best sites to play casino games like poker, blackjack, baccarat or craps. So try again, it will definitely work fine next time or so.

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November 3rd, 2010 at 9:10:14 PM permalink
Quote: fabianbranson

There must be some internal problem on your system, or there could be some temporary problem on the bodog server. Otherwise bodog is a good site to play online casino games. It is considered among the top best sites to play casino games like poker, blackjack, baccarat or craps. So try again, it will definitely work fine next time or so.



No, it won't. I've used it on and off for years and always get the same results.
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December 4th, 2011 at 2:56:28 PM permalink
Help me out with this one then:

I'm fairly new to blackjack, still learning basic strategy and card counting basics, so maybe I'm missing something.

Bodog has 2 "new" blackjack games, 1-deck blackjack and 2-deck blackjack. I thought I would use the practice version of the 1-deck game to practice and hone my card counting, when I noticed that after 52 cards were played I was never anywhere near 0. So I started paying attention to each card to see how often they were played. Within the first 3 hands I'm seeing cards that are replayed. Because I wasn't able to find any procedures in the rules on Bodog's site, I'm now questioning if I understand exactly what 1-deck blackjack is and how its played. I was under the impression that the deck would be played all the way through before being reshuffled, or at least past the 3rd hand! I tried to search for posts on this subject before posting my own but couldn't find any. Please help. Thanks
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December 4th, 2011 at 3:03:38 PM permalink
I do believe it's common practice in normal casinos to only play a few hands in single/double deck games.

I do know you'll never find any deck games that play out an entire deck or shoe, which is why you'll always here discussions about "penetration" when describing different joints.

It seems Bodog is simulating real ife.
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December 4th, 2011 at 3:03:47 PM permalink
Quote: sam76

Help me out with this one then:

I'm fairly new to blackjack, still learning basic strategy and card counting basics, so maybe I'm missing something.

Bodog has 2 "new" blackjack games, 1-deck blackjack and 2-deck blackjack. I thought I would use the practice version of the 1-deck game to practice and hone my card counting, when I noticed that after 52 cards were played I was never anywhere near 0. So I started paying attention to each card to see how often they were played. Within the first 3 hands I'm seeing cards that are replayed. Because I wasn't able to find any procedures in the rules on Bodog's site, I'm now questioning if I understand exactly what 1-deck blackjack is and how its played. I was under the impression that the deck would be played all the way through before being reshuffled, or at least past the 3rd hand! I tried to search for posts on this subject before posting my own but couldn't find any. Please help. Thanks



Counting is useless on a site like Bodog as they either shuffle every hand or randomly shuffle.
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December 4th, 2011 at 3:08:37 PM permalink
Right...well then what's the point of calling it "1-deck blackjack" and tightening the betting limits?...especially on the "practice" version?
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December 4th, 2011 at 4:56:43 PM permalink
Quote: sam76

...well then what's the point of calling it "1-deck blackjack"


There is only one of each card that will possibly appear on a single hand.
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December 4th, 2011 at 5:05:13 PM permalink
Quote: Face

I do believe it's common practice in normal casinos to only play a few hands in single/double deck games.

I do know you'll never find any deck games that play out an entire deck or shoe, which is why you'll always here discussions about "penetration" when describing different joints.

It seems Bodog is simulating real ife.




Granted, but the practice game I use TELLS me it's shuffling.
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December 4th, 2011 at 5:17:13 PM permalink
Quote: Doc

There is only one of each card that will possibly appear on a single hand.



No card can reappear before reshuffle. Doc, I underverbosed you by 9 words. Why? Your a good guy and teasable. Now tell me why someone insists I misspelled "teasable?"
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December 4th, 2011 at 5:25:24 PM permalink
Quote: dm

No card can reappear before reshuffle. Doc, I underverbosed you by 9 words. Why? Your a good guy and teasable. Now tell me why someone insists I misspelled "teasable?"


You also misspelled "underverbosed" ;)
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December 4th, 2011 at 5:31:04 PM permalink
Quote: weaselman

You also misspelled "underverbosed" ;)



http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/teasable says otherwise but maybe you know better. The other word I misspelled on purpose because I created it. Did you not understand my intended meaning?
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December 4th, 2011 at 6:12:11 PM permalink
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/teasable says otherwise but maybe you know better. The other word I misspelled on purpose because I created it. Did you not understand my intended meaning?


I did understand the meaning, and appreciated it too. Firefox spell checker did not know the word, and highlighted it as misspelled. I thought, it would be funny to mention it, that's all.
It highlights teasable too ... I thought, that was what you meant by "someone" telling you it was misspelled.
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December 4th, 2011 at 6:58:52 PM permalink
Quote: dm

Granted, but the practice game I use TELLS me it's shuffling.



There you go...and it shouldn't be shuffling after the second hand, right?

BTW, which 1-deck practice game is this that you speak of? I didn't notice Bodog's 1-deck telling me anything.
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December 4th, 2011 at 8:39:34 PM permalink
Quote: weaselman

I did understand the meaning, and appreciated it too. Firefox spell checker did not know the word, and highlighted it as misspelled. I thought, it would be funny to mention it, that's all.
It highlights teasable too ... I thought, that was what you meant by "someone" telling you it was misspelled.




I did mean that firefox was telling me it was misspelled. But the Google search bar on top right of firefox screen thought the word was spelled OK. That's where I got the link.
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December 4th, 2011 at 8:43:44 PM permalink
Quote: sam76

There you go...and it shouldn't be shuffling after the second hand, right?

BTW, which 1-deck practice game is this that you speak of? I didn't notice Bodog's 1-deck telling me anything.




www.blackjackinfo.com/bst/ then start the trainer
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December 4th, 2011 at 9:23:15 PM permalink
Quote: weaselman

I did understand the meaning, and appreciated it too. Firefox spell checker did not know the word, and highlighted it as misspelled. I thought, it would be funny to mention it, that's all.
It highlights teasable too ... I thought, that was what you meant by "someone" telling you it was misspelled.




I took it as ridicule which was my mistake. So I retaliated against, not an enemy, but a friend. Sorry about that.
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