So looks like a 12 Game Season for Tom Brady ?

So looks like a 12 Game Season for Tom Brady ?

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If none of the players or other quarterback could notice it during the game and complain, then why is it such a big deal ? Thoughts ?

Roger Goodell can overrule, or defer it to arbitration, the latter of which I think he should do, and the arbitrator should make it 2 games.

Cheating matters. But that's too much, though it's not like a power play; there's at least one back-up QB and the rest of the team which can play. But 4 games is enough to swing making the playoffs-non-playoffs in most years, so that decision doesn't stand alone and done, no matter how many games it lasts. As it is, if they do make the playoffs, it will likely affect their seeding at a minimum.

I think it should affect their ability to make the playoffs. It's like Ron Artest getting stiffer suspensions in the NBA, the Pats/Brady are and should be getting different treatment because of past transgressions (spygate). You could argue that instead of the draft picks/suspension they should be postseason ineligible for one season because the previous draft pick penalty had no effect on the organizations operational integrity or lack thereof , but nfl fans would lose more in that scenario too and players would be risking injury for nothing other than salary.

Cover-up always worse than the crime. Tom Brady impeded the investigation and lied about his involvement. But, if he came clean maybe he has to sit the Super Bowl last year - he weighed the cost-benefit for lying.

His cheating led to a Super Bowl win. I'd suspend him for 8 and the coach too.

IMO this is about right. This is the NFL equivalent to a pitcher getting caught on the mound tampering with the baseball. A pitcher would get 30-40 games which would be an NFL equivalent of 3-4.

I have mentioned it many time and would do it if I could. I can see someone doing a class action against teams or NFL for these cheating scandals. When you bet you assume a fair game, IMO

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I have mentioned it many time and would do it if I could. I can see someone doing a class action against teams or NFL for these cheating scandals. When you bet you assume a fair game, IMO

Will get as far as the Pacquioa lawsuit

I would have liked him to have gotten 6-10 games. After appeal he'd probably have ended up with 4-6 games.

By only giving him 4 games, now, that probably gets cut to 2 games on appeal. Those will be Week 1 home vs Pittsburgh and week 2 at Buffalo. Having to play w/o Brady for more games would hurt the Patriots more, and isn't that the point of the punishment?

IMHO, the league knows that the team management/ownership is responsible, they just can't prove it. Otherwise, why would they take away draft picks from them and fine them? (Like $1,000,000 hurts them . . .)

I believe this was all done in a big backroom deal. The only ones I feel sorry for are the two equipment guys who are now out of jobs basically when they were only doing what they were told to do by Brady and/or the team. Sucks to be a fall guy!

The big unanswerable question here, Isn't if the balls were deflated below specs for the AFC championship game. It's how many other times did brady/the Patriots do this?
There is no way they woke up the morning of the AFC Championship game and decided to try a different ball on a whim. They've probably been doing it for a long time.